Godus Becomes Godus Wars

Godus Wars for Windows, OS X, and Linux is now available in early access on Steam, replacing the original version of Godus, the casual strategy game from Peter Molyneux and 22cans, their game that first gained notoriety for renegging on Kickstarter promises. The new game is a free update for all purchasers of the original. This comes after a long period of silence from the usually communicative developer following a contentious interview with RPS published about a year ago, and Eurogamer interviews Peter about his reaction at the time to being called a "pathological liar" and feeling he had lost people's trust. He tells them he was tempted to retire, something that popped up in a weird Twitter incident the other day, but he explains his ultimate decision to return to the Godus project to try to make things right. There's an update from Peter in a Godus Wars announcement who explains the realization that this project needed to pivot more strongly towards PCs by becoming more of an RTS game:
"We said this simple thing - “Why don't we change Godus into a RTS style game with God-game capabilities and landscape modification, a RTS game with a huge amount of variation and power, the ability to approach each battle in a different way?”

"We sat down and said if we’re going to make an RTS game in Godus and do it right - What are we going to have to do? Yes, we could create battles on Godus landscape and yes the landscape modification could be wonderful, you could create your own landscapes, turrets and use followers strategically - but there were a few things that really got in way. "

"One of those examples, which our Godus PC community had been crying out about for a long time, was the nature that you collected your belief - that didn't really fit within a RTS game. Our aim was to make each battle an intensive 20 minutes - not 2 hours or 10 hours but 20 minutes. So we did the logical thing, we make the collection of belief completely automatic - so the player could concentrate on the troops."
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Feb 9, 2016, 06:11
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Kxmode wrote on Feb 4, 2016, 11:06:
The original comment WAS on point and specifically related to Peter Molyneux's reputation in the industry. My point, since it is so clearly lost, was this: even with his damaged rep I would still trust Peter with my money before I would EVER give Chris another dime.
Most of your posts revolve around your hatred of SC, even in completely unrelated topics like this. It's extremely tedious and I will absolutely call you out on it every time.

Kxmode wrote on Feb 4, 2016, 11:06:
I'm not really surprised by this. I've had the displeasure of encountering people like theyarecomingforyou on the RSI forums and Star Citizen Subreddit. It appears they are on a mission to go around the Internet and bully others into silence for daring to post anything "disparaging" against Cloud Imperium Games, Star Citizen, or Chris Roberts. See, it doesn't work here on Blues News because unlike other sites this site is a bastion of free expression FOR and AGAINST things. Kudos to Stephen Heaslip for keeping it that way.
I have no intention of silencing criticism of the game. In fact I am extremely critical of the game where criticism is due. You, on the otherhand, go around spouting demonstrably untrue bullshit and turning every topic into your own personal rant against the game and its creator.

Here's my post on the RSI forums for those who still consider me a SC zealot:

"No, I'm not happy. It's been two months and a half months since the release of Alpha 2.0 on the PTU and we don't have any new content, ships aside. Now we know that 2.2, which is due this month, also won't have any significant additions. My concern is that we're going to see the same as what happened with AC, which hasn't received any new content—ships aside—since launch 18 months ago - it still has the same two arenas, the same single racing location. I was expecting content rollouts to increase substantially after the release of 2.0.

The Social Module is utterly devoid of functionality. Nyx is way behind schedule, as is subsumption and persistence. We don't have any idea when Star Marine is due, despite being imminent for the past year. The ship skin system was implemented a year ago but only four skins, only for the Aurora, exist. The component system is missing and we desperately need the current holotable to be replaced, as it's not fit for purpose - they should just implement a web-based system with simple drop-down boxes in the meantime. AC has been abandoned, with pirate swarm missing and no word on when multi-crew ships will be supported. Yet progress on ships is advancing rapidly, in large part because they generate revenue for CIG.

CIG has neglected playable content to focus on longer term goals and ship sales. I would like to see CIG prioritise playable content for the game as it exists today. That means regular additions to Crusader; new arenas and racing locations in AC; the release of SM as a priority; the addition of persistence, subsumption and Nyx; new gameplay mechanics (i.e. cargo, mining, etc); the component system and new holotable; the lobby system; reduce the FPS bottleneck created by servers.

CIG should reintroduce the weekly status report and keep users actively informed about each upcoming release. If it's going to take another three months for real progress to be made then tell us, don't keep hinting stringing us along. I backed the game at the beginning when it was due out in 2014 - now it's going to be 2017-18 at the earliest. Delays happen, I accept that, but to make up for the expanded scope of development CIG should focus on getting new content—not just ships—to players ahead of longer term goals."


To accuse me of trying to silence any criticism of the game is patently absurd. I'm just fed up of you trolling Bluesnews with your irrational SC hatred. Perhaps you'd care to apologise for your demonstrably false claims against me?
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."
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Re: Godus Becomes Godus Wars
Feb 4, 2016, 15:03
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SunnyD wrote on Feb 4, 2016, 13:22:
Seems to be a bit of projecting and thread derailment, or at least diversion. Kxmode's post mentioned Chris Roberts certaintly, but no mention was made of Star Citizen, unless I've been asleep and it's been in developement under his capable watch for 7 years?

Mebbe I gotta learn that new english they teach in schools these days. I'd read that paragraph of his and instantly a image of Wing Commander the movie leapt to mind, in fact reminding me that Roberts had been busy doing the Hollyweird thing before SC became his new Shiny.

'Coarse I'm closer to 100yrs old these days than not, so it could be massive neuronal misfirings going off in my brain pan.

God I luv this place. Group hug! (Hey! Who's groping?)


~Finis~

Kxmode's problem with Chris Roberts is down to Star Citizen, I would bet $930 on that. I think Kxmode mentioned the 7 year absence as one reason why he feels SC is in trouble, not because it is specifically a problem its self.
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Feb 4, 2016, 13:22
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Feb 4, 2016, 13:22
 
Seems to be a bit of projecting and thread derailment, or at least diversion. Kxmode's post mentioned Chris Roberts certaintly, but no mention was made of Star Citizen, unless I've been asleep and it's been in developement under his capable watch for 7 years?

Mebbe I gotta learn that new english they teach in schools these days. I'd read that paragraph of his and instantly a image of Wing Commander the movie leapt to mind, in fact reminding me that Roberts had been busy doing the Hollyweird thing before SC became his new Shiny.

'Coarse I'm closer to 100yrs old these days than not, so it could be massive neuronal misfirings going off in my brain pan.

God I luv this place. Group hug! (Hey! Who's groping?)


~Finis~

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Re: Godus Becomes Godus Wars
Feb 4, 2016, 12:39
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Feb 4, 2016, 12:39
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Verno wrote on Feb 4, 2016, 12:04:
Kxmode wrote on Feb 4, 2016, 11:49:
I find it interesting that you have the exact opposite perspective. theyarecoming doesn't want ANYTHING negative spoken about Star Citizen because he's financially backing it and fears project collapse. You don't want to hear ANYTHING about it period because you hate it. "You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't" about sums it up. The long and short is this. Where and when I feel it is appropriate I will continue to use Star Citizen and Chris Roberts for the topic at hand. You're more than welcome to skip my comments if the mere mention of Star Citizen makes you throw up a little.

I don't hate it, you're projecting. I'm just tired of the endless topics, baiting like in this thread and arguments surrounding it. There's really no need or purpose to dragging it into other threads, especially when there are active ones in the side bar already. But since you're determined no problem, I will start running it up the flag pole in the future if I see it instead. Same goes for him.

It's not that the comparison of trust is unreasonable, in my opinion, it's just that Star Citizen is one of several topics which causes more than enough ill feelings in threads that relate to it that I don't want to see it elsewhere and that I personally avoid bringing up outside of directly related threads precisely because it derails them.

I want to talk about games, not soap operas.
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Re: Godus Becomes Godus Wars
Feb 4, 2016, 12:04
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Kxmode wrote on Feb 4, 2016, 11:49:
I find it interesting that you have the exact opposite perspective. theyarecoming doesn't want ANYTHING negative spoken about Star Citizen because he's financially backing it and fears project collapse. You don't want to hear ANYTHING about it period because you hate it. "You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't" about sums it up. The long and short is this. Where and when I feel it is appropriate I will continue to use Star Citizen and Chris Roberts for the topic at hand. You're more than welcome to skip my comments if the mere mention of Star Citizen makes you throw up a little.

I don't hate it, you're projecting. I'm just tired of the endless topics, baiting like in this thread and arguments surrounding it. There's really no need or purpose to dragging it into other threads, especially when there are active ones in the side bar already. But since you're determined no problem, I will start running it up the flag pole in the future if I see it instead. Same goes for him.
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Re: Godus Becomes Godus Wars
Feb 4, 2016, 11:49
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Feb 4, 2016, 11:49
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Verno wrote on Feb 4, 2016, 11:28:
Kxmode wrote on Feb 4, 2016, 11:06:
If you want to look for someone who appears to be "waging a little one man crusade" against "unfavorable" comments then look to theyarecomingforyou.

I don't see theyarecoming outside of Star Citizen threads stumping for the game or something. I also don't see him bullying anyone, what a complete abuse of that word. He engages on that topic because it interests him and limits it to those topics. He's really one sided about it...but not any more than you. I don't really care if you clash with him or which one of you got personal at some point in the past, like many readers here I don't really care about Star Citizen at all and just want the SC diarrhea kept to those threads. Its not like there has been a lack of them.

I find it interesting that you have the exact opposite perspective. theyarecoming doesn't want ANYTHING negative spoken about Star Citizen because he's financially backing it and fears project collapse. You don't want to hear ANYTHING about it period because you hate it. "You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't" about sums it up. The long and short is this. Where and when I feel it is appropriate I will continue to use Star Citizen and Chris Roberts for the topic at hand. You're more than welcome to skip my comments if the mere mention of Star Citizen makes you throw up a little.
"...and in stonks, Fizzy Squeezy Stocklebocks leaped over Droopy Whoopy Bondfluffs, hitting 300-gigglebits to their 150-snorebucks. Meanwhile, in Whimsyland's market, the pancakes reached parity with pogo sticks."
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Re: Godus Becomes Godus Wars
Feb 4, 2016, 11:28
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Feb 4, 2016, 11:28
 
Kxmode wrote on Feb 4, 2016, 11:06:
If you want to look for someone who appears to be "waging a little one man crusade" against "unfavorable" comments then look to theyarecomingforyou.

I don't see theyarecoming outside of Star Citizen threads stumping for the game or something. I also don't see him bullying anyone, what a complete abuse of that word. He engages on that topic because it interests him and limits it to those topics. He's really one sided about it...but not any more than you. I don't really care if you clash with him or which one of you got personal at some point in the past, like many readers here I don't really care about Star Citizen at all and just want the SC diarrhea kept to those threads. Its not like there has been a lack of them.

Getting back on topic, Peter shows at least some introspection and pulled the micro-transactions people were complaining about. I can't say it makes the situation much better but at least they are reading text on the internet. That is a step forward.
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Re: Godus Becomes Godus Wars
Feb 4, 2016, 11:11
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Kxmode wrote on Feb 4, 2016, 11:06:
The original comment WAS on point and specifically related to Peter Molyneux's reputation in the industry. My point, since it is so clearly lost, was this: even with his damaged rep I would still trust Peter with my money before I would EVER give Chris another dime. theyarecomingforyou made it an "issue" beyond the scope of the discussion.

Reading your initial comment, I gotta agree with you. comingforyou is always whining when it comes to SC, based on the numerous quotes...if you speak badly of his malformed retarded baby, he stomps his foot and cries.


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Verno wrote on Feb 4, 2016, 09:23:
How about you just stop derailing other threads that are totally unrelated to that game? You want to wage a little one man crusade then whatever, if you really nothing better to do with your time you have my pity but at least spare the rest of us when we're trying to read about OTHER FUCKING GAMES.

The original comment WAS on point and specifically related to Peter Molyneux's reputation in the industry. My point, since it is so clearly lost, was this: even with his damaged rep I would still trust Peter with my money before I would EVER give Chris another dime. theyarecomingforyou made it an "issue" beyond the scope of the discussion. If you want to look for someone who appears to be "waging a little one man crusade" against "unfavorable" comments then look to theyarecomingforyou.

I'm not really surprised by this. I've had the displeasure of encountering people like theyarecomingforyou on the RSI forums and Star Citizen Subreddit. It appears they are on a mission to go around the Internet and bully others into silence for daring to post anything "disparaging" against Cloud Imperium Games, Star Citizen, or Chris Roberts. See, it doesn't work here on Blues News because unlike other sites this site is a bastion of free expression FOR and AGAINST things. Kudos to Stephen Heaslip for keeping it that way.
"...and in stonks, Fizzy Squeezy Stocklebocks leaped over Droopy Whoopy Bondfluffs, hitting 300-gigglebits to their 150-snorebucks. Meanwhile, in Whimsyland's market, the pancakes reached parity with pogo sticks."
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Feb 4, 2016, 10:56
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At this point since hes admitting that hes just going to troll in unrelated topics I suggest people start reporting his posts when he does it and let the mods sort him out.
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Re: Godus Becomes Godus Wars
Feb 4, 2016, 10:46
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theyarecomingforyou wrote on Feb 4, 2016, 08:32:
Kxmode wrote on Feb 3, 2016, 19:31:
I'll make you a deal. I'll stop talking about Star Citizen when CIG actually releases a working; functional; non-tech demo. In other words a fucking game. Think you can handle that, bruv?
That's not a deal, that's just you moaning about SC at every opportunity for the next couple of years. At least if you're going to moan about it keep it to the relevant topics. Moaning about SC in a Godus Wars topics is just desperate and pathetic.

Are you foaming at the mouth? Are you angry? Good because you have no power here. Deal with it.
"...and in stonks, Fizzy Squeezy Stocklebocks leaped over Droopy Whoopy Bondfluffs, hitting 300-gigglebits to their 150-snorebucks. Meanwhile, in Whimsyland's market, the pancakes reached parity with pogo sticks."
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Kxmode wrote on Feb 3, 2016, 19:31:
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Feb 3, 2016, 14:13:
Kxmode wrote on Feb 3, 2016, 10:31:
I would trust Peter with my money before I would trust Chris Roberts. At least Peter stayed in the gaming industry and didn't head off to the UK equivalent of Hollywood to produce shitty movies for seven years.
Fucking hell mate, it's time to end your one man crusade against Star Citizen. Let go of all that resentment and do something positive with your life. Seriously.

I'll make you a deal. I'll stop talking about Star Citizen when CIG actually releases a working; functional; non-tech demo. In other words a fucking game. Think you can handle that, bruv?

How about you just stop derailing other threads that are totally unrelated to that game? You want to wage a little one man crusade then whatever, if you really nothing better to do with your time you have my pity but at least spare the rest of us when we're trying to read about OTHER FUCKING GAMES.
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Feb 4, 2016, 09:22
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DaHauns wrote on Feb 4, 2016, 06:24:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=615515357

*siiiiigh*

Seriously.
What the F*CK, Peter.

Link no worky
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Kxmode wrote on Feb 3, 2016, 19:31:
I'll make you a deal. I'll stop talking about Star Citizen when CIG actually releases a working; functional; non-tech demo. In other words a fucking game. Think you can handle that, bruv?
That's not a deal, that's just you moaning about SC at every opportunity for the next couple of years. At least if you're going to moan about it keep it to the relevant topics. Moaning about SC in a Godus Wars topics is just desperate and pathetic.
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."
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Redmask wrote on Feb 4, 2016, 05:41:
It has microtransactions LOL. Some fuckin nerve of this guy, re-releasing his unfinished game to circumvent bad reviews.

I give him six months before they pivot again and decide it needs to be a DOTA game and that all combat most be resolved via a collectible card dueling system.
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=615515357

*siiiiigh*

Seriously.
What the F*CK, Peter.

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It has microtransactions LOL. Some fuckin nerve of this guy, re-releasing his unfinished game to circumvent bad reviews.
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After about 2 hours of playing, I have to admit that there is possibly a game here. It's a complete mess right now, but there's an underlying mechanic that I'm enjoying. They need quite a bit of time to refine it. And I really wonder why they released it as early as they did, since the reviews have destroyed it. They must be bankrupt. Nonetheless, hopefully something comes from this. I see a possible fun game many months/years down the road.

If you do try, don't judge it by the first 2 or 3 maps. They're crap. They should combine them in to a single map and call it the tutorial.
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saluk wrote on Feb 3, 2016, 18:35:
One way to recoup an investment. Rebrand, take out the most annoying part of the original game (excessive clicking), and hack in an opposing force.

Clicking is still there, although I'm not really sure you have to do it. You generate the .. uh.. pink stuff (faith?) automatically like in the later versions of Godus, but you can still click trees and rocks to generate a single point. Clicking a rock 10 times, gives you 10 of the pink stuff and destroys the rock. The building I had cost 500. BUT, it does generate automatically if you just want to wait a tiny bit longer.

I'm going to try it again on another computer. I want to see if the multiple applications its running is a thing on my other computer. You'd think that if they planned on relaunching it, that they'd take some time to make sure it was a quality relaunch. Unless they're just grabbing for money (surely that's not it!).

Edit: So yeah, it launches a second application called.. wait for it.. Godus. Basically when you hit "Battle", Godus Wars opens a new full screen application for Godus. I'd ask them WTF, but they're not allowing discussions on the Steam forum. I imagine they don't have much faith in it either.

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Feb 3, 2016, 19:50
 
Kxmode wrote on Feb 3, 2016, 19:37:
eRe4s3r wrote on Feb 3, 2016, 19:02:
Kxmode wrote on Feb 3, 2016, 10:31:
Creston wrote on Feb 3, 2016, 10:12:
TRUST PETER WITH YOUR MONEY!

I would trust Peter with my money before I would trust Chris Roberts. At least Peter stayed in the gaming industry and didn't head off to the UK equivalent of Hollywood to produce shitty movies for seven years.

Patience is that thing that allows you to wait and see. We'll see what happens with SC soon enough, meanwhile we already saw what happened with Godus... which is failed project by any definition.

Patience allowed me to put my money in around January 2013 and WAIT until July 2015. Nothing happening, forced a refund.

Well you put in a LOT of money I didn't so my patience is exponentially bigger ^^ Also the PTU is "playable" ... but in alpha

Heck I have 3 KS projects funded (including SC) that are still way out

Bloodstained - Ritual of the Night
Star Citizen (pledged 25.10.2012 !)
MAIA

My patience for a project is pretty big as long as it trudges along.
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