X-Rebirth DLC Free to Preorder

EGOSOFT announces that a new version 2.50 patch will soon be released for X-Rebirth, which will bring many improvements, including a new menu system, external camera, new small shipyards, and more. They also outline plans for a version 3.0 to follow in December, and also unveil a new DLC pack called The Teladi Outpost that will be released around the same time, saying this is free to owners of the game who preorder the DLC before the end of next month (thanks Slashman and Dala). Here's word:
Together with the general availability of Update 2.50 for X Rebirth, which will be released soon, bringing a new menu system, external camera, new small shipyards and many other improvements, we are happy to announce today the DLC - X Rebirth: The Teladi Outpost - coming in December 2014:

Showing the X-Series in a whole new light. "X Rebirth: The Teladi Outpost" contains version 3.0 of X Rebirth and the brand new expansion The Teladi Outpost. This expansion offers the player exciting new content, such as an independent storyline and a whole new star system containing two unique sectors. Here the player can find a massive new space station belonging to the Teladi, harbouring not only numerous factories but also a wealth of new Teladi ships.

These new areas also contain hazardous regions and new groups of smugglers and pirates that offer the player countless opportunities, as well as new weapons and equipment for the Albion Skunk.

Until 1st November, preordering this DLC will be free for all owners of X Rebirth.
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harlock wrote on Sep 29, 2014, 14:47:
Slashman wrote on Sep 29, 2014, 09:11:
They quoted 'GTA in space' as how they wanted to make the gameplay.

GTA in space? Seriously?

GTA in space is totally possible, personally i think it would be super awesome

but the x series is not even close to it

Quick! Someone tell Chris Roberts. Smells like a great cash-gra...erm..I mean stretch goal for StarCitizen!
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Sep 29, 2014, 20:13
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Sep 29, 2014, 20:13
 
harlock wrote on Sep 29, 2014, 14:47:
Slashman wrote on Sep 29, 2014, 09:11:
They quoted 'GTA in space' as how they wanted to make the gameplay.

GTA in space? Seriously?

GTA in space is totally possible, personally i think it would be super awesome

but the x series is not even close to it

That was my point. Nothing in the X series is, or has ever been, close to that.
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Re: X-Rebirth DLC Free to Preorder Sep 29, 2014, 14:47
Sep 29, 2014, 14:47
 
Slashman wrote on Sep 29, 2014, 09:11:
They quoted 'GTA in space' as how they wanted to make the gameplay.

GTA in space? Seriously?

GTA in space is totally possible, personally i think it would be super awesome

but the x series is not even close to it
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Sep 29, 2014, 09:59
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Re: X-Rebirth DLC Free to Preorder Sep 29, 2014, 09:59
Sep 29, 2014, 09:59
 
Kajetan wrote on Sep 29, 2014, 09:51:
InBlack wrote on Sep 29, 2014, 06:15:
Nobody releases a broken product by design.
Of course not. But they BROKE it when they made some very bad design descisions

On that point, we are in complete agreement.
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Sep 29, 2014, 09:51
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Sep 29, 2014, 09:51
 
InBlack wrote on Sep 29, 2014, 06:15:
Nobody releases a broken product by design.
Of course not. But they BROKE it when they made some very bad design descisions
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Sep 29, 2014, 09:11
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Re: X-Rebirth DLC Free to Preorder Sep 29, 2014, 09:11
Sep 29, 2014, 09:11
 
InBlack wrote on Sep 29, 2014, 06:15:
Kajetan wrote on Sep 29, 2014, 05:53:
Rebirth was a nearly dead project, because Egosoft couldnt get it right after years of developement and the rescue operations by Koch Media ruined the game finally for good. This game is BROKEN by design.

Nobody releases a broken product by design. I agree that it was released as a broken and flawed product, and that many design attributes plainly just dont work. But thats incompetence, not intent.

I'm thinking that what Kajetan meant was that they made bad design decisions. Several of those decisions were told to the community and they were questioned but ignored, because in Egosoft's own words: "The community may not like it but we're making a game to appeal to a wider audience."

They wanted to make the 'casual gamer's X'. The problem is that this type of game cannot really exist. X is complex not just by design, but to a great extent by necessity. It combines a combat space flight sim, with trading, station/empire building, exploration(kind of not implemented in Rebirth) and mission based gameplay. You can't really 'simplify' that forumla past a certain point. People are going to have fleets of ships under their command that need to be managed and controlled. They are going to want fine control over how their stations produce and trade wares.

The point is that there is no 'casual X audience'. I don't know who or what they were trying to appeal to but their pre-release vids pained an extremely misleading picture of the game. They quoted 'GTA in space' as how they wanted to make the gameplay.

GTA in space? Seriously?
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Kajetan wrote on Sep 29, 2014, 05:53:
Rebirth was a nearly dead project, because Egosoft couldnt get it right after years of developement and the rescue operations by Koch Media ruined the game finally for good. This game is BROKEN by design.

Nobody releases a broken product by design. I agree that it was released as a broken and flawed product, and that many design attributes plainly just dont work. But thats incompetence, not intent.
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Iurand wrote on Sep 29, 2014, 04:43:
jdreyer wrote on Sep 29, 2014, 03:16:

I don't know about this case specifically, but aren't games usually pushed out half-baked by publishers, not devs?
Damn you publisher!
This is incorrect. Rebirth was funded by Koch Media via their label "Deep Silver". Koch Media had their own producers not only supervising the developement of Rebirth in the final phases of the project, but also influencing game design and content.

Rebirth was a nearly dead project, because Egosoft couldnt get it right after years of developement and the rescue operations by Koch Media ruined the game finally for good. This game is BROKEN by design.
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Sep 29, 2014, 04:43
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Sep 29, 2014, 04:43
 
jdreyer wrote on Sep 29, 2014, 03:16:

I don't know about this case specifically, but aren't games usually pushed out half-baked by publishers, not devs?

Damn you publisher!
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Sep 29, 2014, 03:16
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Slashman wrote on Sep 28, 2014, 20:46:
As a developer, you should not nurture a pattern in your studio where you release an unfinished game and then take a year or more to get it into a playable and decent state.

OK, you did it once and then again. Does it really mean you need to go for a hat-trick? How can anyone be proud to manage a dev studio like this?

Not to mention the stuff that will never get fixed like the horrible character models, less than grade-school level voice acting and the useless co-pilot who can't actually DO anything.

I don't know about this case specifically, but aren't games usually pushed out half-baked by publishers, not devs?
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Sep 29, 2014, 02:34
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Rigs wrote on Sep 28, 2014, 21:06:
Ok, I understand that people are still pissed about Rebirth and I don't blame them. Still, I have to give Egosoft credit for putting their necks out to try something different. They did the same game 4 times in a row and while most would've loved more of the same (and maybe even landing on planets? Drool ) they gave us this instead. That's their prerogative, so be it. Unfortunately, their gamble didn't turn out the way they'd hoped. It happens. What looks good on paper and in your head doesn't always pan out, but Egosoft being a business, it's not like they could just throw it out and retouch-up X3:AP and call it X4. People that bought Rebirth would bitch about being abandoned and thrown away and others would complain they're doing the same old thing again. So what can they do? They're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Instead of throwing in the towel, they hunkered down and started fixing Rebirth, just as everyone who played it, begged for them to do. Now, a year later, with Rebirth not exactly burning up the charts or flying off the shelves (do they even have shelves anymore? Was there even a physical release of Rebirth?), understandably, Egosoft, as said being a business, is in need of new capital to continue. So, like pretty much every other game dev out there, they bring out DLC or an expansion to bring in needed funds.

I'm not seeing the problem here. Whether you like the reality of the situation or not, it's still reality. They need money to continue. Every business does. They're trying to fix Rebirth as fast as possible instead of throwing it to the wolves and working on some cash grab or rehashed X3:AP sequel (which, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind, but still...). What you decide to do with your money is your business. But I understand the reasons why they're doing what they're doing. And you know, just as well as I do, that many other devs do that same exact thing...does it make it right? No, but they are trying...


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Oh bullshit, they released a broken half-assed attempt at a game. Even more so than with their usual outings. There are whole crucal systems missing and it shows. The one ship thing. The speed travel highway, omg. The myrad of graphical quirks and errors including the inability to look around in your cockpit (did they fix this wtf?). The horrible, horrible ingame trade/command menus. In fact the whole UI is a nightmare. There was no excuse to release a game that was at best half done.
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Sep 29, 2014, 00:51
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Slashman wrote on Sep 28, 2014, 15:21:
NeOCidE wrote on Sep 28, 2014, 14:49:
Competition is going to be fierce in the space sim genre. I fear for Egosoft. You need to nail the product before it ships or your just going to drive your customers to other alternatives.

The tricky bit is that there isn't a real alternative to Rebirth in terms of empire building gameplay. ED does space combat exceptionally well but it just offers trading. Star Citizen is an MMO, so really, Egosoft had the perfect opportunity to release something unique that no one else was offering. Right now, the only alternative would be Limit Theory but that isn't out yet either.

Egosoft would be dead in the water if the EVE Online devs make an EVE Offline. I dunno why they are not doing that, but I am guessing it will happen at some point. I know I am not the only one who wants an EVE that is not ONLINE
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Rigs wrote on Sep 28, 2014, 21:06:
Was there even a physical release of Rebirth?

There was, in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland at least. I saw a boxed copy in a shop about three months after the day of release.
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Sep 28, 2014, 23:58
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Creston wrote on Sep 28, 2014, 21:03:
Zanthar wrote on Sep 28, 2014, 20:07:
No... it's if you buy this crappy DLC the next crappy 'new one' is free.

No, it shows up as "Free" in the Steam store, and when you go to "purchase" it, the buy button is a download button. So this one IS definitely free if you own Rebirth.

Clicking the download button doesn't do anything for me, though.

Do it in the client.... worked for me.. free DLC but it's not yet released so it won't display anywhere...

At least there is no requirement to actually INSTALL rebirth
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Sep 28, 2014, 23:40
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Sep 28, 2014, 23:40
 
If this game eventually becomes something good, I'll get it.

...but I'm not holding my breath.
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Sep 28, 2014, 21:07
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Sep 28, 2014, 21:07
 
take the good bits from x and combine them with the good bits of starpoint gemini and they may actually have something!

SPG2 has pretty nice combat, something bugs me about the chase cam but dunno what. However it's stations, people, universe, trading etc are pretty damn weak. X excels at all it's weak spots - even over excels in the case of the walking around the station shite - but X's combat always felt like an afterthought.

Merge the two!
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Ok, I understand that people are still pissed about Rebirth and I don't blame them. Still, I have to give Egosoft credit for putting their necks out to try something different. They did the same game 4 times in a row and while most would've loved more of the same (and maybe even landing on planets? Drool ) they gave us this instead. That's their prerogative, so be it. Unfortunately, their gamble didn't turn out the way they'd hoped. It happens. What looks good on paper and in your head doesn't always pan out, but Egosoft being a business, it's not like they could just throw it out and retouch-up X3:AP and call it X4. People that bought Rebirth would bitch about being abandoned and thrown away and others would complain they're doing the same old thing again. So what can they do? They're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Instead of throwing in the towel, they hunkered down and started fixing Rebirth, just as everyone who played it, begged for them to do. Now, a year later, with Rebirth not exactly burning up the charts or flying off the shelves (do they even have shelves anymore? Was there even a physical release of Rebirth?), understandably, Egosoft, as said being a business, is in need of new capital to continue. So, like pretty much every other game dev out there, they bring out DLC or an expansion to bring in needed funds.

I'm not seeing the problem here. Whether you like the reality of the situation or not, it's still reality. They need money to continue. Every business does. They're trying to fix Rebirth as fast as possible instead of throwing it to the wolves and working on some cash grab or rehashed X3:AP sequel (which, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind, but still...). What you decide to do with your money is your business. But I understand the reasons why they're doing what they're doing. And you know, just as well as I do, that many other devs do that same exact thing...does it make it right? No, but they are trying...


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Zanthar wrote on Sep 28, 2014, 20:07:
No... it's if you buy this crappy DLC the next crappy 'new one' is free.

No, it shows up as "Free" in the Steam store, and when you go to "purchase" it, the buy button is a download button. So this one IS definitely free if you own Rebirth.

Clicking the download button doesn't do anything for me, though.
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Sep 28, 2014, 20:46
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Sep 28, 2014, 20:46
 
As a developer, you should not nurture a pattern in your studio where you release an unfinished game and then take a year or more to get it into a playable and decent state.

OK, you did it once and then again. Does it really mean you need to go for a hat-trick? How can anyone be proud to manage a dev studio like this?

Not to mention the stuff that will never get fixed like the horrible character models, less than grade-school level voice acting and the useless co-pilot who can't actually DO anything.
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Sep 28, 2014, 20:07
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Sep 28, 2014, 20:07
 
No... it's if you buy this crappy DLC the next crappy 'new one' is free.

I think I'll pass, egosoft and no I'm not going to give them any credit no matter how many times they keep patching this unpolished turd of a game.
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