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John Carmack on Leaving id

John Carmack interview on USA Today talking with the id Software cofounder about his relatively new role at Oculus Rift (thanks Gamasutra). Along the way he explains why he left id, saying had id owner ZeniMax and Oculus been able to work out a deal, Wolfenstein: The New Order would have been shown by Oculus at CES, and DOOM 4 would have had a leg up on headset support. Here's more:

Another outcome of an Oculus-ZeniMax deal? Carmack would not have left id in November and would have continued working at both companies. "I would have been content probably staying there working with the people and technology that I know and the work we were doing," he says.

"But they couldn't come together on that which made me really sad. It was just unfortunate," Carmack says. "When it became clear that I wasn't going to have the opportunity to do any work on VR while at id software, I decided to not renew my contract."

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34. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 5, 2014, 20:57 Suppa7
 
Hump wrote on Feb 5, 2014, 00:37:
Once again, Lawyers fuck up everything that is good.

It amazes me that companies involved in the arts (music, games, film, etc) have to vett their creative vision to mindless human garbage who almost always are totally clueless to the needs/wants of the marketplace.

Cunts. Wall

Many developers themselves are idiots, you should really get a copy of Masters of doom.

There are tonnes of developers who are ACTUALLY the cause of why games end up sucking bad. It's not just the suits. If you doubt this, go look at Mass effect 3's ending. That ending alone was a creative decision made by some asshat on the team who had authority.

http://www.amazon.com/Masters-Doom-Created-Transformed-Culture/dp/0812972155
 
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33. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 5, 2014, 16:53 Beamer
 
Cutter wrote on Feb 5, 2014, 01:26:
Hump wrote on Feb 5, 2014, 00:37:
Once again, Lawyers fuck up everything that is good.

It amazes me that companies involved in the arts (music, games, film, etc) have to vett their creative vision to mindless human garbage who almost always are totally clueless to the needs/wants of the marketplace.

Cunts. Wall

And id needed to sell out why? You reap what you sow.

Because the guys who owned it were getting old, its value was dropping rapidly, and they wanted to cash in their life of hard work while it was still worth something?
 
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32. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 5, 2014, 16:36 MxxCon
 
HorrorScope wrote on Feb 5, 2014, 15:54:
I'll say this.. Notch makes one game and makes more money than Caramack and Romero combined for their careers. I don't know what it means, but I guess he's the smartest.
You need to check your numbers...
 
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31. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 5, 2014, 15:54 HorrorScope
 
Timmeh wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 21:56:
This site has more clueless douche bags than any other place i visit on the internet.


Seems only average to me, you don't get around the nets much.

I'll say this.. Notch makes one game and makes more money than Caramack and Romero combined for their careers. I don't know what it means, but I guess he's the smartest.
 
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30. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 5, 2014, 15:04 MxxCon
 
christheshitter wrote on Feb 5, 2014, 14:50:
[VG]Reagle wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 20:10:
Mad Max RW wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 19:51:
[VG]Reagle wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 19:07:
Let me translate. Id wanted me to work on actual games and all I want to do is puke 4 hour speeches about
video drivers.

[VG]Reagle wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 19:47:
Thanks for making us want to dig our ear drums out with a fork every year.

We get it. Someone tied you down and forced you to listen to his keynotes A Clockwork Orange style.

Romero was right all along. Wasted money on ROCKETS AND YAPPED NON STOP FOR 10 years.

What does rockets had to do anything with it?
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29. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 5, 2014, 14:50 christheshitter
 
[VG]Reagle wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 20:10:
Mad Max RW wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 19:51:
[VG]Reagle wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 19:07:
Let me translate. Id wanted me to work on actual games and all I want to do is puke 4 hour speeches about
video drivers.

[VG]Reagle wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 19:47:
Thanks for making us want to dig our ear drums out with a fork every year.

We get it. Someone tied you down and forced you to listen to his keynotes A Clockwork Orange style.

Romero was right all along. Wasted money on ROCKETS AND YAPPED NON STOP FOR 10 years.

What does rockets had to do anything with it?
 
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28. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 5, 2014, 14:40 Steele Johnson
 
There's nothing wrong with a guy wanting to do something fun and interesting for work, and that usually involves leaving the job you've had for way too long.  
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27. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 5, 2014, 13:49 edaciousx
 
Cutter wrote on Feb 5, 2014, 01:26:
Hump wrote on Feb 5, 2014, 00:37:
Once again, Lawyers fuck up everything that is good.

It amazes me that companies involved in the arts (music, games, film, etc) have to vett their creative vision to mindless human garbage who almost always are totally clueless to the needs/wants of the marketplace.

Cunts. Wall

And id needed to sell out why? You reap what you sow.

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Full Definition of SOW

1: an adult female swine; also : the adult female of various other animals (as a bear)
2a : a channel that conducts molten metal to molds
2b : a mass of metal solidified in such a mold : ingot
 
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26. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 5, 2014, 08:30 djinn
 
Timmeh wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 21:56:
This site has more clueless douche bags than any other place i visit on the internet.


There's always room for one more. Welcome to the club!
 
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25. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 5, 2014, 08:15 gray
 
No point having innovators in corporate behemoths, they get crushed by bureaucrats and bean counters. It's the right move.  
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24. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 5, 2014, 02:29 jdreyer
 
Jivaro wrote on Feb 5, 2014, 01:56:
Leaving id was the best thing he could have done IMO. I am just glad he ended up somewhere else that will most likely make something I will thoroughly enjoy.

All I can say is I can't wait to plunk down $$$ for an OR.
 
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23. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 5, 2014, 01:56 Jivaro
 
Leaving id was the best thing he could have done IMO. I am just glad he ended up somewhere else that will most likely make something I will thoroughly enjoy.  
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22. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 5, 2014, 01:43 MxxCon
 
[VG]Reagle wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 20:10:
Mad Max RW wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 19:51:
[VG]Reagle wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 19:07:
Let me translate. Id wanted me to work on actual games and all I want to do is puke 4 hour speeches about
video drivers.

[VG]Reagle wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 19:47:
Thanks for making us want to dig our ear drums out with a fork every year.

We get it. Someone tied you down and forced you to listen to his keynotes A Clockwork Orange style.

Romero was right all along. Wasted money on ROCKETS AND YAPPED NON STOP FOR 10 years.
Geez. Who poured sand into your vagina?
 
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21. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 5, 2014, 01:42 MxxCon
 
Cutter wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 22:48:
Timmeh wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 21:56:
This site has more clueless douche bags than any other place i visit on the internet.


He comes for the news, but he stays for the douche bags.

You know, I'm not a douche bag, but I play one on TV....
And you won a daytime Emmy for that.
 
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20. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 5, 2014, 01:42 .Drifter
 
Panickd wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 21:58:
[VG]Reagle wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 20:10:
Mad Max RW wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 19:51:
[VG]Reagle wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 19:07:
Let me translate. Id wanted me to work on actual games and all I want to do is puke 4 hour speeches about
video drivers.

[VG]Reagle wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 19:47:
Thanks for making us want to dig our ear drums out with a fork every year.

We get it. Someone tied you down and forced you to listen to his keynotes A Clockwork Orange style.

Romero was right all along. Wasted money on ROCKETS AND YAPPED NON STOP FOR 10 years.

So what you're saying is that John Romero made you his bitch? And you sucked it down?

It all makes sense now!!!!!
 
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19. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 5, 2014, 01:26 Cutter
 
Hump wrote on Feb 5, 2014, 00:37:
Once again, Lawyers fuck up everything that is good.

It amazes me that companies involved in the arts (music, games, film, etc) have to vett their creative vision to mindless human garbage who almost always are totally clueless to the needs/wants of the marketplace.

Cunts. Wall

And id needed to sell out why? You reap what you sow.
 
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18. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 5, 2014, 00:37 Hump
 
Once again, Lawyers fuck up everything that is good.

It amazes me that companies involved in the arts (music, games, film, etc) have to vett their creative vision to mindless human garbage who almost always are totally clueless to the needs/wants of the marketplace.

Cunts. Wall
 
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17. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 4, 2014, 22:48 Cutter
 
Timmeh wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 21:56:
This site has more clueless douche bags than any other place i visit on the internet.


He comes for the news, but he stays for the douche bags.

You know, I'm not a douche bag, but I play one on TV....
 
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16. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 4, 2014, 22:09 MajorD
 
jdreyer wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 21:59:
Timmeh wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 21:56:
This site has more clueless douche bags than any other place i visit on the internet.


Buh bye!

He seemed upset....do you think he was upset?

 
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15. Re: John Carmack on Leaving id Feb 4, 2014, 21:59 jdreyer
 
Timmeh wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 21:56:
This site has more clueless douche bags than any other place i visit on the internet.


Buh bye!
 
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