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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 2, 2013, 07:27
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 2, 2013, 07:27
Nov 2, 2013, 07:27
 
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) pushed through the Senate Intelligence Committee on an 11-4 vote a bill that enshrines the bulk collection of Americans' phone call records into law, and expands the agency's authority to track foreign nationals who enter the United States

It's good that absolutely no foreigner is forced to visit the country of endless paranoia - UPSA. And to those who do: You've been warned.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 20:14
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 1, 2013, 20:14
Nov 1, 2013, 20:14
 
Beamer wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 20:01:
Prez wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 19:49:
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 19:07:
Cutter wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 18:50:
Reagan was a clown that deeply divided the country. And he prolonged the cold war, he didn't end it. And you're saying anyone was worse than Dubya? Jesus, you really do live in your own little fantasy world. Seek professional psychiatric help and get on some meds. Seriously.

Carter, prior to Obama is the worse president in this country's history, yeah there's been plenty of president's worse than Junior, plenty. Nixon? LBJ? Plenty Cutter plenty.

Conservatives pretty much consider the current sitting Democrat president the worst president in history, and vice versa. In truth the presidents in our lifetime have largely been middle of the pack as far as historical ranking.


I predict Obama to always be controversial, like Reagan, but further behind. He'll sit in the mid 20s, probably, or high 20s. You really need 20 years to know the effects of a president, but this would be my guess. He hasn't accomplished much, other than some obvious things (some of the gay rights), and one big thing off to a miserable start.

It's hard to do something to break into the top 20 without having been a hero or a legend, and he won't be either. Well, breaking a race barrier will give him some legend, but nothing that overcomes a wishy washy presidency.

We obviously need to see how the ACA plays out, I don't think anyone can claim at this point though that it hasn't been anything but one huge failure so far though. Much like most of the rest of his promises, transparency, closing Gitmo, promising to not be partisan when he's been one of the most partisan president's in my lifetime. etc.

I think the thing with Obama is he thought corrupt Chicago style politics would work for the entire country, he was obviously very wrong. I also think and saying this certainly won't win me any pats on the back but I don't bite my tongue for anyone, that he's more than likely quite racist. Considering the 19 years he sat in the pews of Rev Wright's church and some of the comments his wife has made.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 20:01
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 1, 2013, 20:01
Nov 1, 2013, 20:01
 
Prez wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 19:49:
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 19:07:
Cutter wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 18:50:
Reagan was a clown that deeply divided the country. And he prolonged the cold war, he didn't end it. And you're saying anyone was worse than Dubya? Jesus, you really do live in your own little fantasy world. Seek professional psychiatric help and get on some meds. Seriously.

Carter, prior to Obama is the worse president in this country's history, yeah there's been plenty of president's worse than Junior, plenty. Nixon? LBJ? Plenty Cutter plenty.

Conservatives pretty much consider the current sitting Democrat president the worst president in history, and vice versa. In truth the presidents in our lifetime have largely been middle of the pack as far as historical ranking.


I predict Obama to always be controversial, like Reagan, but further behind. He'll sit in the mid 20s, probably, or high 20s. You really need 20 years to know the effects of a president, but this would be my guess. He hasn't accomplished much, other than some obvious things (some of the gay rights), and one big thing off to a miserable start.

It's hard to do something to break into the top 20 without having been a hero or a legend, and he won't be either. Well, breaking a race barrier will give him some legend, but nothing that overcomes a wishy washy presidency.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 20:01
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 1, 2013, 20:01
Nov 1, 2013, 20:01
 
Prez wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 19:49:
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 19:07:
Cutter wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 18:50:
Reagan was a clown that deeply divided the country. And he prolonged the cold war, he didn't end it. And you're saying anyone was worse than Dubya? Jesus, you really do live in your own little fantasy world. Seek professional psychiatric help and get on some meds. Seriously.

Carter, prior to Obama is the worse president in this country's history, yeah there's been plenty of president's worse than Junior, plenty. Nixon? LBJ? Plenty Cutter plenty.

Conservatives pretty much consider the current sitting Democrat president the worst president in history, and vice versa. In truth the presidents in our lifetime have largely been middle of the pack as far as historical ranking.


Not all of us, I didn't hate Clinton, just some of his economic policy choices, like repealing the Glass Steagall act.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 19:56
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 1, 2013, 19:56
Nov 1, 2013, 19:56
 
Beamer wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 19:32:
Carter sucked, but in no way is he worse than Jackson, Pierce, Filmore, Johnson, Tyler (who defended slavery), and Harding (who famously let his rich friends trash the country!)

Harrison, in office for 30 days, beats them all.

Fair enough, I was more meaning within this past generation. Sure if you wanna go way back presidents like Pierce and the like being pro slavery certainly qualify.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 19:49
Prez
 
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 1, 2013, 19:49
Nov 1, 2013, 19:49
 Prez
 
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 19:07:
Cutter wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 18:50:
Reagan was a clown that deeply divided the country. And he prolonged the cold war, he didn't end it. And you're saying anyone was worse than Dubya? Jesus, you really do live in your own little fantasy world. Seek professional psychiatric help and get on some meds. Seriously.

Carter, prior to Obama is the worse president in this country's history, yeah there's been plenty of president's worse than Junior, plenty. Nixon? LBJ? Plenty Cutter plenty.

Conservatives pretty much consider the current sitting Democrat president the worst president in history, and vice versa. In truth the presidents in our lifetime have largely been middle of the pack as far as historical ranking.

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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 19:32
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 1, 2013, 19:32
Nov 1, 2013, 19:32
 
Carter sucked, but in no way is he worse than Jackson, Pierce, Filmore, Johnson, Tyler (who defended slavery), and Harding (who famously let his rich friends trash the country!)

Harrison, in office for 30 days, beats them all.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 19:07
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 1, 2013, 19:07
Nov 1, 2013, 19:07
 
Cutter wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 18:50:
Reagan was a clown that deeply divided the country. And he prolonged the cold war, he didn't end it. And you're saying anyone was worse than Dubya? Jesus, you really do live in your own little fantasy world. Seek professional psychiatric help and get on some meds. Seriously.

Carter, prior to Obama is the worse president in this country's history, yeah there's been plenty of president's worse than Junior, plenty. Nixon? LBJ? Plenty Cutter plenty.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 18:50
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 1, 2013, 18:50
Nov 1, 2013, 18:50
 
Reagan was a clown that deeply divided the country. And he prolonged the cold war, he didn't end it. And you're saying anyone was worse than Dubya? Jesus, you really do live in your own little fantasy world. Seek professional psychiatric help and get on some meds. Seriously.

"The horse I bet on was so slow, the jockey kept a diary of the trip." - Henny Youngman
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 17:44
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 1, 2013, 17:44
Nov 1, 2013, 17:44
 
Beamer wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 17:25:
The nicest thing about 2016 will be that RollinThundr will be unable to mention Obamas name ever again.

Well, he probably will, because he's a hypocrite. Someone mention Bush (which I rarely do but he apparently thinks I do every post) and he gets all bent out of shape. So I can only assume that, when a new president is in office, the word "Obama" will be out of his vocabulary.

It'll be awesome once he's out, regardless of which party gets in. Most damaging president since Carter, hands down.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 17:25
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 1, 2013, 17:25
Nov 1, 2013, 17:25
 
The nicest thing about 2016 will be that RollinThundr will be unable to mention Obamas name ever again.

Well, he probably will, because he's a hypocrite. Someone mention Bush (which I rarely do but he apparently thinks I do every post) and he gets all bent out of shape. So I can only assume that, when a new president is in office, the word "Obama" will be out of his vocabulary.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 17:12
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 1, 2013, 17:12
Nov 1, 2013, 17:12
 
JSP wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 15:04:
Republicans not raising taxes? I laugh. Remember Ronald Reagan? Republicans have been responsible in expanding government by unprecedented amount and increasing the deficit by unprecedented amount, nearly tanking the economy just a few years ago. Oh, and remember that war in Iraq that cost a trillion? Never Republican logic? I laugh and laugh. GTFO

They are the sides of the same coin I say, with the Libertarian tards thinking they are the answer lapping up Ron Paul's senile ramblings. Yeah you do that.

Reagan also had a cold war to fight, that doesn't excuse the debt he ran up either, I've said that before. The difference with Reagan is he wasn't a divider like Obama, he loved his country, I'm not sure I can say the same about the Narcissist in Chief we currently have though.

I agree that for the most part they are two sides of the same coin, that being said however, again you don't see republicans pushing for more oppressive gun laws that infringe on the 2nd amendment, you also generally don't see republicans pushing for more government control and oversight into people's daily lives. Want a large coke in NY? Fuck you, it's too fattening, we'll decide what you can drink, like the healthcare plan you already have? Well you can kee.. Oh wait no you can't! Well at least it'll be chea.. oh wait no no it won't.

Bubu..but.. BUSH AND HIS WARS! Obama and Lybia and Syria. Let's be honest here, unless we start voting in people who have consistent voting records, and a consistent message of honoring the Constitution, honoring the rights afforded to us in the Bill of Rights, you're going to get more of the same from either party.

The only people who appear to be doing that? Are the Ted Cruz and Rand Pauls, but what do you lefties do? You demonize them, call them nutbags, try to invalidate their message because apparently you enjoy more of the same? I don't know. Personally it makes no sense to me to think that way, but like I keep saying liberals and reality are often not even on the same page never mind in the same book.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 17:03
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 1, 2013, 17:03
Nov 1, 2013, 17:03
 
You do realize that the SIC is a bi-partisan committee, right? So blaming the democrats is laughable. Oh yeah, and the 4 votes against the bill? Those were democrats.

Oh, and the bill that was just launched The USA Freedom Act. Which looks to curtail these abuses and restore privacy to Americans was introduced and sponsored by....

Dick Durbin (D-Ill)
Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn)
Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii)
Tom Udall (D-NM)
Mark Begich (D-Alaska)
Tammy Baldwin (D-Wisc)
Martin Heinrich (D-NM)
Ed Markey (D-Mass)
Mark Udall (D-Colo)
Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass)
Jeff Merkley (D-Ore)
Jon Tester (D-Mont)
Joe Schatz (D-Hawaii)
Mike Lee (R-Utah)
Dean Heller (R-Nev)
Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska)

So once again we see the actual reality is that it's the GOP that's the problem. Jesus, people, you know if Trollin is spewing for for something it's wrong any way you slice. Just remember basically the opposite of everything he says is true.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 15:04
JSP
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 1, 2013, 15:04
Nov 1, 2013, 15:04
JSP
 
Republicans not raising taxes? I laugh. Remember Ronald Reagan? Republicans have been responsible in expanding government by unprecedented amount and increasing the deficit by unprecedented amount, nearly tanking the economy just a few years ago. Oh, and remember that war in Iraq that cost a trillion? Never Republican logic? I laugh and laugh. GTFO

They are the sides of the same coin I say, with the Libertarian tards thinking they are the answer lapping up Ron Paul's senile ramblings. Yeah you do that.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 14:11
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 1, 2013, 14:11
Nov 1, 2013, 14:11
 
Prez wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 13:46:
It seems as though politics has always been a case of the (slightly) lesser of two evils. Doesn't seem like it should be though...

It is really hard to elect a centrist in this political climate which is really unfortunate. I'm so tired of reading fringe dummies on the internet that my head is about checked out on politics altogether. You need to chase fringes to get headlines or whore yourself out to corporate interests for ad money. We can blame ourselves as much as we blame politicians.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 14:03
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Nov 1, 2013, 14:03
 
Bodolza wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 12:58:
In case your not sure how politics works, when it comes to voting time, the choice will either be Feinstein, or the Republican candidate, who's always even more authoritarian.

oh ffs, Pelosi, Obama, Reid, Feinstein, Bloomberg, all liberals, all about as authoritarian as they come.

Libertarians talk about protecting our rights and honoring the Constitution, which party goes out of their way to trash it on a regular basis? You guessed it, Liberals and Rino republicans, who may as well call themselves liberals.

Which party always wants to push tougher gun regulations? Hint it isn't republicans, which party always wants you and I to pay more in taxes so they can continue to spend like the world is ending tomorrow? Hint it isn't republicans.

Liberal logic, never once.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 13:46
Prez
 
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 1, 2013, 13:46
Nov 1, 2013, 13:46
 Prez
 
Bodolza wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 12:58:
In case your not sure how politics works, when it comes to voting time, the choice will either be Feinstein, or the Republican candidate, who's always even more authoritarian.

It seems as though politics has always been a case of the (slightly) lesser of two evils. Doesn't seem like it should be though...

jdreyer wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 13:06:

Yeah, if both Thundr and I agree on this issue, you gotta believe the rest of this country is united.

And that it is currently snowing in hell.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 13:30
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Nov 1, 2013, 13:30
 
Sorry, but Liberals hate Feinstein, she's a phoney Democrat and a war profiteer. You can blame us for keeping Boxer in office though, proud of it too.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 13:09
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 1, 2013, 13:09
Nov 1, 2013, 13:09
 
Bodolza wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 12:58:
In case your not sure how politics works, when it comes to voting time, the choice will either be Feinstein, or the Republican candidate, who's always even more authoritarian.

Yeah, she needs a primary. Despite being a Dem, she's pretty much corporate owned. Her husband is an investment banker, and I mean that in the worst sense of the word.
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Re: Morning Legal Briefs
Nov 1, 2013, 13:06
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Nov 1, 2013, 13:06
 
Beamer wrote on Nov 1, 2013, 12:05:

What I mean by united is the people. It's one issue virtually every non-politician has the same view on.

Yeah, if both Thundr and I agree on this issue, you gotta believe the rest of this country is united.
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