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12. Re: Morning Tech Bits Mar 21, 2014, 21:48 JeffD
 
Mikus_Aurelius wrote on Mar 21, 2014, 20:37:
Qbex . wrote on Mar 21, 2014, 11:49:
On the flipside Intel without competition on high end, I expect bonkers prices for those chips.

Intel has been without high end competition for awhile. I think the lack of demand for PCs is the bigger price control than AMD. I remember buying a nice i5 for under $200 that had much better game performance than anything AMD offered at the time. The good news is that their mid-range processors will probably continue to be kickass and affordable.

Mostly "this". AMD seems to be cementing their foothold on budget desktops and trying to flesh out the road map they are going to take in the future to take in intel, using of course the control over consoles as ammunition. INTEL on the other hand while owns the high end pc market, is struggling with a crumbling desktop market that makes it hard to net large profits. Instead they are perfecting their haswell chips to power the most powerful ultrabooks and tablets which are making lots of money.

Unfortunately while in the past, games are what fueled the need for PCs to become bigger and faster, now non gamers are creating a demand in ultra portables and the chip market is shifting.
 
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11. Re: Morning Tech Bits Mar 21, 2014, 20:37 Mikus_Aurelius
 
Qbex . wrote on Mar 21, 2014, 11:49:
On the flipside Intel without competition on high end, I expect bonkers prices for those chips.

Intel has been without high end competition for awhile. I think the lack of demand for PCs is the bigger price control than AMD. I remember buying a nice i5 for under $200 that had much better game performance than anything AMD offered at the time. The good news is that their mid-range processors will probably continue to be kickass and affordable.
 
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10. Re: Morning Tech Bits Mar 21, 2014, 16:53 jdreyer
 
Creston wrote on Mar 21, 2014, 11:53:
7 to 15 times? So Direct3D is actively destroying 700% of performance in games?

Somehow I find those claims fairly difficult to believe.

Yeah, it doesn't seem possible that DX is actually that unoptimized.
 
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9. Re: Morning Tech Bits Mar 21, 2014, 16:51 jdreyer
 
ForgedReality wrote on Mar 21, 2014, 10:33:
7-15 times fewer effects and eyecandy too, but who's counting?

Why do you hate vector graphics so much? Stop being a hater!

 
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8. Re: Morning Tech Bits Mar 21, 2014, 14:36 Fion
 
OpenGL can do just about everything Dx11 does, and some things it does dramatically better. One of them just so happens to be performance. I don't know about the '7-15' number, but it can be pretty dramatic.  
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7. Re: Morning Tech Bits Mar 21, 2014, 12:49 eRe4s3r
 
Creston wrote on Mar 21, 2014, 11:53:
7 to 15 times? So Direct3D is actively destroying 700% of performance in games?

Somehow I find those claims fairly difficult to believe.

Carmack said the same thing a few months back....
 
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6. Re: Morning Tech Bits Mar 21, 2014, 12:44 NegaDeath
 
Wow, and here I thought the supposed performance gains in driver updates were inflated.  
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5. Re: Morning Tech Bits Mar 21, 2014, 12:30 JeffD
 
ForgedReality wrote on Mar 21, 2014, 10:33:
7-15 times fewer effects and eyecandy too, but who's counting?

This made no sense. OPenGL does everything dx does, mainly when you consider all effects are shader based today.
 
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4. Re: Morning Tech Bits Mar 21, 2014, 11:53 Creston
 
7 to 15 times? So Direct3D is actively destroying 700% of performance in games?

Somehow I find those claims fairly difficult to believe.
 
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3. Re: Morning Tech Bits Mar 21, 2014, 11:49 Qbex .
 
Intel native 8 core, ddr4 , unlocked , overclock friendly IHS - all that-yes, please, that's my next platform upgrade, bring it on
On the flipside Intel without competition on high end, I expect bonkers prices for those chips.
 
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2. Re: Morning Tech Bits Mar 21, 2014, 10:33 ForgedReality
 
7-15 times fewer effects and eyecandy too, but who's counting?  
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1. Re: Morning Tech Bits Mar 21, 2014, 10:24 HorrorScope
 
7-15 times? I guess go big with the exaggeration or go home is their motto.

Mantle is getting maybe 10% after all the hype?

If they can do 2 times the performance it would be a huge hit.

But why not? Lets shoot the moon at 10x!
 
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