Verno wrote on Nov 7, 2014, 10:31:Yeahyeah Yeah wrote on Nov 7, 2014, 09:29:
No one's claiming that a secret pandemic is going on. They're claiming that an actual and obvious pandemic is going on in some countries, and we'd not like it to spread here. One way to help with that is a quarantine.
This has all been covered though by the CDC, WHO and other health bodies. Quarantines with Ebola are difficult to enforce and make contact tracing more difficult which is actually more crucial to preventing outbreaks. The incubation time is a significant factor as well and makes a quarantine very unlikely to be effective. That's without going into the large economic impact of blanket quarantines and the possibility that people will go overland into neighboring countries without quarantine measures anyway.So? If that sort of comparison held water, we'd have shut down the gun control debate years ago with 'gun-related deaths don't matter'.
It's just context so that people stop freaking out over unlikely, extreme possibilities. Ebola is nowhere near as easily spread as something like influenza. I'd certainly worry about ebola if I was traveling to Sierra Leone but it's nothing to lose sleep over living in Texas (yes, even with a confirmed case).
Yeahyeah Yeah wrote on Nov 7, 2014, 09:29:
No one's claiming that a secret pandemic is going on. They're claiming that an actual and obvious pandemic is going on in some countries, and we'd not like it to spread here. One way to help with that is a quarantine.
So? If that sort of comparison held water, we'd have shut down the gun control debate years ago with 'gun-related deaths don't matter'.
Verno wrote on Nov 7, 2014, 09:11:
Ebola is not a significant risk to our country given how its transmitted, sorry man but Fox News and CNN lied to you. There is no secret pandemic going on.
Blaming Ebola on Obama is just weird agenda pushing too.
Missing the forest for the trees, more people will die of the flu than they will Ebola.
Axis wrote on Nov 6, 2014, 18:20:
People have NO CLUE how utterly dangerous Ebola is, you go to heavily infected countries (for any reason) and come back, you BET you better be quarantined.
We get ONE case here and it shuts down the entire hospital damn near, flights, busses, places visited. Nurses, doctors, workers you think they're gonna stick around for long? Would you?
It's something you don't mess with, and these selfish ass whiners can go fuck themselves (science based my ass, almost nothing is scientifically proven about ebola, however we DO factually know transmission in up to 12% of cases can no show no symptoms for much longer than 21 days, can live on dry surfaces for several days and has a 75% kill rate. ONE slipped case has the potential to kill many innocent people.
And now we have Obama stopping the media from reporting almost everything about ebola, which is why it seems to have "gone away". Inept, incompetent president on every level -- You all better pray it doesn't spread, forget panic - just be smart and use your head. Now is NOT the time for bullshit political correctness.
InBlack wrote on Nov 7, 2014, 03:46:Axis wrote on Nov 6, 2014, 18:20:
People have NO CLUE how utterly dangerous Ebola is, you go to heavily infected countries (for any reason) and come back, you BET you better be quarantined.
We get ONE case here and it shuts down the entire hospital damn near, flights, busses, places visited. Nurses, doctors, workers you think they're gonna stick around for long? Would you?
It's something you don't mess with, and these selfish ass whiners can go fuck themselves (science based my ass, almost nothing is scientifically proven about ebola, however we DO factually know transmission in up to 12% of cases can no show no symptoms for much longer than 21 days, can live on dry surfaces for several days and has a 75% kill rate. ONE slipped case has the potential to kill many innocent people.
And now we have Obama stopping the media from reporting almost everything about ebola, which is why it seems to have "gone away". Inept, incompetent president on every level -- You all better pray it doesn't spread, forget panic - just be smart and use your head. Now is NOT the time for bullshit political correctness.
Man you have some serious issues.
Axis wrote on Nov 6, 2014, 18:20:
People have NO CLUE how utterly dangerous Ebola is, you go to heavily infected countries (for any reason) and come back, you BET you better be quarantined.
We get ONE case here and it shuts down the entire hospital damn near, flights, busses, places visited. Nurses, doctors, workers you think they're gonna stick around for long? Would you?
It's something you don't mess with, and these selfish ass whiners can go fuck themselves (science based my ass, almost nothing is scientifically proven about ebola, however we DO factually know transmission in up to 12% of cases can no show no symptoms for much longer than 21 days, can live on dry surfaces for several days and has a 75% kill rate. ONE slipped case has the potential to kill many innocent people.
And now we have Obama stopping the media from reporting almost everything about ebola, which is why it seems to have "gone away". Inept, incompetent president on every level -- You all better pray it doesn't spread, forget panic - just be smart and use your head. Now is NOT the time for bullshit political correctness.
Pigeon wrote on Nov 6, 2014, 21:22:Axis wrote on Nov 6, 2014, 20:17:NKD wrote on Nov 6, 2014, 19:40:
Ebola panickers are fucking ignorant putzes on par with climate deniers and anti-vaxxers, but there's nothing wrong with erring on the side of caution a bit. It's not like thousands of Americans are being indefinitely detained.
Says the climate panickers...
Don't worry, Senator Inhofe will soon be chairing the Environmental and Public Works Committee. He's a man grounded in solid scientific, evidence based, theory:“[T]he Genesis 8:22 that I use in there is that ‘as long as the earth remains there will be seed time and harvest, cold and heat, winter and summer, day and night.’ My point is, God’s still up there. The arrogance of people to think that we, human beings, would be able to change what He is doing in the climate is to me outrageous.”
I'm sure he's got some great ideas on dealing with Ebola as well.
Axis wrote on Nov 6, 2014, 20:17:NKD wrote on Nov 6, 2014, 19:40:
Ebola panickers are fucking ignorant putzes on par with climate deniers and anti-vaxxers, but there's nothing wrong with erring on the side of caution a bit. It's not like thousands of Americans are being indefinitely detained.
Says the climate panickers...
“[T]he Genesis 8:22 that I use in there is that ‘as long as the earth remains there will be seed time and harvest, cold and heat, winter and summer, day and night.’ My point is, God’s still up there. The arrogance of people to think that we, human beings, would be able to change what He is doing in the climate is to me outrageous.”
NKD wrote on Nov 6, 2014, 19:40:
Ebola panickers are fucking ignorant putzes on par with climate deniers and anti-vaxxers, but there's nothing wrong with erring on the side of caution a bit. It's not like thousands of Americans are being indefinitely detained.