A representative tells us that the storefront has “one of the lowest fraud rates in the industry.” The company says that all sellers go through a vetting process and the site offers a “100 percent Buyer Protection” guarantee.
“The current case raised by Ubisoft is surely unfair towards the players. The banned game copies in question were acquired through licensed wholesale distributors and as such the origin of the ‘keys’ is the publisher himself,” Kinguin chief marketing officer Bartłomiej Skarbiński told us via email. “From the gamer point of view its like going out to the store, purchasing a copy of the game, taking it home and suddenly a knock-knock on the door with Ubisoft representative taking the copy away - not even asking you as a paying customer to return it.”
Skarbiński questions whether the publisher had the right to deactivate the keys. “We believe Ubisoft had no legal basis for its action,” he tells us. “They did it just because they simply can. Kinguin of course is not going to challenge Ubisoft in court as we are not match up for these giants. We will continue to focus on customer's satisfaction and our customers know we have never let them down.”
HorrorScope wrote on Jan 29, 2015, 23:59:Steam and GMG regularly have sales of 50-75%, even on recently released titles. The fact that a game is cheap is not an indication that it was acquired fraudulently and will be revoked. As I pointed out, third-party services like TrustPilot show the sites in question to have a good reputation.
I've always known inside when I go somewhere just to buy a key and it is discounted the way they are, flags are raised. So if one got burnt here learn, one of the cheaper lessons you'll learn.
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jan 29, 2015, 08:51:HorrorScope wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 11:13:Actually, no. TrustPilot shows G2A and Kinguin to be reputable websites. Consumers have no reason to suspect trouble. It's like credit card breaches at Target and Chick-fil-A, consumers have no reason to suspect any issues when paying by card.
As we advocate around here, read and teach yourself. Starting at a young age the saying "If it is too good to be true" applies here. If you get burnt, it is simply another lesson in life, as bad as this is, it didn't cost you that much for a lesson, in fact you got a discounted lesson charge, right?
The issue here is that Ubisoft is shifting the burden. Rather than accepting the loss and taking action to prevent credit card fraud it simply deactivates games and screws over consumers who thought they had bought a legitimate version. Consumers have no way of knowing what goes on behind the scenes - all they see is Ubisoft fucking them over.
Really it is the banks who should be held responsible. If a purchase is made using a stolen credit card then the bank should be responsible for the charges made, which would incentivise them to improve security.
eRe4s3r wrote on Jan 29, 2015, 09:25:Verno wrote on Jan 29, 2015, 09:16:
I don't know, I generally like playing games with my friends.
Well, I don't I play games as form of escapism, not to socialize.
SpectralMeat wrote on Jan 29, 2015, 08:29:eRe4s3r wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 21:06:They don't have control over what games can be sold at what region, that's controlled by the publisher.SpectralMeat wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 19:40:Quinn wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 19:30:Dying Light cost $54 on Kinguin and $59 on Steam.
Kinguin is the absolute shit! Bought tens of games there since I found out they sell for the lowest price. 25+ games and not a single problem with these guys.
I better off getting games from GMG with their 20%-30% codes
Edit: I see Kinguin has a steam code gift option also for $47, again same price as GMG
Hah.. GMG...
This product is not available in your region. Sorry!
Or to sum it up
Why I don't buy games from GMG anymore 1:1 prices and region lock. Not a dolt better than uPlay
I can not buy Grey Goo from them for example because it is not available in NA
Some games however available everywhere like GTA5 for example and they always have a coupon floating around for a minimum of 20% off.
Not to mention if you link up your Steam account with them you get money back for certain achievements from games.
I think I have like $5 on my account for doing nothing but playing the games.
To each their own I guess but I much prefer GMG over any shady key seller sites any day.
HorrorScope wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 11:13:Actually, no. TrustPilot shows G2A and Kinguin to be reputable websites. Consumers have no reason to suspect trouble. It's like credit card breaches at Target and Chick-fil-A, consumers have no reason to suspect any issues when paying by card.
As we advocate around here, read and teach yourself. Starting at a young age the saying "If it is too good to be true" applies here. If you get burnt, it is simply another lesson in life, as bad as this is, it didn't cost you that much for a lesson, in fact you got a discounted lesson charge, right?
eRe4s3r wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 21:06:They don't have control over what games can be sold at what region, that's controlled by the publisher.SpectralMeat wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 19:40:Quinn wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 19:30:Dying Light cost $54 on Kinguin and $59 on Steam.
Kinguin is the absolute shit! Bought tens of games there since I found out they sell for the lowest price. 25+ games and not a single problem with these guys.
I better off getting games from GMG with their 20%-30% codes
Edit: I see Kinguin has a steam code gift option also for $47, again same price as GMG
Hah.. GMG...
This product is not available in your region. Sorry!
Or to sum it up
Why I don't buy games from GMG anymore 1:1 prices and region lock. Not a dolt better than uPlay
SpectralMeat wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 19:40:Quinn wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 19:30:Dying Light cost $54 on Kinguin and $59 on Steam.
Kinguin is the absolute shit! Bought tens of games there since I found out they sell for the lowest price. 25+ games and not a single problem with these guys.
I better off getting games from GMG with their 20%-30% codes
Edit: I see Kinguin has a steam code gift option also for $47, again same price as GMG
HorrorScope wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 17:49:
There is some truth in that but...
1. How does a person know this fuels organized crime? It's a sale, who knows really, right? Do you have proof? Is it readily available?
2. $40+ dollar games are now considered expensive, so people wanting to get a bargain, get that.
3. Wages have been stagnent while cost of living continues to rise, what can one expect? Amazon and Wal Mart are popular due to low prices.
4. There is still a cheaper place they could go, right?
Quinn wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 19:30:Dying Light cost $54 on Kinguin and $59 on Steam.
Kinguin is the absolute shit! Bought tens of games there since I found out they sell for the lowest price. 25+ games and not a single problem with these guys.
dubfanatic wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 17:46:Mordecai Walfish wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 15:55:
They laundered the money through these key selling sites. It's common with key stores for large batches of keys to be used by the providers as a way to launder money and get away with credit card fraud like this.
You hear that, all of you entitled brats who think it's cool to save money by buying cheap keys? You are responsible for the increase in CC fraud. You are fueling organized crime. It's your fault that some hapless people now have to deal with unwanted charges on their bills. But hey, it's all good as long as you can get them cheap gamez right?
Satoru wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 16:10:
I see Kinguin is playing coy. As if "oh sorry we had no idea these '3rd party resellers' were selling stolen game its not our fault! boo hoo!"
They can go pound sand. They know exactly what happened and they don't care.
Just like the Sniper Elite 3, some shady cd-key shop comes out and has OUTRAGE over their shady business model, blames the publisher, and says they will 'take legal action'. Guess what they did. JACK. Because they HAVE no legal recourse. They're just all bluster.
They sell stolen keys. ANd somehow Ubisoft is to blame?
Mordecai Walfish wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 15:55:
They laundered the money through these key selling sites. It's common with key stores for large batches of keys to be used by the providers as a way to launder money and get away with credit card fraud like this.
Creston wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 10:45:Kajetan wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 10:42:
2. Because it WISE to not hurt your customers. As i remember Adobe once contacted several hundred customers with "counterfeit" serials and offered them legit ones for free. Adobe came out as the good guy, it was perfect PR story, costing them nearly nothing.
This. 100000 times this.
DangerDog wrote on Jan 28, 2015, 15:36:
I could see maybe one or two keys being purchased with a stolen CC but why wouldn't Origin red flag a sale for say more than five keys on one credit card.
And what of the people who did the CC fraud in the first place, I guess they got away with it.