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219. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 18, 2013, 08:16 RollinThundr
 
Redmask wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 07:10:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 00:34:
Beamer wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 21:16:
Oh god, did he really mention "Obama phone?" And he claims to be knowledgeable?

Apparently your sarcasm meter is off.

What's that? You're sorry for being wrong and lying about it? How big of you to admit it instead of trying the worlds most pathetic slinkaway that fooled no one.

The guy preaching about personal responsibility won't take responsibility for a dumb post he made on the internet using a crafted persona. That's either really hypocritical or cowardly, possibly both.

Of anyone you're the perfect example of pot meet kettle.
 
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217. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 18, 2013, 07:10 Redmask
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 00:34:
Beamer wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 21:16:
Oh god, did he really mention "Obama phone?" And he claims to be knowledgeable?

Apparently your sarcasm meter is off.

What's that? You're sorry for being wrong and lying about it? How big of you to admit it instead of trying the worlds most pathetic slinkaway that fooled no one.

The guy preaching about personal responsibility won't take responsibility for a dumb post he made on the internet using a crafted persona. That's either really hypocritical or cowardly, possibly both.

This comment was edited on Oct 18, 2013, 07:41.
 
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216. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 18, 2013, 05:34 RollinThundr
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 00:55:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 00:36:
Dirwulf wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 21:01:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:26:
Redmask wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:20:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:16:
Yeah as a parent it's your job, not the government's.

Hahah that was in a thread about in app phone purchases, good try to save face though!





Sure thing cupcake, doesn't make it any less true. Speaking of phones has Obama paid your mortgage and given you a shiny Obama phone yet? Allthumbsup

You should really educate yourself about the Lifeline program. There really is no such thing as an Obama phone, but you like to spread lies and Dittohead bullshit.

Do some research on who George Soros is, then come back and bitch about the Koch brothers. That's the thing with the more left/moderate leaning folks on this site. They demonize the Republicans all day long for this or that, yet not one peep that their own do it just as much if not more.
Dude, what are you talking about? Nobody said anything about Soros not funding liberal groups. What I, and others, took issue with was your claim that the TP was just a grass-roots thing rather than a creation of the Koch brothers. That was entirely wrong, as it's been pointed out to you. They've been working on the TP thing for over a decade. You can stop making your ridiculous claim now.

Here's the thing, if you people are so upset that a group would like to actually respect the US Constitution and follow it, while at the same time being fine with a socialist douchenozzle like Soros doing the same exact thing for far longer pushing "progressive" drivel, I have zero to say to you.


I didn't realize either that Jenny Beth Martin, you know the person who actually co founded the tea party movement was a Koch brother. Keep drinking that liberal media kool aid however (grape drank flavor no doubt). Ridiculous claims indeed.

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215. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 18, 2013, 00:55 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 00:36:
Dirwulf wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 21:01:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:26:
Redmask wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:20:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:16:
Yeah as a parent it's your job, not the government's.

Hahah that was in a thread about in app phone purchases, good try to save face though!


Sure thing cupcake, doesn't make it any less true. Speaking of phones has Obama paid your mortgage and given you a shiny Obama phone yet? Allthumbsup

You should really educate yourself about the Lifeline program. There really is no such thing as an Obama phone, but you like to spread lies and Dittohead bullshit.

Do some research on who George Soros is, then come back and bitch about the Koch brothers. That's the thing with the more left/moderate leaning folks on this site. They demonize the Republicans all day long for this or that, yet not one peep that their own do it just as much if not more.
Dude, what are you talking about? Nobody said anything about Soros not funding liberal groups. What I, and others, took issue with was your claim that the TP was just a grass-roots thing rather than a creation of the Koch brothers. That was entirely wrong, as it's been pointed out to you. They've been working on the TP thing for over a decade. You can stop making your ridiculous claim now.
 
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214. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 18, 2013, 00:39 Sepharo
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 18, 2013, 00:34:
Beamer wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 21:16:
Oh god, did he really mention "Obama phone?" And he claims to be knowledgeable?

Apparently your sarcasm meter is off.

Yeah he was just trollin.
See it's like Poe's law you can't tell when he's being sincere and when he's parodying the rhetoric that he uh, usually supports. Wait that's not Poe's law.

Are you parodying yourself Rollin? I'm not sure what law of the internet that is.

edit: The Soros thing is sarcasm too right?
 
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213. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 18, 2013, 00:36 jdreyer
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 18:13:
The tea party wasn't started by the Koch Brothers, they simply latched onto it. At any rate George Soros is just as bad if not worse. Again BOTH parties do this shit, yet only the republicans get repeatedly blasted for it. It's hypocrisy at it's finest.

Wow, can't believe this thread is still going.

Not sure why I'm bothering, but here goes. The Repubs get blasted for a few reasons.

1. They Fund Crazies. Soros isn't funding the Communist party. If he did, we'd be hearing about it, constantly. The tea party is the right wing equivalent. Also, Soros didn't fund candidates, but the right funded some crazy candidacies: Adelson funded Gingrich's candidacy, and Friess funded Santorum (don't Google that ). Both of those guys are nuts who never would have been viable if not for billionaire backers.

2. They Fund Much More. Conservative private funding is much higher than liberal. Since Americans HATE the influence of private money, obviously the people doing it more will get more attention.

3. They Fund Radical Ideas. The right spends to deny people their rights. The right spends to prevent any reasonable gun control that 90% of people support. They fund anti Global Warming astroturf groups to gin up false controversies. They fund anti-evolution and other anti-science agendas. They fund the Tea Party not to enact legislation, but to attempt to sabotage the government. When you spend a quarter of a billion dollars (and this is just one group) funding these kinds of causes, that gets you noticed. There's nothing equivalent on the liberal side.

So, yes, "both sides do it" but it's not in any way comparable.
 
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212. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 18, 2013, 00:36 RollinThundr
 
Dirwulf wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 21:01:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:26:
Redmask wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:20:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:16:
Yeah as a parent it's your job, not the government's.

Hahah that was in a thread about in app phone purchases, good try to save face though!


Sure thing cupcake, doesn't make it any less true. Speaking of phones has Obama paid your mortgage and given you a shiny Obama phone yet? Allthumbsup

You should really educate yourself about the Lifeline program. There really is no such thing as an Obama phone, but you like to spread lies and Dittohead bullshit.

Do some research on who George Soros is, then come back and bitch about the Koch brothers. That's the thing with the more left/moderate leaning folks on this site. They demonize the Republicans all day long for this or that, yet not one peep that their own do it just as much if not more.
 
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211. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 18, 2013, 00:34 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 21:16:
Oh god, did he really mention "Obama phone?" And he claims to be knowledgeable?

Apparently your sarcasm meter is off.
 
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210. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 17, 2013, 22:26 Redmask
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:26:
Sure thing cupcake, doesn't make it any less true. Speaking of phones has Obama paid your mortgage and given you a shiny Obama phone yet? Allthumbsup

FCC site on Lifeline

and the truth about who actually started it:

"The Lifeline program originated in 1984, during the administration of Ronald Reagan; it was expanded in 1996, during the administration of Bill Clinton; and its first cellular provider service (SafeLink Wireless) was launched by TracFone in 2008, during the administration of George W. Bush. All of these milestones were passed prior to the advent of the Obama administration."

So you either did no actual research and believed some dumb attack ad at face value or lied yourself. I'll take my apology with cherries on top 'cupcake' hahah
 
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209. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 17, 2013, 22:05 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 18:13:
The tea party wasn't started by the Koch Brothers, they simply latched onto it. At any rate George Soros is just as bad if not worse. Again BOTH parties do this shit, yet only the republicans get repeatedly blasted for it. It's hypocrisy at it's finest.

If by "latched onto it" you mean "planned it for years in advance". Here's a website from a group they were funding over ten years ago: this is from 2002

They turned it from a fairly small, disorganized group of pissed off people into a large, well-organized, well-publicized, pseudo-third-party by throwing millions of dollars at it. So, no, it's really not just some grass-roots group. The Kochs bankrolled it, and Murdoch made Fox into their media arm.
 
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208. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 17, 2013, 21:16 Beamer
 
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207. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 17, 2013, 21:01 Dirwulf
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:26:
Redmask wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:20:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:16:
Yeah as a parent it's your job, not the government's.

Hahah that was in a thread about in app phone purchases, good try to save face though!


Sure thing cupcake, doesn't make it any less true. Speaking of phones has Obama paid your mortgage and given you a shiny Obama phone yet? Allthumbsup

You should really educate yourself about the Lifeline program. There really is no such thing as an Obama phone, but you like to spread lies and Dittohead bullshit.
 
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206. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 17, 2013, 20:22 Dades
 
Just give it up, it's painful to watch everyone obliterate your empty opinions.

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205. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 17, 2013, 18:13 RollinThundr
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 17:14:
Prez wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 16:52:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 11:49:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 09:17:
Verno wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 09:11:
Prez wrote on Oct 16, 2013, 17:56:

While I admire the strength of conviction of these men, they are purely idealists, not great leaders. A leader understands he has to give something in order to get something; how to compromise and when to stand your ground and when to pack it in and live to fight another day. Uncompromising men are often easier to admire than compromising men, but it is the compromising ones that get things done for the general welfare of the people. They also know how to separate personal religious values from all-encompassing legislation that affects the whole nation. They do not try to legislate their personal moral code upon everyone as they understand that not everyone believes as they do but everyone still has the same right of pursuit of their own happiness.

Well said Prez. Look at what this latest fiasco has cost us. Who came out looking worse? Most polls say the GOP. What was achieved? Nothing. A lot of money and time wasted, not to mention political capital and public opinion.

Yeah it's a shame the liberal media won't actually blame Obama for anything. That's why the public perception is "congress' fault"
Obama's just as much at fault, he's proven he's a terrible leader and unwilling to work with the other guys, in the same breath blaming the other guys for not compromising. They're both guilty.
The Dems had already compromised to a CR to fund at below Ryan plan levels. Boehner already agreed to that, but went back on it after he couldn't get the TP to go along. The TP decided that if they can't get what they want, they'll try to force a default and wreck the economy. It's hostage-taking 101. You don't deal with hostage-takers. You keep the pressure on them until you find a way to put a bullet in them without killing the hostages or until they give up. The saner parts of the GOP managed to get enough control to give up for now.

I wouldn't want Boehner's position for the world. He is in a constant lose-lose situation - cater to the considerable extreme right wing of the party and get blamed for gridlock. Try to compromise and get viciously attacked by your own party for being a sell-out. All the while the opposition criticizes you whatever you do.

No doubt. It's hard to be sympathetic though, since it was their own gerrymandering and rabble-rousing that created these ultraconservative districts that are biting them in the ass now. Funny that even the Koch brothers are trying to distance themselves from the Tea Party that they bankrolled. They counted on being able to control the crazy, forgetting that that's crazy in itself

The tea party wasn't started by the Koch Brothers, they simply latched onto it. At any rate George Soros is just as bad if not worse. Again BOTH parties do this shit, yet only the republicans get repeatedly blasted for it. It's hypocrisy at it's finest.
 
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204. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 17, 2013, 17:14 Wowbagger_TIP
 
Prez wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 16:52:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 11:49:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 09:17:
Verno wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 09:11:
Prez wrote on Oct 16, 2013, 17:56:

While I admire the strength of conviction of these men, they are purely idealists, not great leaders. A leader understands he has to give something in order to get something; how to compromise and when to stand your ground and when to pack it in and live to fight another day. Uncompromising men are often easier to admire than compromising men, but it is the compromising ones that get things done for the general welfare of the people. They also know how to separate personal religious values from all-encompassing legislation that affects the whole nation. They do not try to legislate their personal moral code upon everyone as they understand that not everyone believes as they do but everyone still has the same right of pursuit of their own happiness.

Well said Prez. Look at what this latest fiasco has cost us. Who came out looking worse? Most polls say the GOP. What was achieved? Nothing. A lot of money and time wasted, not to mention political capital and public opinion.

Yeah it's a shame the liberal media won't actually blame Obama for anything. That's why the public perception is "congress' fault"
Obama's just as much at fault, he's proven he's a terrible leader and unwilling to work with the other guys, in the same breath blaming the other guys for not compromising. They're both guilty.
The Dems had already compromised to a CR to fund at below Ryan plan levels. Boehner already agreed to that, but went back on it after he couldn't get the TP to go along. The TP decided that if they can't get what they want, they'll try to force a default and wreck the economy. It's hostage-taking 101. You don't deal with hostage-takers. You keep the pressure on them until you find a way to put a bullet in them without killing the hostages or until they give up. The saner parts of the GOP managed to get enough control to give up for now.

I wouldn't want Boehner's position for the world. He is in a constant lose-lose situation - cater to the considerable extreme right wing of the party and get blamed for gridlock. Try to compromise and get viciously attacked by your own party for being a sell-out. All the while the opposition criticizes you whatever you do.

No doubt. It's hard to be sympathetic though, since it was their own gerrymandering and rabble-rousing that created these ultraconservative districts that are biting them in the ass now. Funny that even the Koch brothers are trying to distance themselves from the Tea Party that they bankrolled. They counted on being able to control the crazy, forgetting that that's crazy in itself
 
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203. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 17, 2013, 16:52 Prez
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 11:49:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 09:17:
Verno wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 09:11:
Prez wrote on Oct 16, 2013, 17:56:

While I admire the strength of conviction of these men, they are purely idealists, not great leaders. A leader understands he has to give something in order to get something; how to compromise and when to stand your ground and when to pack it in and live to fight another day. Uncompromising men are often easier to admire than compromising men, but it is the compromising ones that get things done for the general welfare of the people. They also know how to separate personal religious values from all-encompassing legislation that affects the whole nation. They do not try to legislate their personal moral code upon everyone as they understand that not everyone believes as they do but everyone still has the same right of pursuit of their own happiness.

Well said Prez. Look at what this latest fiasco has cost us. Who came out looking worse? Most polls say the GOP. What was achieved? Nothing. A lot of money and time wasted, not to mention political capital and public opinion.

Yeah it's a shame the liberal media won't actually blame Obama for anything. That's why the public perception is "congress' fault"
Obama's just as much at fault, he's proven he's a terrible leader and unwilling to work with the other guys, in the same breath blaming the other guys for not compromising. They're both guilty.
The Dems had already compromised to a CR to fund at below Ryan plan levels. Boehner already agreed to that, but went back on it after he couldn't get the TP to go along. The TP decided that if they can't get what they want, they'll try to force a default and wreck the economy. It's hostage-taking 101. You don't deal with hostage-takers. You keep the pressure on them until you find a way to put a bullet in them without killing the hostages or until they give up. The saner parts of the GOP managed to get enough control to give up for now.

I wouldn't want Boehner's position for the world. He is in a constant lose-lose situation - cater to the considerable extreme right wing of the party and get blamed for gridlock. Try to compromise and get viciously attacked by your own party for being a sell-out. All the while the opposition criticizes you whatever you do.
 
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202. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 17, 2013, 15:32 Verno
 
Redmask wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 14:30:
Did you see his attempt at a lecture about parents and morality last week? If you had I think you would have dismissed him alot sooner. It is one of the worst things I've seen on the internet.

I missed it but that's pretty classic "I don't have children but I have this loud opinion" hot air balloon stuff.

Well this sure was a thread, can't remember the last time we went to 200.
 
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201. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 17, 2013, 15:26 RollinThundr
 
Redmask wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:20:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:16:
Yeah as a parent it's your job, not the government's.

Hahah that was in a thread about in app phone purchases, good try to save face though!


Sure thing cupcake, doesn't make it any less true. Speaking of phones has Obama paid your mortgage and given you a shiny Obama phone yet? Allthumbsup
 
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200. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 17, 2013, 15:20 Redmask
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 17, 2013, 15:16:
Yeah as a parent it's your job, not the government's.

Hahah that was in a thread about in app phone purchases, good try to save face though!

 
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