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Nov 28, 2014, 05:39
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Racism not going away? Well duh! As long as people insist on political corectness, affirmative action and all the rest of that pseudo-scientific social engineering bullshit, rascism, bigotry etc. arent going away, they are being swept under the carpet.

You know when racism will dissapear? When people stop thinking about the concept of race as a defining human attribute. Same with nationalsm, religion and all the other hatemongering identity control mechanisms that were so efficiently employed over the millenia to keep the ignorant population firmly under the boot.
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Nov 27, 2014, 20:07
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Nov 27, 2014, 20:07
 
Verno wrote on Nov 27, 2014, 11:03:
Axis wrote on Nov 27, 2014, 00:35:

No need to leap over oceans to make assumptions that attempt to portray yourself in a more "tolerant" light than me -- that just makes your "conviction" appear fake and contrived.

He didn't do that, you were the one with a problem about their stance on LGBT equality.

Go lemmings go, keep leaping!
Yours truly,

Axis
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Nov 27, 2014, 13:22
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Nov 27, 2014, 13:22
 
jdreyer wrote on Nov 27, 2014, 13:12:
NKD wrote on Nov 27, 2014, 12:54:
Watching people try to find a non-offensive way to complain about gays is always fun.

That made me crack up because it's becoming so true. It's no longer PC to say the "F" word for gays, just like the "N" word became forbidden 40 years ago. And as LGBT folk are more widely accepted, the hatred has to become more and more subtle.

Speaking of becoming more and more subtle, check this article on racism on CNN.

A study finds that many white people only think something is racist if it's intentionally hostile stuff like the KKK. Anything else isn't racism.

You find this very, very often now. In this thread, some straight people think something isn't homophobic unless it literally says "I hate and fear gay people."
In some corners of gamergate, some people [please note two "somes" meaning "it exists" not "it's everyone"] think something isn't sexist unless it's actively saying "I enjoy doing things to keep women oppressed."

People ignore institutionalized and internalized "isms" because they're guilty of them, so they define words with negative connotations in ways that couldn't possibly refer to them. With some things, particularly racism and sexism, though, you can probably argue every person on the planet is guilty.
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Nov 27, 2014, 13:12
 
NKD wrote on Nov 27, 2014, 12:54:
Watching people try to find a non-offensive way to complain about gays is always fun.

That made me crack up because it's becoming so true. It's no longer PC to say the "F" word for gays, just like the "N" word became forbidden 40 years ago. And as LGBT folk are more widely accepted, the hatred has to become more and more subtle.
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Nov 27, 2014, 12:54
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Watching people try to find a non-offensive way to complain about gays is always fun.
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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Nov 27, 2014, 11:07
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This is weird. So many "I don't care about how they treat their employees if the products still suck" posts.

Duh.

But those two things have nothing to do with each other.
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Nov 27, 2014, 11:03
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Nov 27, 2014, 11:03
 
Axis wrote on Nov 27, 2014, 00:35:

No need to leap over oceans to make assumptions that attempt to portray yourself in a more "tolerant" light than me -- that just makes your "conviction" appear fake and contrived.

He didn't do that, you were the one with a problem about their stance on LGBT equality.
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Nov 27, 2014, 10:09
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Nov 27, 2014, 10:09
 
Creston wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 18:41:
garrywong wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 13:18:
Haha, so after being worst company to work for in America for years and years in a row, looks like they managed to find SOMETHING to be "best" at and grabbed it with as much power as their greedy fat fingers let them.

EA has never been the worst place to work. (they were elected as the worst company from a customer perspective.) In fact, if anything, they've consistently ranked in the top... 100 I believe for "best places to work" for quite some time. And they are apparently excellent with regards to the whole inclusion/equality story.


I'm sure you're not forgetting about the whole EA Spouse incident many years ago, but despite EA's constant public displays of "good quality workplace", like that one time they did a big thing with the press showing how they have free top of the line gyms and stuff in the offices and all, that is all just lip service to the press, nothing else. Ask anybody that actually works there can tell you it hasn't really improved at all, ever. What good is a freaking gym when you're working 9-11 every day??

The only real difference is in sub-companies like EA Canada, where a personal friend of mine worked, and it was just an average tech company in Canada. But the majority of their offices down in the US still suffer all the exact same problems that came to light with EA Spouse. And it's not like it's only EA that has these problems, in fact it's an industry-wide problem, with many other big-name companies that act the same way or even worse than EA, but EA is the most prominent and most visible. I'm not sure now with Activision-Blizzard growing pretty strong, but EA might still be the top dog in the industry, and people take example from it. Wrong people, taking the wrong example. So it is a big problem when they don't address any industry-related issues but instead exacerbate them.
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Nov 27, 2014, 08:35
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Nov 27, 2014, 08:35
 
Orogogus wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 18:03:
The LGBT award is a culture war thing. Some people hate what it represents and WaltC is sure as hell one of them. If this becomes a discussion I think it's just going to be a dogpile.

I was actually trying to think of something non-offensive to say...;) My point was--regardless of whatever mad and zany "culture wars" people think are going on--the halls of a game publisher are not the venue in which they should be waged. I could point out that this particular "culture war" has been lost in every place in which it has been waged since antiquity, but that would really be off topic, completely.

The point is that regardless of what EA's internal "LGBT" policies & slogans may be, such things have no bearing on the quality of the games they publish. My dislike for the company has nothing to do with its irrelevant "LGBT" advocacy or whatever it is--my dislike stems from EA's ignorant-cum-fraudulent statements (through various of its officers) about consoles vs. PCs, DRM dressed up as "always online," etc.

Even if EA suddenly had a social epiphany & put up web sites advocating "freedom from the LGBT thought-police," and "freedom from
atheism.org," it would do nothing to correct what I see as the company's wrong-headed views on a number of issues that strictly involve game publishing. In my view, EA involves itself in irrelevant issues like "LGBT" in order to deflect attention from its professional deficits.
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Nov 27, 2014, 07:45
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"LGBT" (& and other bizarre psychopathic human rituals)

Really? You think homosexuality is lumped in with 'psychopaths?'

Just wondering..
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Nov 27, 2014, 00:53
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Cutter wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 19:49:
As an ex-EA employee I'd have to disagree with that...strongly. And don't forget they get sued all the time over shitty working conditions. No one except management sticks around there long unless they like abuse. I'm sure it's a great place to work if you're upper management. Make oodles of money, work normal hours and don't really do anything.


I haven't worked there, so it's obviously hard for me to gainsay this, but I don't think they've been sued over their working conditions in like six or seven years, and it's apparently gotten a lot better (by whatever standards such lists of 'best places to work' deem important.)
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Nov 27, 2014, 00:35
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Nov 27, 2014, 00:35
 
jdreyer wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 18:13:
Axis wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 13:10:
EA - Politically correct to the point of nausea by pandering to the 3% of the population, and holds the the distinguished honor of worst company in America for many years in a row...

Sounds about right...

Treating your employees well and your customers like shit aren't mutually exclusive.

Also, what's wrong with tolerance and acceptance?

Didn't say they were, just stated what seems pretty obvious - their business practices.

No need to leap over oceans to make assumptions that attempt to portray yourself in a more "tolerant" light than me -- that just makes your "conviction" appear fake and contrived.
Yours truly,

Axis
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Nov 26, 2014, 19:49
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Nov 26, 2014, 19:49
 
Creston wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 18:41:
garrywong wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 13:18:
Haha, so after being worst company to work for in America for years and years in a row, looks like they managed to find SOMETHING to be "best" at and grabbed it with as much power as their greedy fat fingers let them.

EA has never been the worst place to work. (they were elected as the worst company from a customer perspective.) In fact, if anything, they've consistently ranked in the top... 100 I believe for "best places to work" for quite some time. And they are apparently excellent with regards to the whole inclusion/equality story.


As an ex-EA employee I'd have to disagree with that...strongly. And don't forget they get sued all the time over shitty working conditions. No one except management sticks around there long unless they like abuse. I'm sure it's a great place to work if you're upper management. Make oodles of money, work normal hours and don't really do anything.

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Nov 26, 2014, 18:41
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Nov 26, 2014, 18:41
 
garrywong wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 13:18:
Haha, so after being worst company to work for in America for years and years in a row, looks like they managed to find SOMETHING to be "best" at and grabbed it with as much power as their greedy fat fingers let them.

EA has never been the worst place to work. (they were elected as the worst company from a customer perspective.) In fact, if anything, they've consistently ranked in the top... 100 I believe for "best places to work" for quite some time. And they are apparently excellent with regards to the whole inclusion/equality story.

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Nov 26, 2014, 18:13
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Nov 26, 2014, 18:13
 
Axis wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 13:10:
EA - Politically correct to the point of nausea by pandering to the 3% of the population, and holds the the distinguished honor of worst company in America for many years in a row...

Sounds about right...

Treating your employees well and your customers like shit aren't mutually exclusive.

Also, what's wrong with tolerance and acceptance?
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Nov 26, 2014, 18:03
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Nov 26, 2014, 18:03
 
Beamer wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 17:56:
Orogogus wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 17:42:
Beamer wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 17:26:
Psychopathic?

Right, because that's going to produce a ton of meaningful discussion.
Well, as others have mentioned here in the past, EA has come a long way from EA Wife and has repeatedly earned "Best Places to Work" awards.

But I will just assume most here think those are bought.

The LGBT award is a culture war thing. Some people hate what it represents and WaltC is sure as hell one of them. If this becomes a discussion I think it's just going to be a dogpile.
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Nov 26, 2014, 17:56
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Nov 26, 2014, 17:56
 
Orogogus wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 17:42:
Beamer wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 17:26:
Psychopathic?

Right, because that's going to produce a ton of meaningful discussion.
Well, as others have mentioned here in the past, EA has come a long way from EA Wife and has repeatedly earned "Best Places to Work" awards.

But I will just assume most here think those are bought.
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Beamer wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 17:26:
Psychopathic?

Right, because that's going to produce a ton of meaningful discussion.
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WaltC wrote on Nov 26, 2014, 16:56:
Yea, too bad EA has such a hard time understanding what makes a great computer game, though. If the company stopped focusing on meaningless garbage like "LGBT" (& and other bizarre psychopathic human rituals) it might actually make great games regularly instead of on the current "fluke" basis. When EA succeeds (DA 1 & 3), invariably, it is despite itself--despite its best efforts to do the opposite. EA has some competition closing in on its decrepit inanity, however: Ubisoft isn't far behind, and in some instances seems bent on becoming just as idiotic a gaming publisher as EA.

Psychopathic?
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Nov 26, 2014, 16:56
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Nov 26, 2014, 16:56
 
Yea, too bad EA has such a hard time understanding what makes a great computer game, though. If the company stopped focusing on meaningless garbage like "LGBT" (& and other bizarre psychopathic human rituals) it might actually make great games regularly instead of on the current "fluke" basis. When EA succeeds (DA 1 & 3), invariably, it is despite itself--despite its best efforts to do the opposite. EA has some competition closing in on its decrepit inanity, however: Ubisoft isn't far behind, and in some instances seems bent on becoming just as idiotic a gaming publisher as EA.
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