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Out of the Blue

The discussion of my Monday night co-op play sessions resulted in a couple of readers expressing interest in seeing some sort of video of the proceedings. A few of us were online last night and we discussed the pros and cons of recording ourselves, and though there are doubts whether we are entertaining enough or good enough players to make this worth watching, we are considering it, realizing if there is an audience for endless Big Lebowski and O Brother, Where Art Thou? quotes interspersed with economic arguments between a socialist and an anarchist, then this could be the next big thing. If you have any thoughts, suggestions, or pleas for sanity to reconsider this, please feel free to share them.

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31. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 2, 2014, 13:45 jdreyer
 
xXBatmanXx wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 22:24:
jdreyer wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 14:57:
xXBatmanXx wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 10:22:
Do it.

Also, Bats, what's up with the logo change?

Oh, responded in the other one - just feeling old.....saw a story over at Destructo about "what was the most influential game in your life". The responses were laughable...most started with super nes games...so I guess they are all youngins over there. I posted multiple games, starting with commodore 64 up to early PC stuff....

NICE. Yeah, some of those old C64 games were great. Still have fond memories of Impossible Mission, MULE, Archon, 7 Cities of Gold, Racing Destruction Set, and the sublime Realm of Impossibility. Wow, most of those games were made by Electronic Arts. Whatever happened to that company? They used to make such great innovative games.
 
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30. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 2, 2014, 12:48 Creston
 
SlimRam wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 17:14:
Air braking.


In vacuum?

he might be referring to the thing they did in the movie 2010 when they had to slow down and basically skimmed off the planet's atmosphere it was kind of awesome because the whole ship was shaking and everybody was shaking and shitting themselves I thought that was one of the coolest parts of the movie.

Trying to do that when you're going near lightspeed would not be a Smart Idea(tm).
 
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29. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 2, 2014, 12:47 Creston
 
1badmf wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 17:11:
from what i've read they have no idea how it works. it was built first, and then the theories started coming in afterwards. NASA's own paper specifically mentions it doesn't want to get into theorizing and is just a proof of concept of the machine itself.

Well, at NASA, yes. This theory has been around for awhile, I think I first heard about it somewhere in the mid to late 2000s. It's basically a derivation of the Ion Thruster principle (though that still requires a small amount of mass to be used as propellant) that they started messing with and came up with this.
 
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28. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 2, 2014, 12:44 Creston
 
xXBatmanXx wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 22:24:
Oh, responded in the other one - just feeling old.....saw a story over at Destructo about "what was the most influential game in your life". The responses were laughable...most started with super nes games...so I guess they are all youngins over there. I posted multiple games, starting with commodore 64 up to early PC stuff....

Damn, "influential". That's a hard one to come up with...

I'm gonna go with Ultima 3:Exodus, maybe. That was about the first game that ever made me go "Holy crap, there is a version available that looks better?" and made me get a new system for it. (I was playing the C64 version, got an Amiga for it, IIRC.) I also later bought it for my PC.

If I go with the game that really made me think about what I was doing and why I was doing it (in game), it'd be Ultima 4.
 
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27. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 2, 2014, 03:20 xXBatmanXx
 
Redmask wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 23:09:
SNES games predate Quake

Looking back many C64 games were pretty terrible too. I think the most influential game of my life was probably Simant on the black and white Mac. There were some great console games though, Nintendo especially made some games that have influenced so many others.

Taken out of their timeline, yea, they are terrible. But when you were sitting there LOAD "*",8,1 and watching it boot, it was pretty damn awesome. Even Sears and other mall stores had walls of Commodore64 game boxes.

I didn't say Quake was before SNES, I was saying I thought it was funny that the most influential game for them, or some of them saying the first game they played, was on a SNES.

I went from Commodore, almost every console, had a pc in the home earlier than anyone I knew (both parents worked at Cargill and one of them was in IT), and had my first computer in my room when I was 14.

Anyway. Quake and Quake 2 is what hooked me. Even after having 90+ NES games, countless other consoles and games, I wasn't TRULY hooked on gaming until competitive Quake stuff. I remember when MrGrosser and I were young and he would laugh at me when I would say "how come we can't play all of these games together - how come everything is solo". I guess I really missed my opportunity to cash in at a young age.

Anyway. It has been great to be in a golden time of processors to be able to grow up and go through adulthood and play such a vast array of devices and machines and yet still really enjoy a great pinball game. Seems so long ago that I would run (bike and eventually drive) home from school to try and be the first to get 1 of 3 nodes on the local BBS and take my turn at LORD and TW. Then grab a pepsi and play a console game or two before getting yelled at about schoolwork, dinner time, chores, and eventually bed time.

It is hard to say what 1 game did it for me. Hell I still try and get my hands on a Mr. DO! arcade. We have a Ms. PacMan (not the new style) cocktail table that gets used often. I would love to add TRON, Centipede, a few pinball machines, and a mega loaded Golden Tee would be nice. I do find that my memories of playing the games and enjoying them is better than going back and playing them. Most of the games don't age well compared to what we have now. I remember it taking me MONTHS to beat Zelda (if I ever did....I must have) and now you can get through it in 5-8 hours.

lets see...short list: Pegasus, Bruce Lee, Elevator Action, Mr DO, Double Dragon I and II, Hard Drivin (sit down), Bruger Time, KRULL, Joust, SMB, Mario Brothers, Gauntlet (arcade), Tecmo Bowl, RC ProAM, Ivan Ironman Stuart Racing, Sprint, Tetris (Tengen only), Tyson, Local BBS', SSF, Faery Tale, Mario Kart, DOOM, Mechwarrior, Quake, Quake 2 mods, Half Life, BF, BF2. (I could add probably 10 more)

Those are the big ones, almost in order too! With the big influence coming from AQ2 competitive and BF2 competitive - without those 2, I probably would have let it go at about that time and not been as into it as I am now.

Anyway. Having our son made me think of all of this recently, then seeing that article, and I hope to encourage him to play old school games before jumping into Halo 44 or "game of the year 243". Sucks there aren't arcades anymore - there is that one in Vegas, but it is 18+. (he already likes watching his mum play Ms. PacMan. )

In my own little mind, I guess having him play games where you had to think, explore, and figure out stuff (any of those Quest type games - King's, Police, etc) rather than rail it through autosaves every 2 minutes.....I just think there is development and critical thinking there somewhere. It is cool to watch my two nephews play Minecraft though.....how they decide to do things is impressive at times.

Anywhoooo. Just a middle aged gamer getting through life.....

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26. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 1, 2014, 23:09 Redmask
 
SNES games predate Quake

Looking back many C64 games were pretty terrible too. I think the most influential game of my life was probably Simant on the black and white Mac. There were some great console games though, Nintendo especially made some games that have influenced so many others.
 
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25. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 1, 2014, 22:24 xXBatmanXx
 
jdreyer wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 14:57:
xXBatmanXx wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 10:22:
Do it.

Also, Bats, what's up with the logo change?

Oh, responded in the other one - just feeling old.....saw a story over at Destructo about "what was the most influential game in your life". The responses were laughable...most started with super nes games...so I guess they are all youngins over there. I posted multiple games, starting with commodore 64 up to early PC stuff....
 
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24. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 1, 2014, 20:35 Cutter
 
Draugr wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 18:33:
SlimRam wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 17:14:
Air braking.


In vacuum?

he might be referring to the thing they did in the movie 2010 when they had to slow down and basically skimmed off the planet's atmosphere it was kind of awesome because the whole ship was shaking and everybody was shaking and shitting themselves I thought that was one of the coolest parts of the movie.


Aerobraking is the term.

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23. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 1, 2014, 18:33 Draugr
 
SlimRam wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 17:14:
Air braking.


In vacuum?

he might be referring to the thing they did in the movie 2010 when they had to slow down and basically skimmed off the planet's atmosphere it was kind of awesome because the whole ship was shaking and everybody was shaking and shitting themselves I thought that was one of the coolest parts of the movie.


Aerobraking is the term.

KSP for life!
 
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22. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 1, 2014, 17:14 SlimRam
 
Air braking.


In vacuum?

he might be referring to the thing they did in the movie 2010 when they had to slow down and basically skimmed off the planet's atmosphere it was kind of awesome because the whole ship was shaking and everybody was shaking and shitting themselves I thought that was one of the coolest parts of the movie.
 
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21. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 1, 2014, 17:11 1badmf
 
Creston wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 12:59:
Tipsy McStagger wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 12:27:
Am I the only one who really wants this EmDrive to actually work? This is probably the best news i've seen in months.

It works. It's only been the US that somehow still seemed to believe it doesn't work, even though it was already validated more than once.

The theory has been around basically since the 60s, but it took awhile for man to build a working prototype. A similar concept exists for a drive that works by pushing aways photons, IIRC.

It gives only a tiny, tiny amount of thrust, but once you're out of the gravity well, it's plenty to propel basically anything. And since you can keep thrusting indefinitely, you could theoretically get up to quite near light speed with it. (I'd just hate to have to sit there and wait the 7000 years it'd take to slow back down again. )

from what i've read they have no idea how it works. it was built first, and then the theories started coming in afterwards. NASA's own paper specifically mentions it doesn't want to get into theorizing and is just a proof of concept of the machine itself.
 
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20. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 1, 2014, 16:24 Creston
 
Cutter wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 14:51:
Creston wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 12:59:
Tipsy McStagger wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 12:27:
Am I the only one who really wants this EmDrive to actually work? This is probably the best news i've seen in months.

It works. It's only been the US that somehow still seemed to believe it doesn't work, even though it was already validated more than once.

The theory has been around basically since the 60s, but it took awhile for man to build a working prototype. A similar concept exists for a drive that works by pushing aways photons, IIRC.

It gives only a tiny, tiny amount of thrust, but once you're out of the gravity well, it's plenty to propel basically anything. And since you can keep thrusting indefinitely, you could theoretically get up to quite near light speed with it. (I'd just hate to have to sit there and wait the 7000 years it'd take to slow back down again. )

Air braking.


In vacuum?
 
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19. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 1, 2014, 15:38 jonbly
 
> Different Firefly.

Rufus T?

Aw...
 
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18. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 1, 2014, 15:19 jdreyer
 
Speaking of Firefly, read this article on IO9 last night. It's all about how Joss cast the show. Pretty cool, if you're a fan of the show.  
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17. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 1, 2014, 14:57 Tipsy McStagger
 
Creston wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 12:59:
It gives only a tiny, tiny amount of thrust, but once you're out of the gravity well, it's plenty to propel basically anything. And since you can keep thrusting indefinitely, you could theoretically get up to quite near light speed with it. (I'd just hate to have to sit there and wait the 7000 years it'd take to slow back down again. )

I sure hope we see this being tested in space pretty soon. Also, this is exciting because if it does work, it will lead to more research and improvements on these schools of thought.
 
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16. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 1, 2014, 14:57 jdreyer
 
xXBatmanXx wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 10:22:
Do it.

Also, Bats, what's up with the logo change?
 
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15. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 1, 2014, 14:57 jdreyer
 
xXBatmanXx wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 10:22:
Do it.

Seconded! (well Fourthed, actually)
 
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14. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 1, 2014, 14:51 Cutter
 
Creston wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 12:59:
Tipsy McStagger wrote on Aug 1, 2014, 12:27:
Am I the only one who really wants this EmDrive to actually work? This is probably the best news i've seen in months.

It works. It's only been the US that somehow still seemed to believe it doesn't work, even though it was already validated more than once.

The theory has been around basically since the 60s, but it took awhile for man to build a working prototype. A similar concept exists for a drive that works by pushing aways photons, IIRC.

It gives only a tiny, tiny amount of thrust, but once you're out of the gravity well, it's plenty to propel basically anything. And since you can keep thrusting indefinitely, you could theoretically get up to quite near light speed with it. (I'd just hate to have to sit there and wait the 7000 years it'd take to slow back down again. )

Air braking.

 
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13. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 1, 2014, 13:50 MisterBenn
 
I think you'd be surprised how watchable it is for some friends to just be enjoying a game and sharing their natural banter. Like was mentioned yesterday, things like that are entertaining to watch and unwind. It's definitely not required to be experts at anything you play, but it can be frustrating to watch people play when they don't know the basics of a game at all.

Most important of all in my opinion would be to use a setup that is as low maintenance as possible if you choose to have a go. Probably just capture the one screen and the voices at the beginning, and just use some software to cut broad chunks out of your footage if after a session you think certain sequences or matches are not worth putting out there.

My opinion with this stuff is that low key is best. YouTube is already saturated with people screaming and trying to force epic things to happen every moment. Natural friendship dynamics and in-game rivalry are already enough to entertain. Pop culture references don't hinder at all! I'd keep the presentation style as low key as possible, with the aim of not disrupting the natural flow of how you all behave when you play. You don't need to invite self-imposed pressure to entertain and you definitely don't want your shared gaming time ending up feeling like work!

You have a bit of a help up front due to Bluesnews too, you already have a place to announce any uploads you make. Since you have an existing relationsip with your community you can be assured that some people will watch and will care enough to give some good feedback.
 
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12. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 1, 2014, 13:38 SlimRam
 
Blue, I say go for it!

Hell, you could even intersperse various cooking recipes and show how they're done, IMAGINE:

'Grillin' & Killin' with The Blue Crew!'

Just make sure everybody is good and loaded when recording

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