Into the Black

Link of the Day: Maybe Making Movies Isn't for You Anymore, Ridley Scott. Thanks JDreyer.
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Dec 17, 2014, 13:35
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Beamer wrote on Dec 16, 2014, 23:15:
jdreyer wrote on Dec 16, 2014, 00:38:
Cutter wrote on Dec 15, 2014, 21:41:
Well good thing they're only speaking for Wired, and not the rest of us.

Yeah, true, but I agree with them. What was the last good R Scott movie? American Gangster? And before that, Kingdom of Heaven (director's cut, of course). When was the last time he had two in a row? 15 years ago?

I'm going with Gladiator, honestly, though I didn't see either you mentioned. Didn't look worth the run time.

If you liked Gladiator, you'd probably like Kingdom of Heaven.
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jdreyer wrote on Dec 16, 2014, 00:38:
Cutter wrote on Dec 15, 2014, 21:41:
Well good thing they're only speaking for Wired, and not the rest of us.

Yeah, true, but I agree with them. What was the last good R Scott movie? American Gangster? And before that, Kingdom of Heaven (director's cut, of course). When was the last time he had two in a row? 15 years ago?

I'm going with Gladiator, honestly, though I didn't see either you mentioned. Didn't look worth the run time.
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Dec 16, 2014, 23:00
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jdreyer wrote on Dec 16, 2014, 00:38:
Cutter wrote on Dec 15, 2014, 21:41:
Well good thing they're only speaking for Wired, and not the rest of us.

Yeah, true, but I agree with them. What was the last good R Scott movie? American Gangster? And before that, Kingdom of Heaven (director's cut, of course). When was the last time he had two in a row? 15 years ago?

American Gangster, Body of Lies, Robin Hood. 3 in a row and within the last 10 years.

The guy is a master. People need to understand that directors rarely get to edit their own films or even have much say in the final cut. Prometheus being his most recent dud...I blame Fox. They have a looong history of fucking up projects.

Looking through his list of films he directed there is only a few I have never seen, the rest are all above average or stellar films. None I'm really disappointed with other than Prometheus.

He produces 4 times more projects than he directs. If anything he is over working himself and maybe not putting enough focus on each project.

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Dec 16, 2014, 08:51
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I'd just like to point out that wired criticizing anyone else for being past their prime is a fucking riot.

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Dec 16, 2014, 03:31
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I think he could be convinced to take less money if it gave him a better venue for telling the story he wanted to. At some point the money becomes overtaken by wanting to secure legacy and doing what you want. TV offers two things the movies don't: more time and no ratings.

Kingdom of Heaven was actually a good film once the 40 minutes of cut footage was restored in the director's cut. It seems like he wants to tell longer, more complex stories these days, and the 2 hour movie format is holding him back.

And although Scott is one of the few directors that can get away with making R rated movies with top talent and budgets, even for him the pressure to edit to PG-13 must be enormous. Studios want maximum return on their investments, and the R rating is limiting. On TV, the opposite is encouraged: build your show toward adults to build audience and word of mouth. Put in lots of mature dialog, emotional drama, and violence and nudity. It has been a winning formula for a bunch of top rated shows.
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Dec 16, 2014, 01:28
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I don't think the internet/small screen can pay his $12 million asking price for director.

Netflix probably would. And hell, Soderbergh just had a turn on Cinemax with The Knick.
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I don't think the internet/small screen can pay his $12 million asking price for director.
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Dec 16, 2014, 00:44
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jdreyer wrote on Dec 16, 2014, 00:38:
Cutter wrote on Dec 15, 2014, 21:41:
Well good thing they're only speaking for Wired, and not the rest of us.

Yeah, true, but I agree with them. What was the last good R Scott movie? American Gangster? And before that, Kingdom of Heaven (director's cut, of course). When was the last time he had two in a row? 15 years ago?

true his success rate is somewhat hit-and-miss, but for all his triumphs i give him the big benefit of the doubt. he just needs to be paired with a top rate screenwriter and it's gold. hasn't done that in quite a while. hell, just because he made bladerunner i'll always pay attention to what he's doing.
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Cutter wrote on Dec 15, 2014, 21:41:
Well good thing they're only speaking for Wired, and not the rest of us.

Yeah, true, but I agree with them. What was the last good R Scott movie? American Gangster? And before that, Kingdom of Heaven (director's cut, of course). When was the last time he had two in a row? 15 years ago?
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Well good thing they're only speaking for Wired, and not the rest of us.
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