Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) pushed through the Senate Intelligence Committee on an 11-4 vote a bill that enshrines the bulk collection of Americans' phone call records into law, and expands the agency's authority to track foreign nationals who enter the United States
Beamer wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 20:01:Prez wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 19:49:RollinThundr wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 19:07:Cutter wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 18:50:Carter, prior to Obama is the worse president in this country's history, yeah there's been plenty of president's worse than Junior, plenty. Nixon? LBJ? Plenty Cutter plenty.
Reagan was a clown that deeply divided the country. And he prolonged the cold war, he didn't end it. And you're saying anyone was worse than Dubya? Jesus, you really do live in your own little fantasy world. Seek professional psychiatric help and get on some meds. Seriously.
Conservatives pretty much consider the current sitting Democrat president the worst president in history, and vice versa. In truth the presidents in our lifetime have largely been middle of the pack as far as historical ranking.
I predict Obama to always be controversial, like Reagan, but further behind. He'll sit in the mid 20s, probably, or high 20s. You really need 20 years to know the effects of a president, but this would be my guess. He hasn't accomplished much, other than some obvious things (some of the gay rights), and one big thing off to a miserable start.
It's hard to do something to break into the top 20 without having been a hero or a legend, and he won't be either. Well, breaking a race barrier will give him some legend, but nothing that overcomes a wishy washy presidency.
Prez wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 19:49:RollinThundr wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 19:07:Cutter wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 18:50:Carter, prior to Obama is the worse president in this country's history, yeah there's been plenty of president's worse than Junior, plenty. Nixon? LBJ? Plenty Cutter plenty.
Reagan was a clown that deeply divided the country. And he prolonged the cold war, he didn't end it. And you're saying anyone was worse than Dubya? Jesus, you really do live in your own little fantasy world. Seek professional psychiatric help and get on some meds. Seriously.
Conservatives pretty much consider the current sitting Democrat president the worst president in history, and vice versa. In truth the presidents in our lifetime have largely been middle of the pack as far as historical ranking.
Prez wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 19:49:RollinThundr wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 19:07:Cutter wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 18:50:Carter, prior to Obama is the worse president in this country's history, yeah there's been plenty of president's worse than Junior, plenty. Nixon? LBJ? Plenty Cutter plenty.
Reagan was a clown that deeply divided the country. And he prolonged the cold war, he didn't end it. And you're saying anyone was worse than Dubya? Jesus, you really do live in your own little fantasy world. Seek professional psychiatric help and get on some meds. Seriously.
Conservatives pretty much consider the current sitting Democrat president the worst president in history, and vice versa. In truth the presidents in our lifetime have largely been middle of the pack as far as historical ranking.
Beamer wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 19:32:
Carter sucked, but in no way is he worse than Jackson, Pierce, Filmore, Johnson, Tyler (who defended slavery), and Harding (who famously let his rich friends trash the country!)
Harrison, in office for 30 days, beats them all.
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 19:07:Cutter wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 18:50:Carter, prior to Obama is the worse president in this country's history, yeah there's been plenty of president's worse than Junior, plenty. Nixon? LBJ? Plenty Cutter plenty.
Reagan was a clown that deeply divided the country. And he prolonged the cold war, he didn't end it. And you're saying anyone was worse than Dubya? Jesus, you really do live in your own little fantasy world. Seek professional psychiatric help and get on some meds. Seriously.
Cutter wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 18:50:Carter, prior to Obama is the worse president in this country's history, yeah there's been plenty of president's worse than Junior, plenty. Nixon? LBJ? Plenty Cutter plenty.
Reagan was a clown that deeply divided the country. And he prolonged the cold war, he didn't end it. And you're saying anyone was worse than Dubya? Jesus, you really do live in your own little fantasy world. Seek professional psychiatric help and get on some meds. Seriously.
Beamer wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 17:25:
The nicest thing about 2016 will be that RollinThundr will be unable to mention Obamas name ever again.
Well, he probably will, because he's a hypocrite. Someone mention Bush (which I rarely do but he apparently thinks I do every post) and he gets all bent out of shape. So I can only assume that, when a new president is in office, the word "Obama" will be out of his vocabulary.
JSP wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 15:04:
Republicans not raising taxes? I laugh. Remember Ronald Reagan? Republicans have been responsible in expanding government by unprecedented amount and increasing the deficit by unprecedented amount, nearly tanking the economy just a few years ago. Oh, and remember that war in Iraq that cost a trillion? Never Republican logic? I laugh and laugh. GTFO
They are the sides of the same coin I say, with the Libertarian tards thinking they are the answer lapping up Ron Paul's senile ramblings. Yeah you do that.
Prez wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 13:46:
It seems as though politics has always been a case of the (slightly) lesser of two evils. Doesn't seem like it should be though...
Bodolza wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 12:58:
In case your not sure how politics works, when it comes to voting time, the choice will either be Feinstein, or the Republican candidate, who's always even more authoritarian.
Bodolza wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 12:58:
In case your not sure how politics works, when it comes to voting time, the choice will either be Feinstein, or the Republican candidate, who's always even more authoritarian.
jdreyer wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 13:06:
Yeah, if both Thundr and I agree on this issue, you gotta believe the rest of this country is united.
Bodolza wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 12:58:
In case your not sure how politics works, when it comes to voting time, the choice will either be Feinstein, or the Republican candidate, who's always even more authoritarian.
Beamer wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 12:05:
What I mean by united is the people. It's one issue virtually every non-politician has the same view on.