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45. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 25, 2014, 07:30 InBlack
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 16:48:
InBlack wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 07:56:
So you understand the meaning but still choose to use it in a perojative manner, and your position is that National Socialism emerged as a solution to Marxism-Leninism. Wow...just Wow. Doge doesnt have this much Wow.
So let's see, an individual calls themselves thus, therefore it's a pejorative manner. Makes perfect since, in the land of political correctness. And I'm guessing you're not a student of history, not even in passing; otherwise you'd have figured that out.

You call yourself a student of history, and you can write that shit down with a straight face??? Really?
 
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44. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2014, 19:44 Beamer
 
Redmask wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 17:25:
No, I am not wasting anymore time on you as its clear you have nothing to offer here other than nitpicking.

You're missing my point entirely.
It was a compliment to you, and a reminder that certain words void an entire argument, like anyone using "thugs and animals" to discuss Ferguson.
 
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43. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2014, 19:40 Verno
 
I've only briefly read about this but wow what a mess. Ignoring all of the sex tripe, I can't believe she issued a DMCA for a video that was critical of her and tried to use a single picture that she uses at several publicly available sources as the reason. She gets very vague about the rape and bodily harm threats which all came from anonymous sources conveniently. She also claims to have been mugged once and has essentially begged for money several times on twitter. This girl is a cretin and a perfect example of why people can't just blindly trust these things. Hopefully Kotaku will think about this before their next diatribe of how badly women have it in the industry.  
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42. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2014, 17:25 Redmask
 
No, I am not wasting anymore time on you as its clear you have nothing to offer here other than nitpicking.  
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41. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2014, 17:24 Beamer
 
Redmask wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 17:15:
As if you're in a place to judge me here. Maybe before you start making assumptions next time you should realize that many of those people use that term for themselves, quite literally the people in this story. It's funny how its not important when its a woman but when people make broad assumptions about mens behavior we get countless editorials and lectures instead of it being a few mentally challenged idiots misrepresenting others. And before you go there, I have nothing to do with MRA bullshit, the inherent hypocrisy of this whole situation just stinks to high heaven.

If you don't think its important then no one is asking you stick around. I happen to think someone using their gender to both curry favor, silence critics and literally damage their own supposed cause is worth talking about.

Can you please link me to someone unironically using SJW in a non-perjorative way?
I can't find it anywhere.



Lastly, come on. You're now getting defensive. Women don't make broad assumptions about men. They discuss the things they deal with every single day. Men take issue to it when they assume they're being lumped into it. Which you're doing. Stop thinking it always includes you and look at what many men around you are doing.

I know you have nothing to do with the MRA bullshit, which is why you using the term surprises me.
And, again, I only called you out on using that term. Not your opinions on other things. You keep bringing those opinions up, as if I was judging you on that. I was just trying to point out that using a term like "SJW" makes it very easy to completely destroy any point you're making by lumping yourself in with people like Mad Max.

 
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40. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2014, 17:15 Redmask
 
As if you're in a place to judge me here. Maybe before you start making assumptions next time you should realize that many of those people use that term for themselves, quite literally the people in this story. It's funny how its not important when its a woman but when people make broad assumptions about mens behavior we get countless editorials and lectures instead of it being a few mentally challenged idiots misrepresenting others. And before you go there, I have nothing to do with MRA bullshit, the inherent hypocrisy of this whole situation just stinks to high heaven.

If you don't think its important then no one is asking you stick around. I happen to think someone using their gender to both curry favor, silence critics and literally damage their own supposed cause is worth talking about.
 
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39. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2014, 17:02 Beamer
 
Redmask wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 16:40:
I give up, you didn't even bother to read up on this before coming in here and talking to me about being lumped in with anyone.

Talk about taking the fucking piss, what a waste of time.

No, because what I called you out on was using the term "SJW." I said you were a better poster than that, as the other posters using it are, well, not exactly the kindest, most thoughtful or compassionate people.

I didn't say your opinion was wrong.
I didn't say you were dumb.
I didn't say you were a bad person.

I said I expected better of you than to use a term like that. It's a term mostly used by the MRA people. You don't strike me as one of them.

I did not comment at all on this situation because, frankly, it doesn't seem like a terribly important one. Someone has emotional problems, film at 11.
 
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38. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 22, 2014, 16:49 Mashiki Amiketo
 
Beamer wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 13:10:
Hell, even Urban Dictionary defines "social justice warrior" as a pejorative term.

That's nice, Urban dictionary is about as trustworthy and CNN in terms of definitions and facts. But if you're not paying attention to the sjw's, that's tough being that they do call themselves that. Unless of course you're implying that they're "putting themselves down" on purpose.
 
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37. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 22, 2014, 16:48 Mashiki Amiketo
 
InBlack wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 07:56:
So you understand the meaning but still choose to use it in a perojative manner, and your position is that National Socialism emerged as a solution to Marxism-Leninism. Wow...just Wow. Doge doesnt have this much Wow.
So let's see, an individual calls themselves thus, therefore it's a pejorative manner. Makes perfect since, in the land of political correctness. And I'm guessing you're not a student of history, not even in passing; otherwise you'd have figured that out.
 
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36. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2014, 16:40 Redmask
 
I give up, you didn't even bother to read up on this before coming in here and talking to me about being lumped in with anyone.

Talk about taking the fucking piss, what a waste of time.
 
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35. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2014, 16:31 Beamer
 
Redmask wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 16:18:
There have been several stories and editorials related to female presence in the gaming industry and the supposed hostility they face, several of which you commented including the rape threats related one. This was an alarming example of people just assuming that men are automatically guilty. This woman manipulated both her fans and the media using her gender, made false accusations, invented threats to her personal safety then tried to censor people when she was found out.

At the very least I'd expect some fucking rumination on how far back this is going to set things and that maybe there was a lesson to be learned here. But no instead you just tried to quibble about terminology and bait other posters. And yes, there are people who call themselves social justice warriors, including Zoe and her ex who exposed much of this.

An alarming amount of people assume women are automatically lying, even though that happens in an infinitesimally tiny amount of cases.

But now you're the one bringing this into broader territory that it shouldn't be. One woman ends up having some mental disorders, and is accused of sleeping with people in exchange for coverage (no proof of that, by the way), and now you're making wide sweeping statements.

What were her false accusations? I haven't paid attention. Again, I don't know who she is and, frankly, couldn't care less. One moron having an opinion doesn't make that opinion wrong.
 
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34. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2014, 16:18 Redmask
 
There have been several stories and editorials related to female presence in the gaming industry and the supposed hostility they face, several of which you commented including the rape threats related one. This was an alarming example of people just assuming that men are automatically guilty. This woman manipulated both her fans and the media using her gender, made false accusations, invented threats to her personal safety then tried to censor people when she was found out.

At the very least I'd expect some fucking rumination on how far back this is going to set things and that maybe there was a lesson to be learned here. But no instead you just tried to quibble about terminology and bait other posters. And yes, there are people who call themselves social justice warriors, including Zoe and her ex who exposed much of this.
 
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33. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2014, 15:41 Beamer
 
Redmask wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 14:08:
For the third time, the people following this person have used that term to describe themselves and no one fucking cares because there is a much bigger story going on here that you are ignoring because its inconvenient to your views.

1) I still think you're wrong that anyone describes themselves as such
2) How is this story "inconvenient?" One person has some serious emotional problems. One person. So what? How is an entire viewpoint aimed at 53% of the population get shattered by one person? One person that, prior to this, was never even discussed on this website. Seriously, you accused me of being on the wrong side of her editorials, but she's not once been mentioned on Blues prior. I'd never heard her name. I'm guessing you probably hadn't, either. Who fucking knew, or cared, who she was?
 
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32. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2014, 14:08 Redmask
 
For the third time, the people following this person have used that term to describe themselves and no one fucking cares because there is a much bigger story going on here that you are ignoring because its inconvenient to your views.  
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31. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2014, 13:10 Beamer
 
Hell, even Urban Dictionary defines "social justice warrior" as a pejorative term.

I don't think anyone uses it as a badge of honor. It's just a buzzword people try to use to defeat arguments. Kind of like how many people here don't believe you can think women deserve any kind of fair treatment unless you're trying to sleep with them.
 
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30. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2014, 12:48 Mad Max RW
 
And Beamer deflects once again. "Misogynist". "Sociopathic". Can we ban him already? It's the same shit with him day in and day out. He doesn't like what you say and you're a misogynistic sociopath racist homophobe.  
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29. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2014, 12:28 Beamer
 
Mad Max RW wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 08:28:
And the same people come to the rescue. Beamer is so predictable I can write his posts for him. Maybe you guys would like it better at Kotaku or RPS.

Wait. I'm the predictable one? You're the one writing all the constant sociopathic libertarian stuff.
 
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28. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2014, 12:27 Beamer
 
Redmask wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 08:56:
Beamer wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 00:44:
I've only ever heard that term used by super conservative misogynist people like you.

Sounds like deflection because you've landed on the wrong side of several Zoe Quinn related editorials and other bullshit that is now coming to light.

Have I?
I've never heard her name before.
 
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27. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2014, 08:56 Redmask
 
Beamer wrote on Aug 22, 2014, 00:44:
I've only ever heard that term used by super conservative misogynist people like you.

Sounds like deflection because you've landed on the wrong side of several Zoe Quinn related editorials and other bullshit that is now coming to light.
 
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26. Re: etc. Aug 22, 2014, 08:28 Mad Max RW
 
And the same people come to the rescue. Beamer is so predictable I can write his posts for him. Maybe you guys would like it better at Kotaku or RPS.  
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