Out of the Blue

Tonight is the Academy Awards. Since I don't generally see movies until they come directly into the BlueTower, and I can only really have an opinion on what I've seen. Therefore I have no choice but to predict The Grand Budapest Hotel will sweep every category, including the ones where it isn't nominated. Congrats in advance to Wes Anderson for this unprecedented feat.

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Re: Out of the Blue
Feb 23, 2015, 16:34
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Re: Out of the Blue Feb 23, 2015, 16:34
Feb 23, 2015, 16:34
 
Agent.X7 wrote on Feb 23, 2015, 16:05:
nin wrote on Feb 23, 2015, 09:15:
Agent.X7 wrote on Feb 23, 2015, 04:38:
beremot wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 15:06:
Cutter wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 13:57:
And AS will obviously have to win something won't it? In spite of it being the worst kind of propaganda even liberal Hollywood still has to kowtow the MIIC. Can't be seen questioning that sort thing or yoi'll be branded as an enemy of 'Murica!

Or ... maybe "liberal" Hollywood isn't quite as liberal on some things as you seem to think it is? Particularly American "exceptionalism" and the American military?

Haven't seen AS but I'm curious to see how his death is covered. I thought Kyle's murder at a gun range was a bizarre example of poetic justice. The snake eating its own tail. Live by the sword ... die by the sword.

Yeah, helping out fellow vets who have PTSD and winding up getting killed by one. Such justice. Fuck his wife and kid too, right? There aren't words to describe the kind of person I think you are.

Don't feed than, man!


Sorry, won't happen again. He's safely on the ignore list with the other trolls. (Even Cutter isn't there, so you know I'm pretty tolerant usually.)

Call me a troll all you want. Some people can't take having their most deeply-held beliefs challenged in any way shape or form. They feel safer that way.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Feb 23, 2015, 16:05
34.
Re: Out of the Blue Feb 23, 2015, 16:05
Feb 23, 2015, 16:05
 
nin wrote on Feb 23, 2015, 09:15:
Agent.X7 wrote on Feb 23, 2015, 04:38:
beremot wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 15:06:
Cutter wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 13:57:
And AS will obviously have to win something won't it? In spite of it being the worst kind of propaganda even liberal Hollywood still has to kowtow the MIIC. Can't be seen questioning that sort thing or yoi'll be branded as an enemy of 'Murica!

Or ... maybe "liberal" Hollywood isn't quite as liberal on some things as you seem to think it is? Particularly American "exceptionalism" and the American military?

Haven't seen AS but I'm curious to see how his death is covered. I thought Kyle's murder at a gun range was a bizarre example of poetic justice. The snake eating its own tail. Live by the sword ... die by the sword.

Yeah, helping out fellow vets who have PTSD and winding up getting killed by one. Such justice. Fuck his wife and kid too, right? There aren't words to describe the kind of person I think you are.

Don't feed than, man!


Sorry, won't happen again. He's safely on the ignore list with the other trolls. (Even Cutter isn't there, so you know I'm pretty tolerant usually.)
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Re: Out of the Blue
Feb 23, 2015, 12:30
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Re: Out of the Blue Feb 23, 2015, 12:30
Feb 23, 2015, 12:30
 
Agent.X7 wrote on Feb 23, 2015, 04:38:
Fuck his wife and kid too, right?

No. Dead fucking wrong. I would feel bad for ANY young kid or spouse who lost a loved one, no matter who they were. Same way I'd feel bad for, say, the young children of Saddam Hussein, assuming he had any. Not their fault their dad was a sociopath. Doesn't mean the sociopath didn't deserve his fate though.

Agent.X7 wrote on Feb 23, 2015, 04:38:
There aren't words to describe the kind of person I think you are.

Tell you what. Let's try a little game. Let's test your obviously deeply held "morality." Let's reverse the nationalities of everyone involved. You with me? Instead of George Bush invading Iraq under the false pretense that it was somehow a threat to the U.S. (which it wasn't) and that it had WMDs (which it didn't.) Let's say Saddam Hussein decides to invade the U.S. because it was a threat to Iraq (which it was) and because it had WMDs (which it does). Let's pretend that Iraq has an overwhelming military advantage over the U.S., instead of the other way around.

Some brave American soldiers and civilians decide to defend their homeland against the foreign invaders and put up an armed resistance. An Iraqi sniper slaughters over 150 of them. Including a young American boy who tries to throw a grenade at the Iraqi invaders, and then his mother, when she tries to complete the act of resistance her son died for.

When asked if he feels bad about killing so many Americans, the Iraq sniper says no, fuck them, they're "savages."

Then that same Iraq sniper goes home and is the source of much propaganda. He is proclaimed a national hero, proof of how brave and admirable the Iraqi military fighting force is, etc etc.

Then he ends up getting killed by another Iraqi veteran, after providing the obviously unstable man with a loaded weapon.

Are you going to weep your bitter tears for that Iraqi sniper, the killer of so many American resistors?

Really?

Then I don't have the words, to describe the kind of person you are.


This comment was edited on Feb 24, 2015, 11:50.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Feb 23, 2015, 09:15
nin
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Re: Out of the Blue Feb 23, 2015, 09:15
Feb 23, 2015, 09:15
nin
 
Agent.X7 wrote on Feb 23, 2015, 04:38:
beremot wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 15:06:
Cutter wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 13:57:
And AS will obviously have to win something won't it? In spite of it being the worst kind of propaganda even liberal Hollywood still has to kowtow the MIIC. Can't be seen questioning that sort thing or yoi'll be branded as an enemy of 'Murica!

Or ... maybe "liberal" Hollywood isn't quite as liberal on some things as you seem to think it is? Particularly American "exceptionalism" and the American military?

Haven't seen AS but I'm curious to see how his death is covered. I thought Kyle's murder at a gun range was a bizarre example of poetic justice. The snake eating its own tail. Live by the sword ... die by the sword.

Yeah, helping out fellow vets who have PTSD and winding up getting killed by one. Such justice. Fuck his wife and kid too, right? There aren't words to describe the kind of person I think you are.

Don't feed than, man!

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"I read on Kotaku that it's better than Civ 5 with the Brave New World Expansion Pack"
Feb 23, 2015, 09:01
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"I read on Kotaku that it's better than Civ 5 with the Brave New World Expansion Pack" Feb 23, 2015, 09:01
Feb 23, 2015, 09:01
 
InBlack wrote on Feb 23, 2015, 02:31:
harlock wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 21:20:
anybody watching that show Black Sails?

wow man,.. wow

Ive seen the first season, loved it. Instense shit. Definitely planning on picking up the entire second season once its released.

season 2 takes it to a whole other level and then some... it fucking leveled up for sure

it builds to a genuinely unexpected twist, i wont say anymore but yeh, great work
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Feb 23, 2015, 08:41
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Feb 23, 2015, 08:41
 
1badmf wrote on Feb 23, 2015, 06:03:
yeah that really was an inhuman comment. dude sounds like a stereotypical SJW - lashing out at the du jour cause without once considering what the actual truth is.

Incidentally there is a line in the movie where his wife cries and implores Kyle to return to his family, that she needs him to "be human again". From what Ive read of his autobiography the guy had some serious issues, even though he was pretty much portrayed as an all-american-hero in the film, his autobiography is unabashedly self-promoting and narcisisstic in the extreme.

I actually liked Clint's film even though he portrays Kyle as a straight up naive hero who loves his country more than he loves his wife or his family, precisely because it doesnt try to tell any version of the truth other than the one that Kyle tried to paint of himself.

A sociopath? A hero? We will never really know, the point Im trying to make is that truth is too often in the eye of the beholder.

This comment was edited on Feb 23, 2015, 08:54.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Feb 23, 2015, 07:23
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Feb 23, 2015, 07:23
 
Well when you get your news and moral messaging from tumblr..
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Feb 23, 2015, 06:03
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yeah that really was an inhuman comment. dude sounds like a stereotypical SJW - lashing out at the du jour cause without once considering what the actual truth is.
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Feb 23, 2015, 04:38
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Feb 23, 2015, 04:38
 
beremot wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 15:06:
Cutter wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 13:57:
And AS will obviously have to win something won't it? In spite of it being the worst kind of propaganda even liberal Hollywood still has to kowtow the MIIC. Can't be seen questioning that sort thing or yoi'll be branded as an enemy of 'Murica!

Or ... maybe "liberal" Hollywood isn't quite as liberal on some things as you seem to think it is? Particularly American "exceptionalism" and the American military?

Haven't seen AS but I'm curious to see how his death is covered. I thought Kyle's murder at a gun range was a bizarre example of poetic justice. The snake eating its own tail. Live by the sword ... die by the sword.

Yeah, helping out fellow vets who have PTSD and winding up getting killed by one. Such justice. Fuck his wife and kid too, right? There aren't words to describe the kind of person I think you are.
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Feb 23, 2015, 04:33
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Feb 23, 2015, 04:33
 
InBlack wrote on Feb 23, 2015, 02:31:
harlock wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 21:20:
anybody watching that show Black Sails?

wow man,.. wow

Ive seen the first season, loved it. Instense shit. Definitely planning on picking up the entire second season once its released.

Ditto. For those who don't know, it's basically a prequel to Treasure Island, featuring real pirates from history as well. It's fucking awesome. One of my favorite things on TV now. (Or, well, Amazon/Bluray)
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Feb 23, 2015, 03:03
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Feb 23, 2015, 03:03
 
PHJF wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 17:41:
However what I don't like is being bludgeoned over the head with a political agenda. And one that's ancient history at that.

Equal rights for gays is ancient history?

Not until gay guys can be just as miserable and help the divorce rate like straight people!

That being said, I really wanted to see Imitation Game and had no clue Cumberbatch was gay, as I thought the movie was about defeating German intelligence by building a computer.

Then again I had no clue that that Priscilla, Queen of the Desert would end up having Lord Elron, and The Agent in it either
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Re: Out of the Blue
Feb 23, 2015, 02:31
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Feb 23, 2015, 02:31
 
harlock wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 21:20:
anybody watching that show Black Sails?

wow man,.. wow

Ive seen the first season, loved it. Instense shit. Definitely planning on picking up the entire second season once its released.
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Feb 22, 2015, 22:14
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Feb 22, 2015, 22:14
 
harlock wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 21:20:
anybody watching that show Black Sails?

wow man,.. wow

Didn't even know about it until just now. I really enjoyed Spartacus, so Starz has shown they know how to make a good show. How does it stack up against the benchmark sailing movie: Master & Commander?
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Feb 22, 2015, 21:20
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anybody watching that show Black Sails?

wow man,.. wow
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Feb 22, 2015, 20:53
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Feb 22, 2015, 20:53
 
jdreyer wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 19:54:
Cutter wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 16:48:
I'd rather have them focus on the actual science and the story surrounding what they did and how it was used. That's barely mentioned in passing in the film. I don't really need yet another film that demonizes straight white males. Again, learn to let go. Get over it. We ALL have our problems.

Well, straight white men are a persecuted minority. We have to watch out for ourselves, or we won't continue to dominate every aspect of the world.

It blows my mind how many people, particularly gamers, feel this is true.

Especially coming from Cutter. Cutter laughs in the face of Christians that feel they're persecuted, yet pulls out the "it's so hard being a straight white male" thing.
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Feb 22, 2015, 20:00
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Feb 22, 2015, 20:00
 
PHJF wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 17:41:
However what I don't like is being bludgeoned over the head with a political agenda. And one that's ancient history at that.

Equal rights for gays is ancient history?

Dude, the marriage equality amendment passed way back in 1975. Hell, we've even had an openly gay president.

Oh, wait.
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Feb 22, 2015, 19:54
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Cutter wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 16:48:
I'd rather have them focus on the actual science and the story surrounding what they did and how it was used. That's barely mentioned in passing in the film. I don't really need yet another film that demonizes straight white males. Again, learn to let go. Get over it. We ALL have our problems.

Well, straight white men are a persecuted minority. We have to watch out for ourselves, or we won't continue to dominate every aspect of the world.
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Feb 22, 2015, 18:44
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Cyanotetyphas wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 17:08:
Although Cutter is being confrontational about it, he's right. Imitation Game isn't a very good film and is blatantly manipulative. Cucumber-batch is good and there probably could be a good on-message film about this but the movie we got uses kid gloves to such an extreme degree (for instance Turing is never shown or depicted in a relationship with another man) that it ends up being a version of The Help. The Enigma code and how it weaves into the end of WWII is fascinating on many levels but this movie uses them as window dressing.

Cutter I also agree with what you said about Budapest. That ugly undercurrent is what makes this one of Wes' best.

agree. IG is one of those films that will be looked back upon by history as a 'wtf' nominee, even moreso if it wins. a well produced movie with excellent performances that blinds voters to how unremarkable it really is. doesn't help that large parts of it were poetically licensed out of reality.

keira knightly's character was actually an incredibly plain looking woman. turing never had anything approaching asperger's, which miraculously disappears halfway through the film anyway. and in a film about the tragedy of a gay hero, they never cover any of his love affairs with men nor the how and why of his actual death.
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Feb 22, 2015, 17:55
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Feb 22, 2015, 17:55
 
Cutter wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 16:48:
beremot wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 15:25:
Cutter wrote on Feb 22, 2015, 15:16:
I just said I saw the damn film didn't I? And I'm well familiar with Turing's story. In fact that's about all the film focuses. Everything about breaking Enigma is just an incidental sideline.

Uhhh ... isn't the film about Turing? And wasn't he in fact, instrumental in breaking the code? And wasn't his homosexuality, given how badly persecuted he was because of it, an important part of his story, not to mention history?

What would you have the filmakers do? Just omit all that stuff? Maybe they should have just left Turing out of the film completely, so as not to upset you so much.

I'd rather have them focus on the actual science and the story surrounding what they did and how it was used. That's barely mentioned in passing in the film. I don't really need yet another film that demonizes straight white males. Again, learn to let go. Get over it. We ALL have our problems.

But I am a straight white male. What do I have to get over? Unless you mean getting over my empathy for others. But I don't want to get over that.

It's true though, that I am talking out of turn here, since I haven't actually seen the movie. And I did read a review that said it vastly oversimplified what happened, giving the impression that Turning cracked the code by himself in five minutes or so. But isn't that always the case with Hollywood? And, again, if the film is focused more on Turning than the Enigma code itself, then it sounds like you just wish that the filmmakers made a different movie than the one they made. I can wish than Anderson had added lightsabers to "Budapest," but that doesn't mean it's a failure, just because he didn't cater to my specific wishes.

And as far as "demonizing straight white males," goes--come on man. You really see yourself as a member of an "oppressed" class? You feel your race and sexual orientation are being used to restrict you in some way?

Where are your chains?

Show them to me.
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Feb 22, 2015, 17:41
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However what I don't like is being bludgeoned over the head with a political agenda. And one that's ancient history at that.

Equal rights for gays is ancient history?
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