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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 23:32
Prez
 
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 23:32
Sep 26, 2014, 23:32
 Prez
 
Beamer wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 20:16:
Prez wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 16:59:
This is what everyone complaining about "SJWs" is fighting against - a couple more heroines, a few unusual gaming scenarios, and some better realized secondary characters.

The horror!

Actually, no it's not. Like, at all. If that's all you guys wanted you'd be quiet now, because you already have all that in spades. One has to look no further than yesterday's "On Sale" listing. A quick perusal of Steam or Desura yields dozens more such examples, if not hundreds. SJW's want that to be perceived as our platform because it is easily assailable. Alas, it isnt, nor was it ever.

And none of those are AAA games.

And that matters not at all. What were you saying before about moving goal posts again? Regardless, there are plenty of big budget games that fit this description, yet SJW's are still bitching; ergo it is not about what you claim it is.
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 20:16
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 20:16
Sep 26, 2014, 20:16
 
Prez wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 16:59:
This is what everyone complaining about "SJWs" is fighting against - a couple more heroines, a few unusual gaming scenarios, and some better realized secondary characters.

The horror!

Actually, no it's not. Like, at all. If that's all you guys wanted you'd be quiet now, because you already have all that in spades. One has to look no further than yesterday's "On Sale" listing. A quick perusal of Steam or Desura yields dozens more such examples, if not hundreds. SJW's want that to be perceived as our platform because it is easily assailable. Alas, it isnt, nor was it ever.

And none of those are AAA games.
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 19:50
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 19:50
Sep 26, 2014, 19:50
 
Yeesh.

All I know is that apparently, I am dead and should be ashamed of myself or something according to some dipshit with an English Major and C-tier or D-tier writing capabilities whose heights of talent and skill have taken them all the way to video game blog website clickbait.

I'm so glad I had that explained to me. I'll turn my fun badge in immediately.

It's time for game "journalism" to go away as we know it. It's shit quality writing for the most part, the only industry that is any more incestuous between the reporters and the industry is the food industry, and as others have said (like over at slate here http://tinyurl.com/nvdbj45 ), "gaming journalists" are becoming the appendix of the gaming industry. They're not particularly necessary any more.

Whatever gamergate was, I'm seeing an awful lot of whining from journalists about how we, as an audience and as consumers, both of games and of their product, should behave. This is a terminal attitude. It cannot last. Even Apple, as huge as it is, bends to customer will on occasion and doesn't dictate the proper attitude towards their product.

Game coverage is becoming a lot more direct between devs, publishers, and consumers, and that's a good thing. It'll get these dips out of the industry and back to Starbucks slinging my Double Pumpkin Spice Latte. And it can't happen soon enough.

Then shit like all the doxing and the crap about affairs and stuff will be a null issue.

I can dream can't I?
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 16:59
Prez
 
66.
Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 16:59
Sep 26, 2014, 16:59
 Prez
 
This is what everyone complaining about "SJWs" is fighting against - a couple more heroines, a few unusual gaming scenarios, and some better realized secondary characters.

The horror!

Actually, no it's not. Like, at all. If that's all you guys wanted you'd be quiet now, because you already have all that in spades. One has to look no further than yesterday's "On Sale" listing. A quick perusal of Steam or Desura yields dozens more such examples, if not hundreds. SJW's want that to be perceived as our platform because it is easily assailable. Alas, it isnt, nor was it ever.


This comment was edited on Sep 26, 2014, 17:08.
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 14:31
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 14:31
Sep 26, 2014, 14:31
 
harlock wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 14:30:
*place standard bullshit reply HERE*

* place standard cop out because you have no real response HERE *
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 14:30
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 14:30
Sep 26, 2014, 14:30
 
*place standard bullshit reply HERE*
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 12:50
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 12:50
Sep 26, 2014, 12:50
 
harlock wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 12:40:
Beamer wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 12:19:
I think this is really the best quote in the article"
When I look at the hate thrown at SJW (and indeed the hate thrown back, since I certainly wouldn't suggest that it goes all one way) I wonder what the hell it's all about. What do gamers think SJWs can actually do when it comes to games? Developers already have hundreds of clamoring voices, many of whom pay their wages, to listen to before internet critics. From a developer's point of view it's maybe getting a team to put a bit more thought into their female characters, from what they look like to who they are and how they relate to the game world (something I push for anyway.) We might get another couple of heroines, a few unusual gaming scenarios and some better realized female secondary characters. That's really it. And is that so bad?

This is what everyone complaining about "SJWs" is fighting against - a couple more heroines, a few unusual gaming scenarios, and some better realized secondary characters.

The horror!

oh, yeh? i thought they were complaining about the ridiculously overblown claims of harassment, exploitation, degradation, and all the other whiny "poor me" and prepube "i hate you!!" articles, videos, rants, etc.

you dont see that? HOW SHOCKING

The complaints about harassment came from people responding with "YOU'RE TRYING TO CENSOR MY GAMES YOU PSYCHO BITCH!"

The rest? You really haven't watched the Tropes, have you? It isn't saying "here are a bunch of games that are bad and need to never be made." It's saying "here are a bunch of trends that an enormous amount of popular games do that it would be nice if fewer games did."

That isn't censorship, that's asking for more thought and more strong female characters.

I'm sorry if the guy that has said, multiple times, that people supporting this are "bitches" or "psycho bitches" doesn't get the nuances of a gender discussion.
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 12:40
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 12:40
Sep 26, 2014, 12:40
 
Beamer wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 12:19:
I think this is really the best quote in the article"
When I look at the hate thrown at SJW (and indeed the hate thrown back, since I certainly wouldn't suggest that it goes all one way) I wonder what the hell it's all about. What do gamers think SJWs can actually do when it comes to games? Developers already have hundreds of clamoring voices, many of whom pay their wages, to listen to before internet critics. From a developer's point of view it's maybe getting a team to put a bit more thought into their female characters, from what they look like to who they are and how they relate to the game world (something I push for anyway.) We might get another couple of heroines, a few unusual gaming scenarios and some better realized female secondary characters. That's really it. And is that so bad?

This is what everyone complaining about "SJWs" is fighting against - a couple more heroines, a few unusual gaming scenarios, and some better realized secondary characters.

The horror!

oh, yeh? i thought they were complaining about the ridiculously overblown claims of harassment, exploitation, degradation, and all the other whiny "poor me" and prepube "i hate you!!" articles, videos, rants, etc.

you dont see that? HOW SHOCKING
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 12:19
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 12:19
Sep 26, 2014, 12:19
 
I think this is really the best quote in the article"
When I look at the hate thrown at SJW (and indeed the hate thrown back, since I certainly wouldn't suggest that it goes all one way) I wonder what the hell it's all about. What do gamers think SJWs can actually do when it comes to games? Developers already have hundreds of clamoring voices, many of whom pay their wages, to listen to before internet critics. From a developer's point of view it's maybe getting a team to put a bit more thought into their female characters, from what they look like to who they are and how they relate to the game world (something I push for anyway.) We might get another couple of heroines, a few unusual gaming scenarios and some better realized female secondary characters. That's really it. And is that so bad?

This is what everyone complaining about "SJWs" is fighting against - a couple more heroines, a few unusual gaming scenarios, and some better realized secondary characters.

The horror!
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 11:53
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 11:53
Sep 26, 2014, 11:53
 
Nah it's really pointless but I had to make the....point
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 11:47
UHD
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 11:47
Sep 26, 2014, 11:47
UHD
 
Verno wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 11:34:
UHD wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:56:
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:00:
Considering occupy was gutted from within by sjw's, and GG is refusing to let them control the narrative perhaps you're just reading into it far too much.

I love how SJWs are your bogeymen. They're everywhere, man, crawling out of the woodwork while you play DotA2 and disturbing your video game time. You can't get five minutes' peace without some SJW breaking into your house to call you a manhater. Seriously, the nerve!

Yes and the "GamerGate" folk are just out in force, harassing and raping women. Pretty soon they won't be able to vote again!

See, hyperbole is more fun than talking in circles!
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 11:34
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 11:34
Sep 26, 2014, 11:34
 
UHD wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:56:
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:00:
Considering occupy was gutted from within by sjw's, and GG is refusing to let them control the narrative perhaps you're just reading into it far too much.

I love how SJWs are your bogeymen. They're everywhere, man, crawling out of the woodwork while you play DotA2 and disturbing your video game time. You can't get five minutes' peace without some SJW breaking into your house to call you a manhater. Seriously, the nerve!

Yes and the "GamerGate" folk are just out in force, harassing and raping women. Pretty soon they won't be able to vote again!
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 10:58
UHD
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 10:58
Sep 26, 2014, 10:58
UHD
 
Mad Max RW wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 10:50:
And Beamer rushes in to provide the perfect example. I'm sure one of his parrots will be quick to follow.

Parrots, being birds, are awesome. I wish I could be that rad.
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 10:50
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 10:50
Sep 26, 2014, 10:50
 
And Beamer rushes in to provide the perfect example. I'm sure one of his parrots will be quick to follow.
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 10:38
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 10:38
Sep 26, 2014, 10:38
 
Mad Max RW wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 10:14:
UHD wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:56:
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:00:
Considering occupy was gutted from within by sjw's, and GG is refusing to let them control the narrative perhaps you're just reading into it far too much.

I love how SJWs are your bogeymen. They're everywhere, man, crawling out of the woodwork while you play DotA2 and disturbing your video game time. You can't get five minutes' peace without some SJW breaking into your house to call you a manhater. Seriously, the nerve!

You (and the few other whiteknights left here) clearly feel threatened by trying to diminish the argument with ad hominem nonsense. Run out the clock until people move on. But they aren't moving on because the majority is tired of hypocritical ideologues who find meaning in life by bullying others. Their biggest mistake was picking a fight with people who have the means to fight back. Deny. Deflect. Diminish. It's not working this time and you know it.

I wonder if you can even go back to ranting about Christianity, the Tea Party, banks, businesses, anything and everything related to America, or straight white males without everyone rolling their eyes in disgust. It's the same copy and paste rhetorical bullshit. Run to Kotaku or RPS or one of the other internet sanctuaries, because you're finished.

That's rich.
You're always whining about how these boogymen, be it "libtards" or "SJWs" or "white knights" or "victims" are trying to censor you or keep you down, even though none are.

Which is fun. Because you keep acting as if you're a victim of people that think they're victims.
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 10:37
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 10:37
Sep 26, 2014, 10:37
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:00:
Beamer wrote on Sep 25, 2014, 22:27:
The guy I responded to in the quote you singled me out on said it was about reviews.

So you're changing goalposts. Nice.
No I'm not changing goal posts. It was people who jumped the gun and believe it was reviews--this is what happens when people don't research something. It was always about what I said, you don't want to believe that fine.

Then again, I *could* change the goal posts and be perfectly okay with it. After all the anti-gg side, has been doing nothing but that, right.

NKD wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 06:23:
No one even knows what they are arguing about or for anymore. Even here on Blue's trying to follow the conversation is nigh impossible. Are we arguing about sexism? Is it about de-facto censorship? Is it journalistic integrity? Is it global warming? Are CEOs paid too much? Coke vs. Pepsi?

This shit is more fractured and meaningless than Occupy Wall Street. Just another generic excuse for people to voice their favorite tangentially gaming-related gripe and rabble rabble rabble.

Face it, this issue is so muddied that no productive conversation can come out of it. None. It's been tainted, soiled, and ruined by everyone who wants to co-opt the conversation for their own agenda.
Considering occupy was gutted from within by sjw's, and GG is refusing to let them control the narrative perhaps you're just reading into it far too much.

Sorry man, here's how the conversation went.
Guy A: It's about reviews
Me: Can you show me a review that was tainted
You: BEAMER YOU IDIOT, IT'S NOT ABOUT REVIEWS!

I never even said it was, so getting angry at me for responding to someone is the very definition of changing goalposts. He set a goalpost. I responded to it. You freaked out at me for it. Not him, me. And moved the goalpost in doing so.
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 10:14
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 10:14
Sep 26, 2014, 10:14
 
UHD wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:56:
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:00:
Considering occupy was gutted from within by sjw's, and GG is refusing to let them control the narrative perhaps you're just reading into it far too much.

I love how SJWs are your bogeymen. They're everywhere, man, crawling out of the woodwork while you play DotA2 and disturbing your video game time. You can't get five minutes' peace without some SJW breaking into your house to call you a manhater. Seriously, the nerve!

You (and the few other whiteknights left here) clearly feel threatened by trying to diminish the argument with ad hominem nonsense. Run out the clock until people move on. But they aren't moving on because the majority is tired of hypocritical ideologues who find meaning in life by bullying others. Their biggest mistake was picking a fight with people who have the means to fight back. Deny. Deflect. Diminish. It's not working this time and you know it.

I wonder if you can even go back to ranting about Christianity, the Tea Party, banks, businesses, anything and everything related to America, or straight white males without everyone rolling their eyes in disgust. It's the same copy and paste rhetorical bullshit. Run to Kotaku or RPS or one of the other internet sanctuaries, because you're finished.
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 09:56
UHD
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 09:56
Sep 26, 2014, 09:56
UHD
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 09:00:
Considering occupy was gutted from within by sjw's, and GG is refusing to let them control the narrative perhaps you're just reading into it far too much.

I love how SJWs are your bogeymen. They're everywhere, man, crawling out of the woodwork while you play DotA2 and disturbing your video game time. You can't get five minutes' peace without some SJW breaking into your house to call you a manhater. Seriously, the nerve!
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Sep 26, 2014, 09:00
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Sep 26, 2014, 09:00
 
Beamer wrote on Sep 25, 2014, 22:27:
The guy I responded to in the quote you singled me out on said it was about reviews.

So you're changing goalposts. Nice.
No I'm not changing goal posts. It was people who jumped the gun and believe it was reviews--this is what happens when people don't research something. It was always about what I said, you don't want to believe that fine.

Then again, I *could* change the goal posts and be perfectly okay with it. After all the anti-gg side, has been doing nothing but that, right.

NKD wrote on Sep 26, 2014, 06:23:
No one even knows what they are arguing about or for anymore. Even here on Blue's trying to follow the conversation is nigh impossible. Are we arguing about sexism? Is it about de-facto censorship? Is it journalistic integrity? Is it global warming? Are CEOs paid too much? Coke vs. Pepsi?

This shit is more fractured and meaningless than Occupy Wall Street. Just another generic excuse for people to voice their favorite tangentially gaming-related gripe and rabble rabble rabble.

Face it, this issue is so muddied that no productive conversation can come out of it. None. It's been tainted, soiled, and ruined by everyone who wants to co-opt the conversation for their own agenda.
Considering occupy was gutted from within by sjw's, and GG is refusing to let them control the narrative perhaps you're just reading into it far too much.
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"For every human problem,
there is a neat, simple solution;
and it is always wrong."
--H.L. Mencken
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Re: Morning Interviews
Sep 26, 2014, 06:23
NKD
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Re: Morning Interviews Sep 26, 2014, 06:23
Sep 26, 2014, 06:23
NKD
 
No one even knows what they are arguing about or for anymore. Even here on Blue's trying to follow the conversation is nigh impossible. Are we arguing about sexism? Is it about de-facto censorship? Is it journalistic integrity? Is it global warming? Are CEOs paid too much? Coke vs. Pepsi?

This shit is more fractured and meaningless than Occupy Wall Street. Just another generic excuse for people to voice their favorite tangentially gaming-related gripe and rabble rabble rabble.

Face it, this issue is so muddied that no productive conversation can come out of it. None. It's been tainted, soiled, and ruined by everyone who wants to co-opt the conversation for their own agenda.
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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