dsmart wrote on Oct 4, 2015, 13:58:Beamer wrote on Oct 4, 2015, 12:12:
I'm less concerned about the sources and more irked (and that's the right word) that someone that fought for "ethics in journalism" didn't disclose all her tweets with Derek prior to this, considering that's 95% of what's on Deepfreeze.
Disclose their Tweets? Are you serious right now? Don't make me laugh.
In any case, Derek has been picking battles with Roberts for decades.
In any case, Derek has been picking battles with Roberts for decades.
BadIronTree wrote on Oct 4, 2015, 08:03:
Other news site got offered the same story from DS but the new girl in Escapist took his bate ...
BadIronTree wrote on Oct 4, 2015, 08:03:
Their credibility is damaged by the poor "investigation" of their Author
and btw DS admitted he was behind it
http://imgur.com/rxwsR3D
DS how many did you spam ?
Beamer wrote on Oct 4, 2015, 12:12:
I'm less concerned about the sources and more irked (and that's the right word) that someone that fought for "ethics in journalism" didn't disclose all her tweets with Derek prior to this, considering that's 95% of what's on Deepfreeze.
In any case, Derek has been picking battles with Roberts for decades.
We have since been advised by several reputable gaming publications that they have been offered these stories, but refrained from pursuing them because "there was no hard evidence and not enough sources." This indicates that these fabricated stories had been collected and were shopped around by a common source to find somebody who could be fooled into publishing them. It would explain the haste with which you wanted "to go to print" - you may have been sold a load of goods that otherwise another publication would get the privilege to break this "scoop".
dsmart wrote on Oct 3, 2015, 18:43:UPDATE
Forum post debunking the Glassdoor reviews
How Escapist vetted sources
Escapist podcast. You should listen to all of it.
then you verified a company an unidentified employee by examining his "company ID card with the name blocked out." You might be interested to know that CIG does not issue any company ID cards at any of its studios!photo1
Luke wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 17:30:jdreyer wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 16:08:Desalus wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 12:04:harlock wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 11:28:
if the environment was truly healthy there would be no slander, and there would be no rebuttal even if there was an attempt - the whole thing would smell different
this reeks of desperation
To the white knights this whole thing is one big conspiracy theory orchestrated by Derek Smart. I just don't understand how you cannot see that something is amiss at CIG. After four years of development they have so very little to show for it. No efficiently run team takes that long to produce so little. Doesn't that just scream mismanagement?
Exactly, we don't need DS to tell us something is wrong. The numbers are just not adding up. Three years spent, and a few demos to show for it.
Exactly, we don't need DS to tell us something is wrong.
Ohh is it soooo hard to say : you were right DS ,
Julio wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 18:38:Desalus wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 12:04:
To the white knights this whole thing is one big conspiracy theory orchestrated by Derek Smart.
It's not like Derek Smart was the first one to think this wasn't passing the sniff test. He did back it after all, when plenty of others knew it had 'potential scam' written all over it.
Desalus wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 12:04:
To the white knights this whole thing is one big conspiracy theory orchestrated by Derek Smart.
jdreyer wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 16:08:Desalus wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 12:04:harlock wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 11:28:
if the environment was truly healthy there would be no slander, and there would be no rebuttal even if there was an attempt - the whole thing would smell different
this reeks of desperation
To the white knights this whole thing is one big conspiracy theory orchestrated by Derek Smart. I just don't understand how you cannot see that something is amiss at CIG. After four years of development they have so very little to show for it. No efficiently run team takes that long to produce so little. Doesn't that just scream mismanagement?
Exactly, we don't need DS to tell us something is wrong. The numbers are just not adding up. Three years spent, and a few demos to show for it.
descender wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 16:18:
Wild speculation in the public sphere without facts is dishonest and reprehensible.
Desalus wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 13:16:
For a start, Chris probably shouldn't have started promising the world as donations increased. Focusing solely on the originally planned game would probably have been a good start as well. After being gone from the industry for 12 years I would think a smarter plan for Chris would have been to start small, release that game, and then move on to a more ambitious iteration. I'm guessing it's not very easy being gone for that long, building up a huge team in such a short period of time, trying to coordinate from multiple worldwide office locations, and develop a complex and very ambitious game. Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.
jdreyer wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 16:14:JoeNapalm wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 12:21:
I agree the whole thing stinks. But I also still believe in "innocent until proven guilty"...I'd rather see SC succeed or fail on its own merits than have a bunch of unverifiable accusations from infamous trolls tear it down.
It's a dark day on the internet when people say "I have faith in Derek Smart!" What has he ever done to earn that?
-Jn-
It's innocent until proven guilty, but shouldn't we also be saying: things aren't adding up, let's investigate.
shouldn't we also be saying: things aren't adding up, let's investigate.
jdreyer wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 16:08:Desalus wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 12:04:harlock wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 11:28:
if the environment was truly healthy there would be no slander, and there would be no rebuttal even if there was an attempt - the whole thing would smell different
this reeks of desperation
To the white knights this whole thing is one big conspiracy theory orchestrated by Derek Smart. I just don't understand how you cannot see that something is amiss at CIG. After four years of development they have so very little to show for it. No efficiently run team takes that long to produce so little. Doesn't that just scream mismanagement?
Exactly, we don't need DS to tell us something is wrong. The numbers are just not adding up. Three years spent, and a few demos to show for it.
JoeNapalm wrote on Oct 2, 2015, 12:21:
I agree the whole thing stinks. But I also still believe in "innocent until proven guilty"...I'd rather see SC succeed or fail on its own merits than have a bunch of unverifiable accusations from infamous trolls tear it down.
It's a dark day on the internet when people say "I have faith in Derek Smart!" What has he ever done to earn that?
-Jn-