El Pit wrote on Dec 21, 2013, 01:44:jacobvandy wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 19:34:
You are so misguided in your anger, it's bordering on comical. You don't think Steam wants your money? This isn't their decision, it's the publisher calling the shots in deciding how their product is distributed. Cross-region second-hand markets that exploit price differences are highly offensive to the people who own the properties, and should probably be illegal outright. This is just them closing that loophole. And did you ever think it might even be the politicians in your country pressuring Valve and/or the publishers to not allow the indirect sale of outlawed media? Maybe you should find a new place to live, if you're not allowed to buy what you want there... You're all about free trade, so why the hell are you living in a place that doesn't allow it? Take some time to think about what you're saying before you say it.
So, I'm misguided and then you repeat what I wrote?
Oh, and "find a new place to live, if you'r enot allowed to buy what you" want to play the games. I find this comical.
Again (maybe you can read and comprehend it now): Steam and most of the publishers are in the US. Why do they bow to OZ and Germany? Show them the finger and sell the games internationally, even at the higher prices. What are they afraid of? OZ and Germany invading the US?
"You're all about free trade, so why the hell are you living in a place that doesn't allow it?" They got "free trade" here. For the companies. Not for the people. Same in the US, obviously.
"Take some time to think about what you're saying before you say it."
That is like seeing the mote in one's brother's eye without noticing the beam in one's own. Troll on!
jacobvandy wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 19:34:
You are so misguided in your anger, it's bordering on comical. You don't think Steam wants your money? This isn't their decision, it's the publisher calling the shots in deciding how their product is distributed. Cross-region second-hand markets that exploit price differences are highly offensive to the people who own the properties, and should probably be illegal outright. This is just them closing that loophole. And did you ever think it might even be the politicians in your country pressuring Valve and/or the publishers to not allow the indirect sale of outlawed media? Maybe you should find a new place to live, if you're not allowed to buy what you want there... You're all about free trade, so why the hell are you living in a place that doesn't allow it? Take some time to think about what you're saying before you say it.
Orogogus wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 19:46:
I think Brazilians pay a lot for video games for some reason, possibly extremely high import taxes.
Beamer wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 16:46:Julio wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 16:29:Beamer wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 15:27:
The solution is to region-lock, and charge according to what people can afford. Everyone wins.
Except consumers in countries that are getting gouged with artificially high prices. The corporations can export jobs to low cost countries, but won't let the people take advantage of importing from low cost countries.
But it isn't artificially high anywhere. Ok, I guess Australia.
Anywhere else? The Western nations are the ones the price is being set for. The other nations get artificially low pricing.
El Pit wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 14:37:
Free trade, people, free trade! But of course not for the pariahs, the regular consumers. They can go and suck it!
Dear publisher, developers, Valve: If you do this, then this means that you actively refuse to allow me access to a game. You won't sell it to me, and now I can't even get it gifted. I have hundreds of games on Steam, but if you do this, than it is YOU who forces me into warez. Yes, YOU! You're sitting in the US and could tell OZ, German, and other governments to go and fxxk themselves, but instead you bow to those self-procalimed godfathers of morale and tell the consumers, YOUR consumers to pxxs off. And you know what? You do this, and I will do it and pxxs off. With my money. That you don't want. It's up to you, it's your choice. At least give me the chance to ask some people here and elsewhere to gift me games that you refuse to sell to me directly, but if you even refuse to do this, if you dare to stick a yellow star or whatever on me, then I'll be gone. And I WILL play those games, but without paying you, the developers, the publishers. Because you don't want to sell. Your mistake, not mine. I can solve this problem by taking all of you out of the equation. Decided wisely.
Sorry for the drama, but this pixxes me off HUGE TIME!
PHJF wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 15:49:The solution is to region-lock, and charge according to what people can afford. Everyone wins.
Except Australians.
Julio wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 16:29:Beamer wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 15:27:
The solution is to region-lock, and charge according to what people can afford. Everyone wins.
Except consumers in countries that are getting gouged with artificially high prices. The corporations can export jobs to low cost countries, but won't let the people take advantage of importing from low cost countries.
Beamer wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 15:27:
The solution is to region-lock, and charge according to what people can afford. Everyone wins.
PHJF wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 15:49:The solution is to region-lock, and charge according to what people can afford. Everyone wins.
Except Australians.
InBlack wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 09:55:nin wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 09:51:InBlack wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 09:42:
What? Im trying to make sense of the blurb but keep failing. So cross region gifting is NOT allowed?? Bummer...
Sounds like it. Surprised they've not done this sooner. But I guess it's better than logging into your account one day and finding games missing, or your account banned.
Huh? How does that help with that? What Im seeing as motivation here is pure greed. Its the same reason why they have different regions in the first place. So they can skim the exchange rate rates.
SpectralMeat wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 09:44:
Maybe they've finally figured out that games are a lot cheaper in Russia than they are in North America?
1. create fake account in Russia
2. buy games cheap
3. gift them to main account
4. profit?
nin wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 09:51:InBlack wrote on Dec 20, 2013, 09:42:
What? Im trying to make sense of the blurb but keep failing. So cross region gifting is NOT allowed?? Bummer...
Sounds like it. Surprised they've not done this sooner. But I guess it's better than logging into your account one day and finding games missing, or your account banned.