Beamer wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 20:16:Prez wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 16:59:This is what everyone complaining about "SJWs" is fighting against - a couple more heroines, a few unusual gaming scenarios, and some better realized secondary characters.
The horror!
Actually, no it's not. Like, at all. If that's all you guys wanted you'd be quiet now, because you already have all that in spades. One has to look no further than yesterday's "On Sale" listing. A quick perusal of Steam or Desura yields dozens more such examples, if not hundreds. SJW's want that to be perceived as our platform because it is easily assailable. Alas, it isnt, nor was it ever.
And none of those are AAA games.
Prez wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 16:59:This is what everyone complaining about "SJWs" is fighting against - a couple more heroines, a few unusual gaming scenarios, and some better realized secondary characters.
The horror!
Actually, no it's not. Like, at all. If that's all you guys wanted you'd be quiet now, because you already have all that in spades. One has to look no further than yesterday's "On Sale" listing. A quick perusal of Steam or Desura yields dozens more such examples, if not hundreds. SJW's want that to be perceived as our platform because it is easily assailable. Alas, it isnt, nor was it ever.
This is what everyone complaining about "SJWs" is fighting against - a couple more heroines, a few unusual gaming scenarios, and some better realized secondary characters.
The horror!
harlock wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 14:30:
*place standard bullshit reply HERE*
harlock wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 12:40:Beamer wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 12:19:
I think this is really the best quote in the article"When I look at the hate thrown at SJW (and indeed the hate thrown back, since I certainly wouldn't suggest that it goes all one way) I wonder what the hell it's all about. What do gamers think SJWs can actually do when it comes to games? Developers already have hundreds of clamoring voices, many of whom pay their wages, to listen to before internet critics. From a developer's point of view it's maybe getting a team to put a bit more thought into their female characters, from what they look like to who they are and how they relate to the game world (something I push for anyway.) We might get another couple of heroines, a few unusual gaming scenarios and some better realized female secondary characters. That's really it. And is that so bad?
This is what everyone complaining about "SJWs" is fighting against - a couple more heroines, a few unusual gaming scenarios, and some better realized secondary characters.
The horror!
oh, yeh? i thought they were complaining about the ridiculously overblown claims of harassment, exploitation, degradation, and all the other whiny "poor me" and prepube "i hate you!!" articles, videos, rants, etc.
you dont see that? HOW SHOCKING
Beamer wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 12:19:
I think this is really the best quote in the article"When I look at the hate thrown at SJW (and indeed the hate thrown back, since I certainly wouldn't suggest that it goes all one way) I wonder what the hell it's all about. What do gamers think SJWs can actually do when it comes to games? Developers already have hundreds of clamoring voices, many of whom pay their wages, to listen to before internet critics. From a developer's point of view it's maybe getting a team to put a bit more thought into their female characters, from what they look like to who they are and how they relate to the game world (something I push for anyway.) We might get another couple of heroines, a few unusual gaming scenarios and some better realized female secondary characters. That's really it. And is that so bad?
This is what everyone complaining about "SJWs" is fighting against - a couple more heroines, a few unusual gaming scenarios, and some better realized secondary characters.
The horror!
When I look at the hate thrown at SJW (and indeed the hate thrown back, since I certainly wouldn't suggest that it goes all one way) I wonder what the hell it's all about. What do gamers think SJWs can actually do when it comes to games? Developers already have hundreds of clamoring voices, many of whom pay their wages, to listen to before internet critics. From a developer's point of view it's maybe getting a team to put a bit more thought into their female characters, from what they look like to who they are and how they relate to the game world (something I push for anyway.) We might get another couple of heroines, a few unusual gaming scenarios and some better realized female secondary characters. That's really it. And is that so bad?
Verno wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 11:34:UHD wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:56:Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:00:
Considering occupy was gutted from within by sjw's, and GG is refusing to let them control the narrative perhaps you're just reading into it far too much.
I love how SJWs are your bogeymen. They're everywhere, man, crawling out of the woodwork while you play DotA2 and disturbing your video game time. You can't get five minutes' peace without some SJW breaking into your house to call you a manhater. Seriously, the nerve!
Yes and the "GamerGate" folk are just out in force, harassing and raping women. Pretty soon they won't be able to vote again!
UHD wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:56:Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:00:
Considering occupy was gutted from within by sjw's, and GG is refusing to let them control the narrative perhaps you're just reading into it far too much.
I love how SJWs are your bogeymen. They're everywhere, man, crawling out of the woodwork while you play DotA2 and disturbing your video game time. You can't get five minutes' peace without some SJW breaking into your house to call you a manhater. Seriously, the nerve!
Mad Max RW wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 10:50:
And Beamer rushes in to provide the perfect example. I'm sure one of his parrots will be quick to follow.
Mad Max RW wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 10:14:UHD wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:56:Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:00:
Considering occupy was gutted from within by sjw's, and GG is refusing to let them control the narrative perhaps you're just reading into it far too much.
I love how SJWs are your bogeymen. They're everywhere, man, crawling out of the woodwork while you play DotA2 and disturbing your video game time. You can't get five minutes' peace without some SJW breaking into your house to call you a manhater. Seriously, the nerve!
You (and the few other whiteknights left here) clearly feel threatened by trying to diminish the argument with ad hominem nonsense. Run out the clock until people move on. But they aren't moving on because the majority is tired of hypocritical ideologues who find meaning in life by bullying others. Their biggest mistake was picking a fight with people who have the means to fight back. Deny. Deflect. Diminish. It's not working this time and you know it.
I wonder if you can even go back to ranting about Christianity, the Tea Party, banks, businesses, anything and everything related to America, or straight white males without everyone rolling their eyes in disgust. It's the same copy and paste rhetorical bullshit. Run to Kotaku or RPS or one of the other internet sanctuaries, because you're finished.
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:00:Beamer wrote on Sep 25, 2014, 22:27:No I'm not changing goal posts. It was people who jumped the gun and believe it was reviews--this is what happens when people don't research something. It was always about what I said, you don't want to believe that fine.
The guy I responded to in the quote you singled me out on said it was about reviews.
So you're changing goalposts. Nice.
Then again, I *could* change the goal posts and be perfectly okay with it. After all the anti-gg side, has been doing nothing but that, right.NKD wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 06:23:Considering occupy was gutted from within by sjw's, and GG is refusing to let them control the narrative perhaps you're just reading into it far too much.
No one even knows what they are arguing about or for anymore. Even here on Blue's trying to follow the conversation is nigh impossible. Are we arguing about sexism? Is it about de-facto censorship? Is it journalistic integrity? Is it global warming? Are CEOs paid too much? Coke vs. Pepsi?
This shit is more fractured and meaningless than Occupy Wall Street. Just another generic excuse for people to voice their favorite tangentially gaming-related gripe and rabble rabble rabble.
Face it, this issue is so muddied that no productive conversation can come out of it. None. It's been tainted, soiled, and ruined by everyone who wants to co-opt the conversation for their own agenda.
UHD wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:56:Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:00:
Considering occupy was gutted from within by sjw's, and GG is refusing to let them control the narrative perhaps you're just reading into it far too much.
I love how SJWs are your bogeymen. They're everywhere, man, crawling out of the woodwork while you play DotA2 and disturbing your video game time. You can't get five minutes' peace without some SJW breaking into your house to call you a manhater. Seriously, the nerve!
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:00:
Considering occupy was gutted from within by sjw's, and GG is refusing to let them control the narrative perhaps you're just reading into it far too much.
Beamer wrote on Sep 25, 2014, 22:27:No I'm not changing goal posts. It was people who jumped the gun and believe it was reviews--this is what happens when people don't research something. It was always about what I said, you don't want to believe that fine.
The guy I responded to in the quote you singled me out on said it was about reviews.
So you're changing goalposts. Nice.
NKD wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 06:23:Considering occupy was gutted from within by sjw's, and GG is refusing to let them control the narrative perhaps you're just reading into it far too much.
No one even knows what they are arguing about or for anymore. Even here on Blue's trying to follow the conversation is nigh impossible. Are we arguing about sexism? Is it about de-facto censorship? Is it journalistic integrity? Is it global warming? Are CEOs paid too much? Coke vs. Pepsi?
This shit is more fractured and meaningless than Occupy Wall Street. Just another generic excuse for people to voice their favorite tangentially gaming-related gripe and rabble rabble rabble.
Face it, this issue is so muddied that no productive conversation can come out of it. None. It's been tainted, soiled, and ruined by everyone who wants to co-opt the conversation for their own agenda.