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Re: reading is funduhmental
Jan 10, 2016, 18:32
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Re: reading is funduhmental Jan 10, 2016, 18:32
Jan 10, 2016, 18:32
 
RedEye9 wrote on Jan 9, 2016, 20:27:
Dacron, don't jump on the Hitler bandwagon, it makes you seem ignorant and I know you not. And if you had bothered to look at the article, it had groups of sentences that made things called paragraphs. neat how that works huh.

I'm still waiting for you to explain how I was wrong saying a comparison to censorship/fanaticism under hitler/nazis is valid, when the comparison is accurate.

You were the only one to mention killing. And You equate comparisons to the nazis/hitler to supporting them. So go toss yourself for telling me I'm on the hitler band wagon because you didn't read it properly. I try to justify Bubs comment and you equate that to nazi genocide, hitler band wagon jumper, who didn't read the article?

When your reply to valid comparison about censorship is "Hitler was responsible for a World War and millions of deaths it all makes sense" then you need to grow up. The two topics aren't related yet you act like people support genocide if they compare documented facts that the nazis did.

Way to miss the point entirely, again.

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reading is funduhmental
Jan 9, 2016, 20:27
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reading is funduhmental Jan 9, 2016, 20:27
Jan 9, 2016, 20:27
 
Dacron, don't jump on the Hitler bandwagon, it makes you seem ignorant and I know you not. And if you had bothered to look at the article, it had groups of sentences that made things called paragraphs. neat how that works huh.
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Re: etc.
Jan 9, 2016, 19:58
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Jan 9, 2016, 19:58
 
RedEye9 wrote on Jan 9, 2016, 17:19:
Dacron wrote on Jan 9, 2016, 13:34:
Creston wrote on Jan 9, 2016, 11:57:
Man, it took a whole 23 posts for someone to mention Hitler.

To be fair when dealing with censorship and fanaticism it kind of goes together.

And when you consider Hitler was responsible for a World War and millions of deaths it all makes sense. not


Wow, way to miss the point entirely. Thanks for coming out unless you'd like to try again.

Maybe try reading it in full (c'mon it was only 1 sentence.). And notice I didn't compare the nazis genocide, but the censorship and blind following it created.
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Re: etc.
Jan 9, 2016, 17:19
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Jan 9, 2016, 17:19
 
Dacron wrote on Jan 9, 2016, 13:34:
Creston wrote on Jan 9, 2016, 11:57:
Man, it took a whole 23 posts for someone to mention Hitler.

To be fair when dealing with censorship and fanaticism it kind of goes together.

And when you consider Hitler was responsible for a World War and millions of deaths it all makes sense. not
"I expect death to be nothingness and by removing from me all possible fears of death, I am thankful to atheism." Isaac Asimov
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Jan 9, 2016, 13:34
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Jan 9, 2016, 13:34
 
Creston wrote on Jan 9, 2016, 11:57:
Man, it took a whole 23 posts for someone to mention Hitler.

To be fair when dealing with censorship and fanaticism it kind of goes together.
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Jan 9, 2016, 12:09
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Jan 9, 2016, 12:09
 
Creston wrote on Jan 9, 2016, 11:57:
Man, it took a whole 23 posts for someone to mention Hitler.
Yeah, but post #5 implied it with "Brown Shirt". lol
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Re: etc.
Jan 9, 2016, 11:57
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Jan 9, 2016, 11:57
 
Man, it took a whole 23 posts for someone to mention Hitler.
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Jan 9, 2016, 11:49
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Jan 9, 2016, 11:49
 
descender wrote on Jan 9, 2016, 10:59:
Come on, show of hands... who is actually surprised that CJ got banned from a forum because of the way he talks to people.

Rigging a vote is not fair.
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Re: etc.
Jan 9, 2016, 10:59
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Jan 9, 2016, 10:59
 
Come on, show of hands... who is actually surprised that CJ got banned from a forum because of the way he talks to people.
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Re: etc. Star Citizen Cult
Jan 9, 2016, 09:02
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Re: etc. Star Citizen Cult Jan 9, 2016, 09:02
Jan 9, 2016, 09:02
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When I was a kid, I could not understand how Germany fell for Hitler and his program.

Now when I see how easily some people fall for similar scam/cults like CR's long con it makes perfect sense.
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Jan 9, 2016, 01:00
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CJ_Parker wrote on Jan 8, 2016, 20:06:
How is "white knight" an insult? All I posted was something like "good to see the white knights have arrived to save the day" or something harmless like that and *whammo* temp ban from the forums for 48 hours or whatever it was.

What does white knight mean if it's not an insult? Why did you use that phrase?
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Re: Corporate Espionage
Jan 9, 2016, 00:41
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Re: Corporate Espionage Jan 9, 2016, 00:41
Jan 9, 2016, 00:41
 
BIGtrouble77 wrote on Jan 9, 2016, 00:39:
The Raven wrote on Jan 8, 2016, 12:05:
They are accusing a customer of corporate espionage? For talking to another (former) customer? On twitter?

I don't give a crap what they talked about, or how much they hate some of their customers, that's not the definition of corporate espionage.

I think some backing levels allow you to take part in the actual game design. I don't know if this guy was a part of that, but it sounds like he revealed some info that was supposed to be confidential. The TOS for that backing level may have some kind of "non compete" clause that prevents them from sharing said information. I have no idea if this is the case, but that's possibly where "corporate espionage" came from.
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Re: Corporate Espionage
Jan 9, 2016, 00:39
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The Raven wrote on Jan 8, 2016, 12:05:
They are accusing a customer of corporate espionage? For talking to another (former) customer? On twitter?

I don't give a crap what they talked about, or how much they hate some of their customers, that's not the definition of corporate espionage.

I think some backing levels allow you to take part in the actual game design. I don't know if this guy was a part of that, but it sounds like he revealed some info that was supposed to be confidential. The TOS for that backing level may have some kind of "non compete" clause that prevents them from sharing said information. I have no idea if this is the case, but that's possibly where "corporate espionage" came from.
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Re: etc.
Jan 8, 2016, 22:18
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Quboid wrote on Jan 8, 2016, 19:24:
Flatline wrote on Jan 8, 2016, 18:31:
descender wrote on Jan 8, 2016, 14:59:
I'm sure he was posting completely reasonable and researched things and not just piling on the trollwagon and blaming CIG for spending the money on hookers and blow. God knows those threads here are always so rational and mild-mannered.

Unless we can see what he actually posted and was banned for... I don't believe a word of this crap. He probably deserved to be banned... and they still let him play the game. He just can't be part of a community he didn't want to be a part of anyway.

Let me guess, you're active on the SC forums and don't want to be banned...

The off-site "espionage" stuff is nonsense but people who get banned tend to complain about it being unfair and I really don't buy it. Particularly given how much nonsense Star Citizen gets slung its way, and I say that as someone who thinks SC is a train-wreak and who wouldn't put his money anywhere near it.

I can easily believe that their moderators are overly partisan given how passionate some people get about Star Citizen but it's a commercial operation and if you walk into a shop and endlessly complain loudly (or insult other customers, CJ) you should probably expect security to ask you to leave even if you're a customer.

From what the article says, this appears to have been a ban for off-site activity. I mean the guy posted communication from CIG confirming that. Then they decided, after some bad press, to start telling him "Oh well, maybe that wasn't the reason, but I can't tell you what that reason was."
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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Re: etc.
Jan 8, 2016, 20:06
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Jan 8, 2016, 20:06
 
Quboid wrote on Jan 8, 2016, 19:24:
I can easily believe that their moderators are overly partisan given how passionate some people get about Star Citizen but it's a commercial operation and if you walk into a shop and endlessly complain loudly (or insult other customers, CJ) you should probably expect security to ask you to leave even if you're a customer.

How is "white knight" an insult? All I posted was something like "good to see the white knights have arrived to save the day" or something harmless like that and *whammo* temp ban from the forums for 48 hours or whatever it was.

Then after my ban was lifted, a couple of days later I came across a thread where a subscriber cultist posted something like "the haters are fucking morons". I don't remember the exact insult but I know 100% that there was an f-bomb involved (he could have also said fuckwads, fuckwits... I don't remember). He was generally very aggressive in his replies to people in that thread. This wasn't the only insult. It was only the most offensive one.
So I reported the post and bookmarked the guy's profile to check back for the next few days whether he would be put on probation.
Bingo. You guessed right. Absolutely nothing happened to the guy and not even his posts got deleted. Nothing. Zilch. Nada.
Apparently cultists and subscribers have special privileges when it comes to offending other posters.

Anyone who is a regular to CIG forums knows that's how they run things over there. The moderators are the most hardcore of the cultists and immediately get a super-stiffy when someone dares as much as sneeze in the general direction of SC or CIG.
I have all but stopped posting there because what's the point if all you're allowed to post is "wow", "thanks" and "good job"? And I do not want to be permabanned. If you get temp banned a few times in a row for harmless stuff you will get sacked eventually.

Oh well, their moderation policies are costing them real money in my case. It has only reinforced my intention to never give a dime to these fucktards ever again (except for finished playable content like a new episode of S42 when it's actually out and patched and discounted but screw pledging or advance payments for anything).
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Jan 8, 2016, 19:24
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Flatline wrote on Jan 8, 2016, 18:31:
descender wrote on Jan 8, 2016, 14:59:
I'm sure he was posting completely reasonable and researched things and not just piling on the trollwagon and blaming CIG for spending the money on hookers and blow. God knows those threads here are always so rational and mild-mannered.

Unless we can see what he actually posted and was banned for... I don't believe a word of this crap. He probably deserved to be banned... and they still let him play the game. He just can't be part of a community he didn't want to be a part of anyway.

Let me guess, you're active on the SC forums and don't want to be banned...

The off-site "espionage" stuff is nonsense but people who get banned tend to complain about it being unfair and I really don't buy it. Particularly given how much nonsense Star Citizen gets slung its way, and I say that as someone who thinks SC is a train-wreak and who wouldn't put his money anywhere near it.

I can easily believe that their moderators are overly partisan given how passionate some people get about Star Citizen but it's a commercial operation and if you walk into a shop and endlessly complain loudly (or insult other customers, CJ) you should probably expect security to ask you to leave even if you're a customer.
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Jan 8, 2016, 18:31
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Jan 8, 2016, 18:31
 
descender wrote on Jan 8, 2016, 14:59:
I'm sure he was posting completely reasonable and researched things and not just piling on the trollwagon and blaming CIG for spending the money on hookers and blow. God knows those threads here are always so rational and mild-mannered.

Unless we can see what he actually posted and was banned for... I don't believe a word of this crap. He probably deserved to be banned... and they still let him play the game. He just can't be part of a community he didn't want to be a part of anyway.

Let me guess, you're active on the SC forums and don't want to be banned...
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Jan 8, 2016, 17:03
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Jan 8, 2016, 17:03
 
Of course all the rabid fanboys will say it's totally deserved. The way they freak out over the smallest criticism of Roberts and this project borders on religious extremism.
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Jan 8, 2016, 15:03
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Verno wrote on Jan 8, 2016, 14:18:
"Started to associate with The Something Awful Forums including such antagonists as Derek Smart". Hahaha what the fuck ever. I guess she doesn't remember who came up with the Desktop Commander bit.

It sounds more like these guys just can't handle criticism, there are a bunch of Star Citizen backers on SA and like here there are a bunch of people critical of the project too. What a dumb comment. "Disparage the Star Citizen" yeah how dare anyone disparage the almighty Star Citizen Rolleyes

Very true. At the official forums they opened a "Concern" subforum for critical posts which is effectively a trash can. Everything that is not "Thank you CIG" or "You guys are so awesome" gets either deleted immediately, locked or moved to the trash forum.
They are not interested in criticism. Critics get silenced immediately, either through official means (moderators) or they are shouted down by the rabid cultist white knights.

I have gotten temp bans myself for completely ridiculous crap like simply stating that the white knights have appeared in a thread. The reasoning for the ban was that you are not allowed to demean an entire group of backers by calling them "white knight".
But guess what happens if someone calls people "haters" or black knights? Right. Nothing, of course. "Demeaning an entire group of backers" is only bad if it is directed against the cult.
CIG are complete NAZIs about their forums and community.
Fuck those guys, especially Lead Moderator (or whatever the fuck his official title is these days) Toast and his cronies. Bunch of assholes.
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Jan 8, 2016, 14:59
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Jan 8, 2016, 14:59
 
I'm sure he was posting completely reasonable and researched things and not just piling on the trollwagon and blaming CIG for spending the money on hookers and blow. God knows those threads here are always so rational and mild-mannered.

Unless we can see what he actually posted and was banned for... I don't believe a word of this crap. He probably deserved to be banned... and they still let him play the game. He just can't be part of a community he didn't want to be a part of anyway.
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