ith proprietary NeoG engines, the starliner allows for fuel-efficient duration travel. A pair of remote-operated turrets allow for a good defense, and multiple decks can support everything from first class lounges to additional cargo capacity. Whether it’s the centerpiece of a private spaceline or part of a larger system of passenger transports, the Genesis can be used for a variety of support roles.
jdreyer wrote on Jul 6, 2015, 14:10:
If the starliner was a stretch goal, that just means it will be in game, not that everyone will get one.
Flatline wrote on Jul 6, 2015, 13:27:Quboid wrote on Jul 6, 2015, 10:38:theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jul 6, 2015, 10:23:
nobody was forced to pledge money
Nobody has been literally forced, but do you mean that everybody knew what they were getting into? If I had pledged for the initial vision, I would feel ripped off. An in-development game turning bad is the inherent risk but there have been intentional decisions to change the nature of the project and to increase the scope of the project which has led to delays, and which IMHO have significantly increased the risk of it turning bad.
I *Do* feel ripped off. I signed up for a completely different game than is being delivered.
The game that is being delivered is not the space sim going back to Wing Commander with WW2 fighter style physics that I backed.
Also, Bluesnews ate my comment last night, but I'd like to comment that this Genesis Starliner was a stretch goal (the 62 million point I believe).
So we've reached Inception levels of marketing. You now spend money on SC to achieve stretch goals (you know, additional content added "for free" if funding hits a certain point) that they now are going to charge you for. I guess so that they can reach further stretch goals that they can charge you for.
And before the SC Cult jumps on me, replace the ship with anything like... the FPS module (which was also a stretch goal) and you'll start to see how bullshit that is.
It's actually beautiful marketing if you're cynical enough.
nin wrote on Jul 6, 2015, 13:30:Flatline wrote on Jul 6, 2015, 13:27:Quboid wrote on Jul 6, 2015, 10:38:theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jul 6, 2015, 10:23:
nobody was forced to pledge money
Nobody has been literally forced, but do you mean that everybody knew what they were getting into? If I had pledged for the initial vision, I would feel ripped off. An in-development game turning bad is the inherent risk but there have been intentional decisions to change the nature of the project and to increase the scope of the project which has led to delays, and which IMHO have significantly increased the risk of it turning bad.
I *Do* feel ripped off. I signed up for a completely different game than is being delivered.
The game that is being delivered is not the space sim going back to Wing Commander with WW2 fighter style physics that I backed.
I'm in the same boat. The revisionist history from fanboys is disgusting.
Flatline wrote on Jul 6, 2015, 13:27:Quboid wrote on Jul 6, 2015, 10:38:theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jul 6, 2015, 10:23:
nobody was forced to pledge money
Nobody has been literally forced, but do you mean that everybody knew what they were getting into? If I had pledged for the initial vision, I would feel ripped off. An in-development game turning bad is the inherent risk but there have been intentional decisions to change the nature of the project and to increase the scope of the project which has led to delays, and which IMHO have significantly increased the risk of it turning bad.
I *Do* feel ripped off. I signed up for a completely different game than is being delivered.
The game that is being delivered is not the space sim going back to Wing Commander with WW2 fighter style physics that I backed.
Quboid wrote on Jul 6, 2015, 10:38:theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jul 6, 2015, 10:23:
nobody was forced to pledge money
Nobody has been literally forced, but do you mean that everybody knew what they were getting into? If I had pledged for the initial vision, I would feel ripped off. An in-development game turning bad is the inherent risk but there have been intentional decisions to change the nature of the project and to increase the scope of the project which has led to delays, and which IMHO have significantly increased the risk of it turning bad.
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jul 6, 2015, 10:23:Verno wrote on Jul 6, 2015, 10:14:Fair enough, but nobody was forced to pledge money.
I'm still not convinced its going to be made with this model either but I'm an optimist and willing to wait
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jul 6, 2015, 10:23:
nobody was forced to pledge money
Verno wrote on Jul 6, 2015, 10:14:Fair enough, but nobody was forced to pledge money. It's perfectly reasonable to wait for it to be completed before deciding whether it is worth paying for.
I'm still not convinced its going to be made with this model either but I'm an optimist and willing to wait
jdreyer wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 23:05:This. The game literally wouldn't have been made without this funding model.
The thing is, they're not paying for just any AAA game. They're paying for an AAA game that used to be its own genre, but publishers decided to stop making 15 years ago (with maybe one or two exceptions). And that game is being headed by the founder of the genre. While I only spent the minimum, I see why people with disposable incomes are trying to revive one last hurrah from a dead genre.
Kosumo wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 18:05:jdreyer wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 12:12:Kosumo wrote on Jul 2, 2015, 16:56:
At no stage would have spending $1500 on this game been a good idea, even if it was finished and lived up to the dream.
And yet people routinely spend $1500 or more to upgrade their PCs, often to play just a single game better. And people spend a lot more than that on a lot of other hobbies that deliver many fewer hours of enjoyment.
Yes, people do spend that on upgrading/building a PC - that what it cost for PC parts and the like ($600 <-> $2000).
Spending $1500 on golf clubs is about what they may cost (anit bought any in ~20 years)
PC computer games cost between free (free to play) up to about $100 for special collector editions. PC games do not cost around $1500 ever. So what I am saying is that people who buy golf clubs for $22500 or upgrade their PC for $9000 to $30000 dollars may want to think twice before they do that.
If new AAA PC games are $60 then people are paying 25 times that for a game that is far away form even being finished, let alone good.
Do you understand that? (I'm talking apples to apples not apples to restaurant meal.)
I get what you are saying in that it's all relitave but I think people should keep in mind we are talking about people paying 25 times the price of an item. It's crazy shit.
jdreyer wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 12:12:Kosumo wrote on Jul 2, 2015, 16:56:
At no stage would have spending $1500 on this game been a good idea, even if it was finished and lived up to the dream.
And yet people routinely spend $1500 or more to upgrade their PCs, often to play just a single game better. And people spend a lot more than that on a lot of other hobbies that deliver many fewer hours of enjoyment.
dsmart wrote on Jul 5, 2015, 07:20:
Yeah. Thing is, I come here from time to time. I stopped posting as I used to do regularly, because being attacked consistently by ass-clowns is not something that's fun anymore. I'm too old for that shit, you know?
Kosumo wrote on Jul 2, 2015, 16:56:
At no stage would have spending $1500 on this game been a good idea, even if it was finished and lived up to the dream.
dsmart wrote on Jul 4, 2015, 18:49
And yeah, I'm older, and wiser now. I think. :
Rigs wrote on Jul 3, 2015, 07:28:nin wrote on Jul 3, 2015, 04:11:Rigs wrote on Jul 3, 2015, 02:42:Krowen wrote on Jul 3, 2015, 01:54:crypto wrote on Jul 3, 2015, 00:13:
So what happened?... did you get into an accident that resulted in some brain damage? You went from "smart financial decisions" to star shityzen and amiibo purchases. Your talking either total bullshit or seriously messed up; just saying.
I read your shitty post and it gave me brain damage, that's what happened. You probably dumped double what I've spent there in completely inconsequential crap but I don't notice you rushing to list your own hobbies or tendencies. Sack up.
I'm beginning to think Krov ven is trolling us and really is both, just split personalities...both alcoholic stepdads...
=-Rigs-=
Blue seemingly confirmed the other day they were two separate people...I'd like to hope that.
Yes, I know, but lately I'm starting to wonder... *gazes off in the distance*
=-Rigs-=
dsmart wrote on Jul 4, 2015, 12:14:
Just gonna leave this here. It's a long read. Enjoy
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