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Steam Top 10

Valve offers the following list of the 10 bestselling games on Steam last week:

  1. Divinity: Original Sin
  2. Dark Souls II Season Pass
  3. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Legendary Edition
  4. DayZ
  5. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
  6. Planet Explorers
  7. Dead Island Franchise Pack
  8. Dungeon Defenders Eternity
  9. The Forest
  10. The Elder Scrolls Online

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24. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 28, 2014, 15:14 OpticNerve
 
Verno wrote on Jul 28, 2014, 10:45:
Rogues are only really good for taking down a boss quickly but my 2H Warrior can do that too and actually take hits. My mages are ridiculous, they can CC everything, clear the field and rarely ever take a hit.

Rogues are playable but not really optimal compared to other classes IMO. But of course its an RPG so do whatever fancies you

Pretty much this. Rangers are also a bit underwhelming but can still be useful due to the abundance of elemental arrows, basically making them Mages-lite. My 2h melee hybrid guy's a lot of fun though.

It's easy enough to make an overpowered party (1 melee tank, everyone else a mage or hybrid) and turn battles into a cakewalk, but part of the fun for me is making a diverse party (2h melee, sword and board, ranger/thief and mage) and finding various ways to win battles with that composition.

As it's been said by another poster, balance isn't good between the classes but that's like saying that the Dark Souls games have a horrible combat system because of the obvious balance issues with the various classes. There are very few RPGs in general where the classes are balanced across the board. There'll ALWAYS be one or two really strong classes in an RPG and one or two underwhelming classes. Hopefully the developers will try and balance the classes as much as possible but very few ever do. That still doesn't change that there might be a really great combat system in place underneath it all and that's the case for me with D:OS.

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23. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 28, 2014, 12:57 sauron
 
nin wrote on Jul 27, 2014, 21:30:
CJ_Parker wrote on Jul 27, 2014, 21:10:
Redmask wrote on Jul 27, 2014, 19:58:
It's no Baldur's Gate

True. It's much better because it doesn't suck like BG does!

See, now that's a 6 outta 10, maybe even a 7. Ozmodan should take notes.


The main advantage of BG is that Mrs. Sauron and I can play it on my Nexus 7, while lying in bed in our Evil Pajamas of Doom.

Other than that, well, you know... it's OK.
 
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22. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 28, 2014, 10:45 Verno
 
Rogues are only really good for taking down a boss quickly but my 2H Warrior can do that too and actually take hits. My mages are ridiculous, they can CC everything, clear the field and rarely ever take a hit.

Rogues are playable but not really optimal compared to other classes IMO. But of course its an RPG so do whatever fancies you
 
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21. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 28, 2014, 10:30 mch
 

I played a rogue in early release, and while they certainly have low AP costs...I felt like the positioning requirements (while obviously necessary) made them a little more difficult to work with.
 
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20. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 28, 2014, 08:26 Angrius Maximis
 
A ton of people that bought number 10 will feel really stupid in about.....right now  
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19. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 28, 2014, 07:09 Redmask
 
Quinn wrote on Jul 28, 2014, 04:27:
Rogues suck, huh? There's only one character in my group that can kill an enemy during his first turn and he's also always the first character to move when combat starts.

Then he does nothing for the next 10 turns because all of his skills have ridiculous cooldowns. Mages are absurd compared to other characters. Yes you can use a Rogue but in almost every situation a Mage would do it better. All you need is a single tank then you can just deck out your party in mages. I tried my best with my Ranger and Scoundrel, trying to use their CCs and other abilities to stay relevant but it became apparent I could just blow down the house with mages instead of wasting the time.

I like Divinity OS but the class system is very poorly balanced in combat.
 
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18. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 28, 2014, 04:52 Jerykk
 
PHJF wrote on Jul 27, 2014, 23:43:
Fantastic combat system? Non-mage classes stop gaining new skills after 13-15, and what few skills they have are either useless or redundant.

Mages always have more abilities than other classes. That's been the case in every RPG ever. As for the viability of non-mages, they're plenty useful. Fighters are great for tanking and keeping enemies distracted while your mages deal damage from afar. Rogues are great for neutralizing high-priority targets right off the bat and have plenty of versatility (charm ftw). Their ability to teleport is super handy outside of combat as well, allowing to reach areas you otherwise wouldn't be able to reach.
 
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17. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 28, 2014, 04:27 Quinn
 
Rogues suck, huh? There's only one character in my group that can kill an enemy during his first turn and he's also always the first character to move when combat starts. That character is a rogue. He has crazy lots of AP and AP regen, does crazy amount of backstab damage and can stun, knockdown, charm, blind and weaken.  
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16. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 27, 2014, 23:55 OpticNerve
 
None of my character's classes have been pure classes and I often dip into other skills so I haven't had a problem with that. The game does have balance issues (such Mages being OP and Rogues being crap) but that doesn't change how fun the combat system is for me.  
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15. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 27, 2014, 23:43 PHJF
 
Fantastic combat system? Non-mage classes stop gaining new skills after 13-15, and what few skills they have are either useless or redundant.  
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14. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 27, 2014, 23:28 OpticNerve
 
Yeah, in Divinity, Mages are definitely overpowered with certain elemental combinations and status effects do pretty much rule (ie. melee's knockdown skill). That being said, I'm enjoying the hell out of the combat system and working out a strategy that decimates an enemy party is part of the fun for me. It's probably my favorite turn-based combat system that I've played in an RPG so far and I really do hope that more studios see how awesome turn-based combat can be in that genre.

Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 were fantastic games in regards to it's characters and plotline but I always thought that it's combat system wasn't all that great and that goes for the Dragon Age games as well. It always felt distant somehow and less like you're right there in the thick of combat and more like you're some omnipotent general controlling troops like an RTS with a pause button. But that's just me.

I can't really compare BG1/2 and Divinity: OS since they're apples and oranges to me. The Baldur's Gate games have memorable characters and an enthralling plotline with a drab combat system and a very static world whereas Divinity is a large playground of a world with an insane amount of interaction and a fantastic combat system. Unfortunately it also has completely forgettable characters as well as a drab plotline.

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13. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 27, 2014, 22:58 Jerykk
 
Divinity isn't that tough (at least on Normal difficulty) once you get past the early game. As with all party-based RPGs, it's all about crowd control and Divinity has plenty of that. Every class has a way to stun, knock down, freeze, blind, slow, petrify, charm, teleport or otherwise immobilize enemies. One could argue that the game would be more tactical if there were fewer ways to CC enemies.

That said, I'm 80+ hours in and still loving the game, overpowered CC be damned. Definitely liking it more than either of the BG games.
 
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12. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 27, 2014, 22:50 Icewind
 
Ozmodan wrote on Jul 27, 2014, 18:10:
Personally I feel ripped off buying Divinity: Original Sin. I just do not see what people are raving about. Even the kids thought it was hokie. Funny thing is I do like rpg games too.

Trying to compare this game to Baldur's gate series is a travesty, those games, old as they are, were much better than this game.

Having beat it finally just a week ago and spending a good 80 hours on it, I can see where people wouldn't like it and would prefer BG. BG is a simpler, more friendly CRPG that doesn't beat you over the head for making mistakes. I've gone through BG2 at least a dozen times in my life and each time I do the same thing: Cast haste, open with a fireball, cast defensive harmony, and let the AI win for me...and this is on Hard, not core rules. They're easy games with no real strategy except Haste+DH+FB+Whirlwind=WIN. That's it.

Original Sin requires a lot of subtlety. You need different magics. You need debuffs. You need status effects. You need special items for special enemies. You need a marksman who can use special arrows to debilitate enemies. It's crazy sometimes.

Original Sin is a lot like ToEE. It's brutal, but lovely at the same time.
 
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11. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 27, 2014, 22:05 HorrorScope
 
I like it more than Bladurs.  
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10. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 27, 2014, 21:30 nin
 
CJ_Parker wrote on Jul 27, 2014, 21:10:
Redmask wrote on Jul 27, 2014, 19:58:
It's no Baldur's Gate

True. It's much better because it doesn't suck like BG does!

See, now that's a 6 outta 10, maybe even a 7. Ozmodan should take notes.

 
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9. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 27, 2014, 21:10 CJ_Parker
 
Redmask wrote on Jul 27, 2014, 19:58:
It's no Baldur's Gate

True. It's much better because it doesn't suck like BG does!
 
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8. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 27, 2014, 19:58 Redmask
 
Ozmodan wrote on Jul 27, 2014, 18:10:
Personally I feel ripped off buying Divinity: Original Sin. I just do not see what people are raving about. Even the kids thought it was hokie. Funny thing is I do like rpg games too.

Trying to compare this game to Baldur's gate series is a travesty, those games, old as they are, were much better than this game.

It's no Baldur's Gate but its a good enough throwback. I don't know how old your kids are but its not a kids game at all so I suspect you are just trolling.
 
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7. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 27, 2014, 19:16 Quinn
 
nin wrote on Jul 27, 2014, 18:15:
Ozmodan wrote on Jul 27, 2014, 18:10:
Personally I feel ripped off buying Divinity: Original Sin. I just do not see what people are raving about. Even the kids thought it was hokie. Funny thing is I do like rpg games too.

Trying to compare this game to Baldur's gate series is a travesty, those games, old as they are, were much better than this game.

Eh, I'll give that a 2/10...not much effort.


Is that about the game or his verdict on the game? Being a man of few words really isn't as cool as some here make you believe it is.

If you mean the first, then I think you haven't even played it for obvious reasons other than that the game is in no way a 2/10. If it's the latter, which I presume it is, then I tend to agree with you.

Ozmodan, it takes a while to get into the game. Grab the quest in the first settlement and get the hell out of there and kill some baddies while heading toward the lighthouse in the west. You'll finish many of said quests out there, get new ones and get a good feel of the game. The game will most probably have you bound to it soon -- just give it a chance to do so.
 
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6. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 27, 2014, 18:15 nin
 
Ozmodan wrote on Jul 27, 2014, 18:10:
Personally I feel ripped off buying Divinity: Original Sin. I just do not see what people are raving about. Even the kids thought it was hokie. Funny thing is I do like rpg games too.

Trying to compare this game to Baldur's gate series is a travesty, those games, old as they are, were much better than this game.

Eh, I'll give that a 2/10...not much effort.

 
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5. Re: Steam Top 10 Jul 27, 2014, 18:10 Ozmodan
 
Personally I feel ripped off buying Divinity: Original Sin. I just do not see what people are raving about. Even the kids thought it was hokie. Funny thing is I do like rpg games too.

Trying to compare this game to Baldur's gate series is a travesty, those games, old as they are, were much better than this game.
 
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