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MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs

Piranha has introduced a new series of gold clan mechs for MechWarrior Online, their free-to-play MMO mech combat game. In addition to the obvious camouflage advantages of their gold skins is word that "the Khan Collections provide pilots participating in Operation Revival with the most exclusive and treasured of Clan Technologies." Just be sure to hide the credit card receipts from your significant other, as one of these bad boys will set you back US$500.00, and there is no bulk discount, so buying all eight will cost $4000.00. Better hurry, they say these are available in limited quantities. Thanks Rhialto.

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64. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 16, 2013, 16:50 BitWraith
 
$500 for what basically amounts to nothing is a tad overpriced...

Someone with the expendable money would be wise to avoid spending it in such a fashion - they decide to shut this game down and "poof" your moola has gone the way of the Dodo.

$1 is pretty much the max I'm willing to spend on digital goods in games.

 
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63. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 16, 2013, 10:20 Spaceherpes
 
Endo wrote on Dec 16, 2013, 09:24:
Pay2win doesn't mean "if I spend enough money I'm guaranteed to win". It can simply mean that by spending money you will get an advantage that lets you win more often than you would otherwise.

Cool Shot 9 cost 40k credits, which is covered pretty much every match. You would have to lose really badly not to make that money back. I average around 50-70k when I lose and 70-110k when I win. If you are building up a cash supply to purchase a mech, then you wouldn't want to spend credits on things like Shots or Strikes. However, if you have the mechs you really want, then it's not going to drain you to buy these things. Multiple consumables will drain you, but a single one is fine. Just to state again, as an active player, I don't feel like I'm losing a match because of these different pay models. When I shoot a mech that is standing still and no damage registers, that feels like an actual problem (mostly likely to happen with Spiders, though I watched my friend shoot 18 SRM missiles point blank into a Jenner's face and it barely registered the damage).
 
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62. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 16, 2013, 09:24 Endo
 
Spaceherpes wrote on Dec 16, 2013, 00:11:
Flatline wrote on Dec 15, 2013, 18:48:
Oh pay2win, where paying real world money gives you a distinct in-game advantage.

Last time I checked, there were premium coolant tanks that let you attack more, longer, that you could only purchase with money. At that point, my P2W flag went off and I quit playing.

You can upgrade the 9 shot to be equal to the 18 shot (the pay version) if you spend GXP. I've only purchased mech slots for this game and I've never felt like I was at a disadvantage.

I don't really see the gold mechs or tiered packages as a problem with the game. Their presentation and timing sucks, but their existence does not. I dislike their pricing model, but that's a different argument. I do see the lack of real updates or content as a problem. Their inability to balance the game is a problem and that makes the upcoming Clan release really frightening. Rumor has it that some long awaited features will be released in January, but, at this point, I'll believe it when I see it.

And the last time I checked the 9 shot still cost enough credits that no one can make enough money to cover its cost every game. And something like that, there's generally no reason NOT to use it to get an early advantage every game. And that's only one consumable out of three you can carry.

Pay2win doesn't mean "if I spend enough money I'm guaranteed to win". It can simply mean that by spending money you will get an advantage that lets you win more often than you would otherwise.
 
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61. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 16, 2013, 00:11 Spaceherpes
 
Flatline wrote on Dec 15, 2013, 18:48:
Oh pay2win, where paying real world money gives you a distinct in-game advantage.

Last time I checked, there were premium coolant tanks that let you attack more, longer, that you could only purchase with money. At that point, my P2W flag went off and I quit playing.

You can upgrade the 9 shot to be equal to the 18 shot (the pay version) if you spend GXP. I've only purchased mech slots for this game and I've never felt like I was at a disadvantage.

I don't really see the gold mechs or tiered packages as a problem with the game. Their presentation and timing sucks, but their existence does not. I dislike their pricing model, but that's a different argument. I do see the lack of real updates or content as a problem. Their inability to balance the game is a problem and that makes the upcoming Clan release really frightening. Rumor has it that some long awaited features will be released in January, but, at this point, I'll believe it when I see it.
 
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60. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 15, 2013, 18:48 Flatline
 
RamataKahn wrote on Dec 15, 2013, 01:53:
I can't believe people think this game is P2W, learn what it means idiots.

Oh pay2win, where paying real world money gives you a distinct in-game advantage.

Last time I checked, there were premium coolant tanks that let you attack more, longer, that you could only purchase with money. At that point, my P2W flag went off and I quit playing.
 
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59. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 15, 2013, 18:06 Endo
 
So this kind of crap is why people actually believe games like World of Tanks are good games. I won't even buy premium tanks in that game because I consider them a ripoff, and they top out at $50.

Oh, and MWO is not an MMO.
 
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58. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 15, 2013, 15:29 InBlack
 
RamataKahn wrote on Dec 15, 2013, 01:53:
I can't believe people think this game is P2W, learn what it means idiots.

I have to agree with this. Reluctantly. Why reluctantly? Because all the promised features, like the metagame are missing in action.

Right now its just a glorified team deathmatch game. It feels gutted like a fish. A damn shame really because the game really has potential. Unfortunately all the developers see is the easy money suckers will pony up for empty promises.

Im afraid that SC will turn into a version of MW:O. (If its not one already)
 
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57. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 15, 2013, 13:11 Pumas
 
What this needs is an animation of a golden mech jump-jetting over a mechanical shark.  
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56. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 15, 2013, 11:52 Shataan
 
"good lord the stupid is strong with gamers now."

He speaks the truth! ;p

 
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55. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 15, 2013, 09:42 Orogogus
 
Julio wrote on Dec 15, 2013, 07:33:
RamataKahn wrote on Dec 15, 2013, 01:53:
I can't believe people think this game is P2W, learn what it means idiots.

I'm curious why you don't consider it not being P2W, nevermind actually - you're probably the moron dropping $500 on these.

From 30 seconds of reading their site: The $500 pay-to-win mechs allow you to collect cbills faster. Cbills are used to buy better tech. Therefore you get an advantage in time over other players. SC ships are the same (I wonder how many decades it would take to earn enough in SC for a $15K ship).

To me, that's pay-to-win. Of course the people who aren't skilled at gaming and need to buy extras wouldn't think so. They'd like to justify those $500-$15,000 purchases as not being pay-to-win. Because that way they can feel like they are good players. If you're buying anything in a game that gives you any advantage (such as time) then you're pay-to-win.

In practice, it depends on the game. The way MWO is now, you can only pilot one 'Mech at a time, and there aren't any tiers like in War Thunder or World of Tanks. The most expensive 'Mechs in the game can be earned and equipped by a casual player in a month or so -- 'Mechs cost 14M C-Bills at the top plus a few million for equipment, and you make about 700K/hour, so say 30 hrs of play. Then maybe a couple more months to Elite them for additional minor bonuses -- again, assuming casual play. And that's it as far as "to win" goes. And that 14M 'Mech isn't even necessarily the best one.

Right now, without the metagame in place, the main thing to do with more game money is buy more 'Mechs and equipment so you can switch around. There's no endgame content yet that that you need to grind for years or pay money to buy. So I wouldn't consider the game pay to win, because the bar for winning is really low.
 
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54. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 15, 2013, 08:26 eRe4s3r
 
Kosumo wrote on Dec 14, 2013, 15:07:
jdreyer wrote on Dec 14, 2013, 14:33:
warmbluelasers wrote on Dec 14, 2013, 13:56:
Gold plated clan mech preorders and the "limited edition" StarCitizen capital ships are very concerning. I thought EA, Activision, Ubisoft, etc were supposed to be the wallet raiders, not the "independent" studios.

As for MWO, I guess it's true there's a sucker born every minute or that scam would have died by now.

At least with SC you can buy everything in game if you play enough. Not so with MWO.

But what if the game (SC) is a total snoozefest with shitty combat, a 'fake' economy and bits that are still 'works in progress'.

Roberts should have kickstarted Squad42 and finished it, then done another kickstarter for the Star Citizen after he had delivied on the first project. To me it looks like it's out of his control now, so many promise and faith based ship sales that I doubt everyone is gonna get what they want. (also totally open to taking many years to get done)

Just my 2cents (anyone got change for a dollar?)

That's why I pledged the bare minimum and not a single cent more. I want this to be good, but if it fails.. well there is still dat Elite remake
 
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53. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 15, 2013, 07:42 Ozmodan
 
This is all that is wrong with f2p games. It is not a game anymore, it is a gambling casino.  
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52. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 15, 2013, 07:33 Julio
 
RamataKahn wrote on Dec 15, 2013, 01:53:
I can't believe people think this game is P2W, learn what it means idiots.

I'm curious why you don't consider it not being P2W, nevermind actually - you're probably the moron dropping $500 on these.

From 30 seconds of reading their site: The $500 pay-to-win mechs allow you to collect cbills faster. Cbills are used to buy better tech. Therefore you get an advantage in time over other players. SC ships are the same (I wonder how many decades it would take to earn enough in SC for a $15K ship).

To me, that's pay-to-win. Of course the people who aren't skilled at gaming and need to buy extras wouldn't think so. They'd like to justify those $500-$15,000 purchases as not being pay-to-win. Because that way they can feel like they are good players. If you're buying anything in a game that gives you any advantage (such as time) then you're pay-to-win.
 
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51. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 15, 2013, 06:48 Prez
 
Nighthawk wrote on Dec 15, 2013, 04:37:
jdreyer wrote on Dec 14, 2013, 21:46:
I feel quite certain that it's not the developers who come up with the idea of adding microtransactions...

You could ask Bethesda, I can't think of any example prior to horse armour that would be considered uTX (u/ is the sign for micro) before that.

IIRC the community response back then was overwhelming negative, so much so that it was the first and ONLY example of them using microtransactions with Oblivion. It even became a source for future self-mocking by Bethesda, and was in at least one April Fool's joke that I can remember. I wonder what has changed since then, as gamers buy the equivalent of horse armor by the truckload every day in all of their games nowadays.
 
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50. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 15, 2013, 05:05 Dmitri_M
 
I picture an artist dragging the Photoshop hue and saturation slider to make the textures gold. And then charging $500 for it.

Anyone who spends money on this, or those awful Star Citizen space ships..yes, awful because there are unemployed 3D artists who can do a better job on the art and while they are above average models they do not warrant the prices they're going for..but I digress.. Anyone who spends money on these things is a M O R O N.
 
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49. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 15, 2013, 04:37 Nighthawk
 
jdreyer wrote on Dec 14, 2013, 21:46:
I feel quite certain that it's not the developers who come up with the idea of adding microtransactions...

You could ask Bethesda, I can't think of any example prior to horse armour that would be considered uTX (u/ is the sign for micro) before that.
 
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48. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 15, 2013, 03:05 OldTimber
 
Still have money left over from your weekly allowance to spend on Star Citizen? Has your girl/boy/husband/wife not laughed in your face enough for spending money on something you'll never own? Well why not spend your time in MWO until that is released and we'll keep that credit card bill nice and large ever month until then. We'll promise you the moon, universe even, of your own mech factory and maybe a planet or two, but hell we may or may not deliver a pile of steamed excrement, but thanks for your "funding"

good lord the stupid is strong with gamers now.
 
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47. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 15, 2013, 03:00 Task
 
jdreyer wrote on Dec 15, 2013, 02:34:
Although I'm really looking for a SP campaign or sandbox style MW game, is anyone playing MW Living Legends? I haven't checked this out for a couple of years. Does anyone have any experience playing the most recent build?

Yes, its still available. There are essentially only 2 servers that people still play on.

http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/

They made a new universal installer to for the latest version. Its not in development anymore though, since the mod Devs got hired by some game studios I believe.
 
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46. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 15, 2013, 02:34 jdreyer
 
Although I'm really looking for a SP campaign or sandbox style MW game, is anyone playing MW Living Legends? I haven't checked this out for a couple of years. Does anyone have any experience playing the most recent build?  
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45. Re: MechWarrior Online's $500 Gold Mechs Dec 15, 2013, 02:23 Prez
 
What is just unbelievable to me is that in years not too long past if you wanted a gold mech, or a purple mech, or a sky-blue pink mech, whatever, all you had to do was download a free mod (or make it yourself). So game-makers have removed the ability for gamers themselves to make extra content for the game as was commonplace up until only recently, then turned around and started charging exorbitant prices for utterly ridiculous things like cosmetic upgrades and gamers are all too happy to pay for the privilege. Utterly mind-boggling. Stunned  
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