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10. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Oct 18, 2013, 08:45 gray
 
JoeNapalm wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 16:35:
Xero wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 16:08:
It's interesting how Blizz claimed in court that clients do not own WoW but rather it's licensed to each user. Next time you think of buying Blizz's WoW collectors, just know, you bought a collector's edition licensed usage, lol. You don't own it! Then again, I think anything that is online only could be said that way practically.

I hate to be the one to burst your bubble, there, but you don't own ANY of the software on your system.

You paid for a license to install and use it, but you don't own it.

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That's only true in the US of course. EULAs stating otherwise are invalid in the EU for example.
 
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9. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Oct 17, 2013, 20:48 Shok
 
Panickd wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 20:18:
Cutter wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 12:56:
Panickd wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 11:58:
One day one of these bot companies is going to pop up in Russia or China and Blizzard will win in court like they always do and the company is going to tell Blizzard to go fuck itself and laugh while watching Blizzard attempt to enforce the ruling.

They'll just cut them off by IP blocking them and banning whoever uses the product - as they do now.

They ban accounts. IP blocking would be idiotic since most ISPs dynamically allocate them and that would mean you risk blocking some player who did nothing wrong. And it's not like the creator of the bot is going to give a shit if a few people get their accounts banned for violating Blizzard's ToS if he's already got their money. This is a losing battle for Blizzard. Every time they shutter one group building bots for WoW a new one pops up to take it's place.

Not to mention blocking IP's would be pointless when all you'd need to do is log into a VPN to get a new IP...
 
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8. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Oct 17, 2013, 20:18 Panickd
 
Cutter wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 12:56:
Panickd wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 11:58:
One day one of these bot companies is going to pop up in Russia or China and Blizzard will win in court like they always do and the company is going to tell Blizzard to go fuck itself and laugh while watching Blizzard attempt to enforce the ruling.

They'll just cut them off by IP blocking them and banning whoever uses the product - as they do now.

They ban accounts. IP blocking would be idiotic since most ISPs dynamically allocate them and that would mean you risk blocking some player who did nothing wrong. And it's not like the creator of the bot is going to give a shit if a few people get their accounts banned for violating Blizzard's ToS if he's already got their money. This is a losing battle for Blizzard. Every time they shutter one group building bots for WoW a new one pops up to take it's place.
 
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7. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Oct 17, 2013, 16:39 Beamer
 
Xero wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 16:08:
It's interesting how Blizz claimed in court that clients do not own WoW but rather it's licensed to each user. Next time you think of buying Blizz's WoW collectors, just know, you bought a collector's edition licensed usage, lol. You don't own it! Then again, I think anything that is online only could be said that way practically.

I think it's hard to argue when it's an MMORPG like this. I mean, the game exists on the server, not the DVD. If that server goes then you have nothing.

It's like buying a season pass to Six Flags. Sure, your season pass may include a collector's edition towel, but you do not own the roller coaster, you just have a revokable pass to ride it.
 
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6. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Oct 17, 2013, 16:35 JoeNapalm
 
Xero wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 16:08:
It's interesting how Blizz claimed in court that clients do not own WoW but rather it's licensed to each user. Next time you think of buying Blizz's WoW collectors, just know, you bought a collector's edition licensed usage, lol. You don't own it! Then again, I think anything that is online only could be said that way practically.

I hate to be the one to burst your bubble, there, but you don't own ANY of the software on your system.

You paid for a license to install and use it, but you don't own it.


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5. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Oct 17, 2013, 16:08 Xero
 
It's interesting how Blizz claimed in court that clients do not own WoW but rather it's licensed to each user. Next time you think of buying Blizz's WoW collectors, just know, you bought a collector's edition licensed usage, lol. You don't own it! Then again, I think anything that is online only could be said that way practically.  
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4. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Oct 17, 2013, 13:21 Wallshadows
 
Cutter wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 12:56:
They'll just cut them off by IP blocking them and banning whoever uses the product - as they do now.

They only ban the account. Blocking the IP address could potentially allow others within the household to be unable to play, it's far too easy to bypass due to dynamic addresses provided by the ISP, and it's not in their interest to shut down a system that could provide another future sale.

 
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3. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Oct 17, 2013, 12:56 Cutter
 
Panickd wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 11:58:
One day one of these bot companies is going to pop up in Russia or China and Blizzard will win in court like they always do and the company is going to tell Blizzard to go fuck itself and laugh while watching Blizzard attempt to enforce the ruling.

They'll just cut them off by IP blocking them and banning whoever uses the product - as they do now.
 
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2. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Oct 17, 2013, 11:58 Panickd
 
One day one of these bot companies is going to pop up in Russia or China and Blizzard will win in court like they always do and the company is going to tell Blizzard to go fuck itself and laugh while watching Blizzard attempt to enforce the ruling.  
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1. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Oct 17, 2013, 09:31 Pigeon
 
Good for Blizzard, bots suck. I doubt it'll have a tremendous effect, but at least its something.  
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