Wesp5 wrote on Nov 21, 2013, 08:36:
Redmask wrote on Nov 21, 2013, 07:27:
It isn't realistic or fair to argue that Valve did not contribute significant value...
I never argued that Valve didn't contribute significant value, of course Portal is a much better and polished game than Nabarcular Drop. But in the end Valve relies on outside projects almost completely right now! They don't do anything on their own that hasn't been tested and found successful by some community already. And all of them are rather small projects too, nothing over 5 hours playtime since HL2. For me this is playing it completely on the safe side while living from Steam alone. Almost as if they fear that HL:EP3 would fail for expectations like DNF did...
Oh, and like the first commenter here, I am so angry at Valve because I want HL:EP3 :)!
Well, ignoring that everything outside the original Portal is well over 5 hours of gameplay, and ignoring that Nabarcular Drop and Portal have very little in common, with one being an ugly game that didn't have many puzzles and the other being a classic that instantly gave us The Cake is a Lie, Still Alive, and GladOS, all of whom are referenced to this day, and ignoring that Valve is by far the largest PC-centric independent developer and that those game developers are most likely doing
something despite what many people here keep claiming, it just shows a complete lack of understanding into how games are designed and how really any business works, period.
Here, let me apply your argument to other industries:
- I don't get why Google gets so much credit for Android. Android Inc. made Android, Google just bought it! Sure, they fixed it and made it a modern OS, but still, Google stole that idea from the community using a lot of money and hiring the brains behind it and putting them in leadership roles!
+[I don't get why people say the Red Sox won the World Series. David Ortiz is what made them win, and he wasn't even drafted by the Red Sox! The Twins drafted him! They did all the work! Sure, they let him go, and it wasn't until he became a Red Sock that he started playing like a superstar, but still, the Sox are just taking credit for what the Twins did!]*
Silly, no?