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799. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 18:10 RollinThundr
 
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 17:34:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 17:08:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 17:02:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:59:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:55:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:50:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:40:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:35:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:13:
Shhhh. Don't tell Beamer the feds collected a record $2.77 trillion in tax revenue this year.

Do you understand how that's a meaningless data point?
1) What is it if you adjust for inflation? Here's a hint: it's on par with 12 years ago
2) What is it as a portion of the total US income?

Throwing out a number in a vacuum and comparing it to past years is utterly ridiculous

Read and dismiss the facts yourself.

Revenue jumped 15.2 percent to $301.4 billion in September from a year earlier, bringing the annual figure to $2.77 trillion, today’s report showed. Spending increased 21.5 percent to $226.4 billion last month, contributing to a 12-month total of $3.45 trillion, it showed.

What from that link had anything to do with anything?
You posted a meaningless data point. We took in more taxes. But we made more money. Doesn't that make sense?

Conveniently left out the we spent more part too.

That isn't what we were discussing, is it?

Of course not, how could spending ever have an effect on the economy, silly me, I forgot, liberal logic.

Honestly, I may have missed why he brought it up, I didn't see any mention of spending prior.

But, as I keep saying, my interest in taxes isn't in allowing our government to spend more, it's in encouraging our super wealthy to pay their employees more. Therefore I want taxes higher. I do not want the government spending all those taxes stupidly, I just do not want the wealthy having incentive to cut jobs and send them overseas. Spending is an entirely different discussion. As it always should be - when discussing problems, discussing each variable separately makes more sense than discussing them together, because they aren't necessarily related. We can tax as much as we want, or we can spend as much as we want, those aren't inherently tied together.

You always think I want the government spending tons and tons of money. I don't really care. I don't think that has a big impact on our economy. People spending money has a big impact. I've asked you, in the past, to explain how a government deficit impacts our economy. You've repeatedly said something like "use your head!" but never answered.
Pretend I'm a 5 year old and tell me why a deficit is holding our economy back. I'll do the same and explain to you why our rapidly rising wealth inequality (on par with most African warlords, truthfully) is totally flushing us.

So I had thought he brought it up as an example that our taxes are already quite high. In reality, they're about as low as they've been in over 100 years.

First of all, are you dreaming? Where has higher taxes, during a recession, encouraged businesses to do anything other than close up and move to another state or country? That's what we're talking about. And that's precisely what is happening here in liberal Connecticut. Higher taxes when the economy is still shit only makes it worse for everybody. Taxes are raised when the economy is doing well. When industry is booming. Especially post-WW2 industry when there was the US and nobody else. Those are the periods you are referencing but don't even realize it because you either don't know or deliberately ignore facts.

Also, if the $17 trillion debt doesn't matter then neither should taxes. How about eliminating all tax, ignore the debt, and let the fed continue printing trillions and spending it on more bullshit. Yeah, that never worked before but somehow OBAMA.

Almost makes one want to say Learn 2 Economics. This is why anytime we have liberals in office the economy eventually tanks, Carter, Clinton, Obama. What do they all have in common? Fucking up the economy, or taking a fucked up economy due to previous liberal choices and making it worse, in Obama's case, Clinton eliminating the Glass Steagall act and forcing banks to loan to people beyond their means eventually caused the bubble to burst, like simple economics would tell you it would.
 
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798. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 17:34 Mad Max RW
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 17:08:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 17:02:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:59:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:55:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:50:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:40:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:35:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:13:
Shhhh. Don't tell Beamer the feds collected a record $2.77 trillion in tax revenue this year.

Do you understand how that's a meaningless data point?
1) What is it if you adjust for inflation? Here's a hint: it's on par with 12 years ago
2) What is it as a portion of the total US income?

Throwing out a number in a vacuum and comparing it to past years is utterly ridiculous

Read and dismiss the facts yourself.

Revenue jumped 15.2 percent to $301.4 billion in September from a year earlier, bringing the annual figure to $2.77 trillion, today’s report showed. Spending increased 21.5 percent to $226.4 billion last month, contributing to a 12-month total of $3.45 trillion, it showed.

What from that link had anything to do with anything?
You posted a meaningless data point. We took in more taxes. But we made more money. Doesn't that make sense?

Conveniently left out the we spent more part too.

That isn't what we were discussing, is it?

Of course not, how could spending ever have an effect on the economy, silly me, I forgot, liberal logic.

Honestly, I may have missed why he brought it up, I didn't see any mention of spending prior.

But, as I keep saying, my interest in taxes isn't in allowing our government to spend more, it's in encouraging our super wealthy to pay their employees more. Therefore I want taxes higher. I do not want the government spending all those taxes stupidly, I just do not want the wealthy having incentive to cut jobs and send them overseas. Spending is an entirely different discussion. As it always should be - when discussing problems, discussing each variable separately makes more sense than discussing them together, because they aren't necessarily related. We can tax as much as we want, or we can spend as much as we want, those aren't inherently tied together.

You always think I want the government spending tons and tons of money. I don't really care. I don't think that has a big impact on our economy. People spending money has a big impact. I've asked you, in the past, to explain how a government deficit impacts our economy. You've repeatedly said something like "use your head!" but never answered.
Pretend I'm a 5 year old and tell me why a deficit is holding our economy back. I'll do the same and explain to you why our rapidly rising wealth inequality (on par with most African warlords, truthfully) is totally flushing us.

So I had thought he brought it up as an example that our taxes are already quite high. In reality, they're about as low as they've been in over 100 years.

First of all, are you dreaming? Where has higher taxes, during a recession, encouraged businesses to do anything other than close up and move to another state or country? That's what we're talking about. And that's precisely what is happening here in liberal Connecticut. Higher taxes when the economy is still shit only makes it worse for everybody. Taxes are raised when the economy is doing well. When industry is booming. Especially post-WW2 industry when there was the US and nobody else. Those are the periods you are referencing but don't even realize it because you either don't know or deliberately ignore facts.

Also, if the $17 trillion debt doesn't matter then neither should taxes. How about eliminating all tax, ignore the debt, and let the fed continue printing trillions and spending it on more bullshit. Yeah, that never worked before but somehow OBAMA.
 
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797. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 17:17 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 17:08:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 17:02:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:59:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:55:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:50:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:40:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:35:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:13:
Shhhh. Don't tell Beamer the feds collected a record $2.77 trillion in tax revenue this year.

Do you understand how that's a meaningless data point?
1) What is it if you adjust for inflation? Here's a hint: it's on par with 12 years ago
2) What is it as a portion of the total US income?

Throwing out a number in a vacuum and comparing it to past years is utterly ridiculous

Read and dismiss the facts yourself.

Revenue jumped 15.2 percent to $301.4 billion in September from a year earlier, bringing the annual figure to $2.77 trillion, today’s report showed. Spending increased 21.5 percent to $226.4 billion last month, contributing to a 12-month total of $3.45 trillion, it showed.

What from that link had anything to do with anything?
You posted a meaningless data point. We took in more taxes. But we made more money. Doesn't that make sense?

Conveniently left out the we spent more part too.

That isn't what we were discussing, is it?

Of course not, how could spending ever have an effect on the economy, silly me, I forgot, liberal logic.

Honestly, I may have missed why he brought it up, I didn't see any mention of spending prior.

But, as I keep saying, my interest in taxes isn't in allowing our government to spend more, it's in encouraging our super wealthy to pay their employees more. Therefore I want taxes higher. I do not want the government spending all those taxes stupidly, I just do not want the wealthy having incentive to cut jobs and send them overseas. Spending is an entirely different discussion. As it always should be - when discussing problems, discussing each variable separately makes more sense than discussing them together, because they aren't necessarily related. We can tax as much as we want, or we can spend as much as we want, those aren't inherently tied together.

You always think I want the government spending tons and tons of money. I don't really care. I don't think that has a big impact on our economy. People spending money has a big impact. I've asked you, in the past, to explain how a government deficit impacts our economy. You've repeatedly said something like "use your head!" but never answered.
Pretend I'm a 5 year old and tell me why a deficit is holding our economy back. I'll do the same and explain to you why our rapidly rising wealth inequality (on par with most African warlords, truthfully) is totally flushing us.

So I had thought he brought it up as an example that our taxes are already quite high. In reality, they're about as low as they've been in over 100 years.

So let me get this right before I have another hearty chuckle, you think by raising taxes more (keeping in mind you could raise taxes on the 1% 100% and it would do zero to reduce the deficit) to entice them to pay more?

If they're not paying people enough now do you honestly. And please, for once be honest, think raising taxes is going to make them increase their payrolls?

We don't have a tax problem, we have a spending problem.

Edit: to answer your question, it doesn't build very much consumer confidence in regards to any sort of spending when your government is 18 fucking trillion in debt with no end in sight.

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796. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 17:08 Beamer
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 17:02:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:59:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:55:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:50:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:40:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:35:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:13:
Shhhh. Don't tell Beamer the feds collected a record $2.77 trillion in tax revenue this year.

Do you understand how that's a meaningless data point?
1) What is it if you adjust for inflation? Here's a hint: it's on par with 12 years ago
2) What is it as a portion of the total US income?

Throwing out a number in a vacuum and comparing it to past years is utterly ridiculous

Read and dismiss the facts yourself.

Revenue jumped 15.2 percent to $301.4 billion in September from a year earlier, bringing the annual figure to $2.77 trillion, today’s report showed. Spending increased 21.5 percent to $226.4 billion last month, contributing to a 12-month total of $3.45 trillion, it showed.

What from that link had anything to do with anything?
You posted a meaningless data point. We took in more taxes. But we made more money. Doesn't that make sense?

Conveniently left out the we spent more part too.

That isn't what we were discussing, is it?

Of course not, how could spending ever have an effect on the economy, silly me, I forgot, liberal logic.

Honestly, I may have missed why he brought it up, I didn't see any mention of spending prior.

But, as I keep saying, my interest in taxes isn't in allowing our government to spend more, it's in encouraging our super wealthy to pay their employees more. Therefore I want taxes higher. I do not want the government spending all those taxes stupidly, I just do not want the wealthy having incentive to cut jobs and send them overseas. Spending is an entirely different discussion. As it always should be - when discussing problems, discussing each variable separately makes more sense than discussing them together, because they aren't necessarily related. We can tax as much as we want, or we can spend as much as we want, those aren't inherently tied together.

You always think I want the government spending tons and tons of money. I don't really care. I don't think that has a big impact on our economy. People spending money has a big impact. I've asked you, in the past, to explain how a government deficit impacts our economy. You've repeatedly said something like "use your head!" but never answered.
Pretend I'm a 5 year old and tell me why a deficit is holding our economy back. I'll do the same and explain to you why our rapidly rising wealth inequality (on par with most African warlords, truthfully) is totally flushing us.

So I had thought he brought it up as an example that our taxes are already quite high. In reality, they're about as low as they've been in over 100 years.
 
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795. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 17:02 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:59:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:55:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:50:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:40:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:35:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:13:
Shhhh. Don't tell Beamer the feds collected a record $2.77 trillion in tax revenue this year.

Do you understand how that's a meaningless data point?
1) What is it if you adjust for inflation? Here's a hint: it's on par with 12 years ago
2) What is it as a portion of the total US income?

Throwing out a number in a vacuum and comparing it to past years is utterly ridiculous

Read and dismiss the facts yourself.

Revenue jumped 15.2 percent to $301.4 billion in September from a year earlier, bringing the annual figure to $2.77 trillion, today’s report showed. Spending increased 21.5 percent to $226.4 billion last month, contributing to a 12-month total of $3.45 trillion, it showed.

What from that link had anything to do with anything?
You posted a meaningless data point. We took in more taxes. But we made more money. Doesn't that make sense?

Conveniently left out the we spent more part too.

That isn't what we were discussing, is it?

Of course not, how could spending ever have an effect on the economy, silly me, I forgot, liberal logic.
 
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794. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 16:59 Beamer
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:55:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:50:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:40:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:35:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:13:
Shhhh. Don't tell Beamer the feds collected a record $2.77 trillion in tax revenue this year.

Do you understand how that's a meaningless data point?
1) What is it if you adjust for inflation? Here's a hint: it's on par with 12 years ago
2) What is it as a portion of the total US income?

Throwing out a number in a vacuum and comparing it to past years is utterly ridiculous

Read and dismiss the facts yourself.

Revenue jumped 15.2 percent to $301.4 billion in September from a year earlier, bringing the annual figure to $2.77 trillion, today’s report showed. Spending increased 21.5 percent to $226.4 billion last month, contributing to a 12-month total of $3.45 trillion, it showed.

What from that link had anything to do with anything?
You posted a meaningless data point. We took in more taxes. But we made more money. Doesn't that make sense?

Conveniently left out the we spent more part too.

That isn't what we were discussing, is it?
 
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793. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 16:55 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:50:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:40:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:35:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:13:
Shhhh. Don't tell Beamer the feds collected a record $2.77 trillion in tax revenue this year.

Do you understand how that's a meaningless data point?
1) What is it if you adjust for inflation? Here's a hint: it's on par with 12 years ago
2) What is it as a portion of the total US income?

Throwing out a number in a vacuum and comparing it to past years is utterly ridiculous

Read and dismiss the facts yourself.

Revenue jumped 15.2 percent to $301.4 billion in September from a year earlier, bringing the annual figure to $2.77 trillion, today’s report showed. Spending increased 21.5 percent to $226.4 billion last month, contributing to a 12-month total of $3.45 trillion, it showed.

What from that link had anything to do with anything?
You posted a meaningless data point. We took in more taxes. But we made more money. Doesn't that make sense?

Conveniently left out the we spent more part too.
 
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792. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 16:54 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:46:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:35:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:13:
Shhhh. Don't tell Beamer the feds collected a record $2.77 trillion in tax revenue this year.

Do you understand how that's a meaningless data point?
1) What is it if you adjust for inflation? Here's a hint: it's on par with 12 years ago
2) What is it as a portion of the total US income?

Throwing out a number in a vacuum and comparing it to past years is utterly ridiculous

You say that because our tax rate is lowest it's ever been that's why we have a deficit, say "spending doesn't matter." And now say record tax revenues also don't matter, economics aren't your strong point are they beamer?

TLDR if we weren't spending so much for the sake of it, we wouldn't be in the mess we are. BUT HURP DURP Liberal logic, SPENDING DOESN'T MATTER TAX THE 1% MOAR!!!


Research Log: Oct 31, 2013 15:46
Subject was observed flinging his own poo again.

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791. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 16:50 Beamer
 
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:40:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:35:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:13:
Shhhh. Don't tell Beamer the feds collected a record $2.77 trillion in tax revenue this year.

Do you understand how that's a meaningless data point?
1) What is it if you adjust for inflation? Here's a hint: it's on par with 12 years ago
2) What is it as a portion of the total US income?

Throwing out a number in a vacuum and comparing it to past years is utterly ridiculous

Read and dismiss the facts yourself.

Revenue jumped 15.2 percent to $301.4 billion in September from a year earlier, bringing the annual figure to $2.77 trillion, today’s report showed. Spending increased 21.5 percent to $226.4 billion last month, contributing to a 12-month total of $3.45 trillion, it showed.

What from that link had anything to do with anything?
You posted a meaningless data point. We took in more taxes. But we made more money. Doesn't that make sense?
 
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790. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 16:46 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:35:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:13:
Shhhh. Don't tell Beamer the feds collected a record $2.77 trillion in tax revenue this year.

Do you understand how that's a meaningless data point?
1) What is it if you adjust for inflation? Here's a hint: it's on par with 12 years ago
2) What is it as a portion of the total US income?

Throwing out a number in a vacuum and comparing it to past years is utterly ridiculous

You say that because our tax rate is lowest it's ever been that's why we have a deficit, say "spending doesn't matter." And now say record tax revenues also don't matter, economics aren't your strong point are they beamer?

TLDR if we weren't spending so much for the sake of it, we wouldn't be in the mess we are. BUT HURP DURP Liberal logic, SPENDING DOESN'T MATTER TAX THE 1% MOAR!!!

 
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789. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 16:46 Beamer
 
Actually, I can clarify for Mad Max why his number is bogus.

US total personal income in 2012 was $13,401,868,693 per U.S. Department of Commerce, Bureau of Economic Analysis.
US total taxation in 2012 was 2,770,000,000, per Mad Max (I don't question him, just don't have a readily available source.)
That's about 20.67%.

US total personal income in 2000 was 8,554,866,000. That's a 57% growth rate, by the way. Do you guys feel you're making 57% more?
US total taxation in 2000 was $1,805,566,000 ($2,449,320.53 in 2013 dollars.)
That was a 21.11% tax rate.

So yes, record tax year. But record total personal income year. In reality, it was a lower tax rate than 2000.
 
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788. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 16:40 Mad Max RW
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:35:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:13:
Shhhh. Don't tell Beamer the feds collected a record $2.77 trillion in tax revenue this year.

Do you understand how that's a meaningless data point?
1) What is it if you adjust for inflation? Here's a hint: it's on par with 12 years ago
2) What is it as a portion of the total US income?

Throwing out a number in a vacuum and comparing it to past years is utterly ridiculous

Read and dismiss the facts yourself.

Revenue jumped 15.2 percent to $301.4 billion in September from a year earlier, bringing the annual figure to $2.77 trillion, today’s report showed. Spending increased 21.5 percent to $226.4 billion last month, contributing to a 12-month total of $3.45 trillion, it showed.
 
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787. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 16:35 Beamer
 
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:13:
Shhhh. Don't tell Beamer the feds collected a record $2.77 trillion in tax revenue this year.

Do you understand how that's a meaningless data point?
1) What is it if you adjust for inflation? Here's a hint: it's on par with 12 years ago
2) What is it as a portion of the total US income?

Throwing out a number in a vacuum and comparing it to past years is utterly ridiculous
 
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786. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 16:28 RollinThundr
 
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 16:13:
Shhhh. Don't tell Beamer the feds collected a record $2.77 trillion in tax revenue this year.

But but HERR DURR Government provides better than charity!!
 
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785. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 16:13 Mad Max RW
 
Shhhh. Don't tell Beamer the feds collected a record $2.77 trillion in tax revenue this year.  
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784. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 16:06 RollinThundr
 
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 15:50:
Prez wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 15:30:
Okay, RT and D-Rock, what exactly is your purpose in continuing this thread then? If the people who are debating you are "assholes", "brain-dead liberals", "typical bleeding heart hypocrites", "delusional liberal shills" ,etc, etc, etc, then why even bother? And please don't say because it is amusing. That's the go-to excuse for everyone to just beat a dead horse on the internet. I'm sure there are better things for you to do if all you were looking for was amusement.

All I'm saying is that I think Beamer is an asshole. That's it.
There's a reason why some of the most respected members of Blue's have him on ignore.

This pretty much, and sorry Prez, it's actually is quite amusing when you confront them with fact and the best they can do is try and twist what you said to mean something you never said at all just to make themselves feel "right"

Liberals don't deal in logic or facts, when presented with hard facts or hard economic numbers as to why doing things the way they suggest would either cost more, or out right fail, they get so furious.

There's a reason they had to go the route of infesting the department of education to try to redefine what's considered common fucking sense to anyone who didn't have the misfortune of being a product of the public school system or who isn't just a low information low fact voter in the first place.

There's a reason the Obama zealots thought Obama was going to pay their mortgages upon being elected or thought a vote for Obama would mean more free stuff for them. Liberalism is a disease, its a product of a ever becoming lazy entitled society, and if left unchecked WILL be the down fall of the US along with our failure to stop printing and spending money for the sake of printing and spending money.

That's not to say the republicans are innocent, not by a long shot, the issue is liberals lump conservatives all together in one pot, including libertarians who strive for smaller, more efficient government, reductions in spending, and immigration reform. A libertarian is not even in the same class as a Rino like a Newt or a Romney. It's also why they demonize the Cruz's and Paul's as nutjobs because they fear the idea of big daddy government being reduced in any sense of the world. They need big daddy government to tell them how to live.



 
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783. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 16:03 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Well, I admit that I've only continued posting in this thread for my own amusement, and because I think of RT as a lab chimp. I'm curious to see how he responds to various stimuli. Observations to date have established that he usually just flings poo.  
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781. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 15:30 RollinThundr
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 15:02:
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:55:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:47:
It's good to know that widowed mothers working multiple part time jobs to make end meet don't have a fucking life and aren't productive members of society.


Geez Beamer -- can you lighten up for once?
Yeah Beamer! It's really a low blow to confront them with the inevitable results of the policies they advocate!

As opposed to a welfare state mentality? ROFLMAO Liberalism never once.
 
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780. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 15:30 Prez
 
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 15:02:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:58:
LOL never fails, never said that, in fact a few posts ago, I mention that not all welfare or assistance is bad, keep grasping for straws and putting words in people's mouths to try to invalidate them. That tactic has worked so well for you so far.

I have a theory on that. He's an asshole. Major asshole. Simple as that.

Okay, RT and D-Rock, what exactly is your purpose in continuing this thread then? If the people who are debating you are "assholes", "brain-dead liberals", "typical bleeding heart hypocrites", "delusional liberal shills" ,etc, etc, etc, then why even bother? And please don't say because it is amusing. That's the go-to excuse for everyone to just beat a dead horse on the internet. I'm sure there are better things for you to do if all you were looking for was amusement.
 
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