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More on the WTC Disaster (Updated)

Of course this is not game related (we do not expect to be doing any further game coverage today), but with the legit news sites being almost impossible to access at times today, we've been getting loads of requests for more information about what's been going on. Here is the latest as of about 9:00 PM EDT:

  • President Bush addressed the nation 8:30 PM EDT. Here's a wire report: WASHINGTON (AP) - A grim-faced President Bush condemned ghastly attacks in Washington and New York on Tuesday and vowed to "find those responsible and bring them to justice." In the second Oval Office address of his presidency, Bush said the United States would retaliate against ``those behind these evil acts,'' and any country that harbors them.

To recap:

  • In two separate attacks, hijacked planes struck both main towers of the World Trade Center in Manhattan this morning, and both of the "twin towers" subsequently collapsed.
  • A hijacked plane struck the Pentagon in Washington, D.C. and part of it has collapsed as well.
  • A hijacked plane crashed in western Pennsylvania, near Pittsburgh. Reports indicate the hijackers planned to crash this plane into Camp David in Maryland.
  • 47 Story WTC building seven, one of the five (relatively) smaller buildings in the World Trade Center also later collapsed from ancillary damage.
  • The White House, the Pentagon, and the Capitol Building were all evacuated, all domestic flights in the US have been grounded through at least noon tomorrow.
  • Other closings include most federal offices, the stock markets, the Disney theme parks, and the cancellation of today's Major League Baseball schedule. The President's speech announced that all federal agencies will be open for business tomorrow.
  • Broadcasts out of Afghanistan showed evidence of missile attacks and antiaircraft fire, but what connection this has to today's apparent terrorist attacks in the US is not clear at this point. The US has denied involvement in these attacks.
  • In the first hints of any sort at the scope of casualties, the New York City Fire Department has estimated that as many as half of the 400 firefighters dispatched to the scene are missing. CNN has said that 78 Police officers are missing. Also, the death toll from those on the four hijacked planes has been placed at 266. The number of dead and injured at the Pentagon has been widely reported as about 100. No estimates of the number of victims from the World Trade Center have been made.
  • People throughout the United States have are being urged to donate blood to help offset significant shortages in New York and Washington. The American Red Cross in Greater New York or the American Red Cross are places to contact about donating blood or money, or both.
  • Some news sites seem to be back online. Here are some links that have been more reliable: CNN.com; CNET.com; Yahoo; The New York Times; washingtonpost.com; usnews.com; ABCNEWS.com; FOXNews.com; MSNBC; and BBC News Online.

All of our thoughts go out to the victims of these attacks and their families and friends in what must be an incredibly difficult time.

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214. Re: So where now ? Sep 11, 2001, 17:29 JediLuke
 
When we bombed iraik thousands of woman and children were killed,and americans were dancing in the street.

Speak for yourself. I never have and never will "dance in the street" literally or figuratively over the death of anyone, and I'm not the only one. So keep your generalizations to yourself.

~Jedi

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213. Re: To post a famous quote: Sep 11, 2001, 17:28 anon@24.184
 
I completely Agree with you, I'm from manhattan and as these current events occured i was in class watching two of the most beautiful buildings in the world burn and crumble to the ground. Right now NYC is desserted, there are absolutely no civilians on the streets (almost like that airline commercial) and it's scary. I keep getting the feeling that this attack was only the beginning. Please don't fail to realize the seriousness of this tragedy, immediate action must be taken in order to prevent further attacks on our mainland. Granted we haven't been the most peacable people when it comes to the middle east and Palestine but it's time to show those bastards that we're tired of this.....it's time we made them a US colony.  
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212. Re: To post a famous quote: Sep 11, 2001, 17:23 JediLuke
 
Last time some one did this much damage to the US we wound up flattening an entire city with a little thing called an A-Bomb.

I agree that was an ignorant thing to say, but...

And because that was not enough there was a second A-Bomb, just to be sure that this damned thing works, I presume.

No, the second bomb was because Japan didn't surrender after the first. It's not as though Americans commemorate the dropping of the A bomb with celebration. Even if we bring the perpretrators of this horrendous act to justice, I for one will still not celebrate the way the reports from Palestine indicate. That makes me feel sick. My condolences to the families of anyone involved in this unspeakable tragedy. Let us all come together to issue a proper and just response to this act and help prevent this in the future.

~Jedi

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211. Re: To post a famous quote: Sep 11, 2001, 17:22 anon@128.249
 
All I can say is from this point on I don't care if Israel and Palestine kill each other to extinction, we should stay the hell out of middle east unless its business.

So we shouldn't get involved unless our business interests are threatened? What about right and wrong. Not saying our involvement in the Mideast is right or wrong, just business shouldn't be our motivating factor.

BTW, the targets choosen today were highly symbolic. The WTC is the symbol of American capitalism and the Pentagon is the symbol of American military might.
 
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210. Re: Burn em all - not Sep 11, 2001, 17:21 anon@213.123
 
198: Oh, sorry, the rest of the world keeps forgetting that some Americans have a holier than thou attitude over the rest of the world. Since you mention Charity, it's been legal for the IRA to collect donations in the US for over the last 25 years hasn't it? So, in part, some US citizens, and the US government by not condemning it, has been funding a terrorist organisation that carries out random attacks on civilian targets. Get off your high horse.  
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209. Suggestion Sep 11, 2001, 17:16 anon@64.1
 
In the San Francisco Bay Area, a lot of local radio stations are suggesting that if you own a U.S. flag, take it out and fly it proudly.  
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208. Re: To post a famous quote: Sep 11, 2001, 17:07 anon@24.18
 
All I can say is from this point on I don't care if Israel and Palestine kill each other to extinction, we should stay the hell out of middle east unless its business. Being dragged into a Holy war thats already lasted millenia isn't how our people should die. These are thouroughly ignorant self-centered children, albeit insane children with access to weapons.  
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207. 9/11/01: The other date of infamy Sep 11, 2001, 17:06 anon@64.24
 
Today started as a normal day, get up, get dressed, go to college. Along the way the train broke down. Unable to find out why, I shrugged and hopped a bus, somehow thinking this was the start of a bad day.

I live in Cleveland, one of the major air traffic hubs of the midwest. There were reports of a bomb at the airport, and they diverted us. A bomb, I thought. A bad situation but not one that I could do anything about.

Then a passerby mentioned the catastrophe in NYC. I couldn't believe it, I was certain it was some sick joke. The United States of America is and always will be INVINCIBLE. Nothing like that could happen on our soil!

Then I saw a CNN broadcast of those horrible pictures of Flight 11 colliding with the WTC. I was stunned, my legs weak, my mouth agape and aghast. I thought, must be a movie. It wasn't. It wasn't. On this terrible day my world changed. I walked rapidly down the streets to my school, every glance piercing and fearful, searching, seeking for anything out of place, placing one foot in front of the other for twenty blocks.

This is the terror in terrorism. For the first time in my life, I was afraid to be out in the open, not knowing what was to come, not knowing if the nightmare had ended... or just begun.

I wanted to share my thoughts with you. I have good friends in NYC, and though I am agnostic, my prayers go with them today through this crisis. Even though I am far from NYC, that disgusting act rocked me to my very soul, for despite my misgivings about politics and the system... I am an American. The parties responsible must be dealt with harshly, but at the same time, we cannot use this as a justification to rampage unchecked through the Middle East, for that would undermine the very principles of free democracy.

I hope to God that this is the last attack on America.

Oscar
skrux@hotmail.com
 
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206. Flight Simulator to blame? Sep 11, 2001, 17:06 Fillem
 
I absolutely do NOT make light of the situation and all those involved have my deepest sympathies!

I just saw this on the (Dutch) news:
"You can even practice these things [flying into WTC] using a flight simulator. You just type in WTC"
I can see realistic flight simulators being investigated...


 
"Porno laughs are not funny, ok?"
-David Brent-
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205. wow ... so sorry Sep 11, 2001, 17:01 anon@64.230
 
Let me first begin by saying how sorry i am about whats happened. This sort of thing should only happen in the movies. I've a cousin that lives in NYC and he's ok but many, many others are not.

Regarding revenge, could i suggest that the guilty parties be brought up on charges of Crimes Against Humanity in an international court, presided over by an international community of jurrors and judges. It is one thing to be held accountable by your enemy and another altogether by EVERYONE! This i think would minimise, if not eliminate, retaliation by the guilty parties.

Regarding the dancing-in-the-streets by various people, i view them with pity. Their hatred has so blinded them that they cannot see that Americans are people just like everyone else. It is this hatred that must be ultimately fought. It is there that suicide bombers are born. Eliminate the hate and the Bin Ladens will vanish.

Again my deepest regrets go out to all of you who have been hit by this tragedy.


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204. Re: Subject Sep 11, 2001, 16:56 anon@217.136
 
B.S.

there is no justification for this attack. I don't care how awful people think America is. There's no reason for this.
Maybe some wacked out American's did this. Who knows. All I know is that the government will find them and they will pay. As much as we love to hate the federal government, in this issue, I'm behind them and the president.
 
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203. Re: Burn em all - not Sep 11, 2001, 16:56 Hump
 
word...

 
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202. Being Respectful Sep 11, 2001, 16:55 anon@64.1
 
Just my opinion, but I don't think the Quake references (e.g. bots, frags, railguns, etc) are quite appropriate given the severity (and awful reality) of the recent WTC/Pentagon events. Instead, think of ways in which you can help (i.e. donate blood).  
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201. Re: Subject Sep 11, 2001, 16:53 anon@64.222
 
"Reading my earlier post (#170) again, I can see why some of you got a bit of a wrong impression. I am definately not saying that an attack like this would be justified, nor am I saying that anyone deserves it. I was merely pointing out that USA has in the past been quite eager to punish certaing "rogue nations" on questionable grounds, and certainly without sparing the ammo. Now you know how it feels to be in the receiving end - and many of you are already showing the same kind of reactions as the people in those rogue nations."

It's too bad we missed you. Where do you live again?
 
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200. response Sep 11, 2001, 16:53 anon@217.136
 
Let's get Dank and Scud to frag the bastards that did this.
Only camper terrorists could do this. Make me sick.

I'll use the next quad damage I get to send some prayers to the people that suffered and died today.
 
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199. Subject Sep 11, 2001, 16:51 anon@193.167
 
Reading my earlier post (#170) again, I can see why some of you got a bit of a wrong impression. I am definately not saying that an attack like this would be justified, nor am I saying that anyone deserves it. I was merely pointing out that USA has in the past been quite eager to punish certaing "rogue nations" on questionable grounds, and certainly without sparing the ammo. Now you know how it feels to be in the receiving end - and many of you are already showing the same kind of reactions as the people in those rogue nations.  
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198. Re: Burn em all - not Sep 11, 2001, 16:49 anon@216.54
 
About 170

Civilized Nation? What the FUCK Are you TALKING about? We give more than the REST OF THE WORLD x4 to CHARITY! If there is a quake or typhoon or frickin fire who is the first to help? WE ARE!! I say FUCK THEM! CIVILIZED NATION? we frickin STARTED the UN! We frickin DEFENDED the Frickin WORLD for the past century against freaks like Hitler, Mao, Stalin. I think its HIGH TIME that the FREAKING WORLD starts paying attention and STOPS TAKING US FOR GRANTED! We are 40% of the world's GDP! The US dollar props up most of the world's FUCKING ECONOMY! i am SO SICK OF HOLIER THAN THOU lefties and Eurotrash giving me shit about the US! I dont have to wait 6 months to get a GODDAMN WART burned off my ass and it costs me $5 copay! If you don't like it here SHUT UP AND GET THE HELL OUT! we will be much better off for it.
 
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197. Re: repsonse to bombings Sep 11, 2001, 16:49 anon@64.222
 
Amen. Hopefully someone can whip up an Arab Bot to play with.  
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196. repsonse to bombings Sep 11, 2001, 16:46 anon@217.136
 
Once we figure out who did this,
I stand ready with my fellow Quake soldiers to
frag the bastards. A few well placed rockets and grenades, plus some well placed blasts from the Doom Guy's plasma cannon will make them think twice about doing it again.

Actually, the chainsaw might be the most appropriate weapon.

These terrorists are almost as bad as campers.


 
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195. Re: To post a famous quote: Sep 11, 2001, 16:46 anon@217.5
 
"Time for you to do a little bit of research. Moron"

I simply refuse to call anyone names here. Perhaps my explaination was vague. Even if Japan was preparing for an invasion... why kill innocent civilians for it? Do you think nuking Afganistan, or Saudi Arabia (including thousands or millions of civilians) is justified by what happended today? I know myself that I do not like terrorists. Yet killing innocent people for others acts is NOT justified no matter how much revenge you want. It's like the blame people put on games players for that which happened in Columbine. If you were a victim of a lynch mob that wanted vengence for what happened, I'm sure you wouldn't be impressed. It's as simple as that. I am not condemning all Americans, just those that made the descision at the time to kill innocent people at the time.
 
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