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479. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 21:01 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 20:53:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 20:41:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 18:43:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 18:40:
Dude, could you just answer the damn question? Which proposal do you think violates the 2nd amendment and why? I'm not seeing it.

Watch the videos and use your brain. I think you're capable of that.
I already told you I don't see what the hell you're talking about. So either tell us what exactly is violating the 2nd amendment or just shut up about the whole thing and quit wasting our time with link spam.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Here you have Obama talking about making executive orders to not only force a gun registry database, and for what? But to strip rights that are not to be infringed.

His gun bills have all failed, so what does he do? Circumvent the process and goes right to executive orders.

Mark my words, this guy is the single most dangerous president we've ever had.

Which one of those 23 proposals establishes a gun registry? I don't see it. If you expect anyone to understand why you are so pissed about this, you're gonna have to articulate your argument here. You're not doing that right now. Please try again.
 
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478. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 20:53 RollinThundr
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 20:41:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 18:43:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 18:40:
Dude, could you just answer the damn question? Which proposal do you think violates the 2nd amendment and why? I'm not seeing it.

Watch the videos and use your brain. I think you're capable of that.
I already told you I don't see what the hell you're talking about. So either tell us what exactly is violating the 2nd amendment or just shut up about the whole thing and quit wasting our time with link spam.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Here you have Obama talking about making executive orders to not only force a gun registry database, and for what? But to strip rights that are not to be infringed.

His gun bills have all failed, so what does he do? Circumvent the process and goes right to executive orders.

Mark my words, this guy is the single most dangerous president we've ever had.
 
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477. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 20:41 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 18:43:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 18:40:
Dude, could you just answer the damn question? Which proposal do you think violates the 2nd amendment and why? I'm not seeing it.

Watch the videos and use your brain. I think you're capable of that.
I already told you I don't see what the hell you're talking about. So either tell us what exactly is violating the 2nd amendment or just shut up about the whole thing and quit wasting our time with link spam.
 
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476. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 19:20 RollinThundr
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 19:09:
Rollin for a guy who's constantly harping on about the media you sure do get a lot of your information from people ranting into a camera.

I don't like it any more than you do but seriously, wake the fuck up. This administration is fucking dangerous.
 
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475. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 19:17 Dades
 
This is hilarious, it's like like watching people trying to explain trigonometry to a baboon.

- DADES - This is a signature of my name, enjoy!
 
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474. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 19:09 Sepharo
 
Rollin for a guy who's constantly harping on about the media you sure do get a lot of your information from people ranting into a camera.  
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473. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 19:06 Sepharo
 
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 18:45:
And the trainwreck continues:

Company behind Obamacare website in charge of nearly $2 billion in Sandy relief

Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare website

I'd like to hear your summary of why you think the facts in those two articles contribute to a trainwreck.

Never been there before, but I actually got to hand it to that website because those are some pretty solid articles. Just the facts without spinning or trying to draw any conclusions (the comments on the other hand ). Though the first article would probably benefit from a clearer headline, they're in charge of the IT infrastructure and services for aid distribution not the money itself.
 
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471. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 18:43 RollinThundr
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 18:40:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 18:30:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 18:11:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:59:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:33:
Maybe come up with something specific rather than just ranting. Which proposal violates the 2nd Amendment, and how?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRfn7CKih4c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1xk8LQ2iLA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi1c2JOSxwI

Wake up. Just please wake the fuck up.

Ok, you're gonna have to be more specific than that. I just watched the first one, and I have no fucking idea what you're talking about. How does anything he said there violate the 2nd amendment?

Watch the 3rd one especially. They're using Newtown to force a political agenda, it's fucking sickening.

Edit: more of the Messiah's EO's. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBj7wj0Lx7c

Edit2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMejQMpK_6Q

Dude, could you just answer the damn question? Which proposal do you think violates the 2nd amendment and why? I'm not seeing it.

Watch the videos and use your brain. I think you're capable of that.
 
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470. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 18:40 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 18:30:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 18:11:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:59:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:33:
Maybe come up with something specific rather than just ranting. Which proposal violates the 2nd Amendment, and how?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRfn7CKih4c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1xk8LQ2iLA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi1c2JOSxwI

Wake up. Just please wake the fuck up.

Ok, you're gonna have to be more specific than that. I just watched the first one, and I have no fucking idea what you're talking about. How does anything he said there violate the 2nd amendment?

Watch the 3rd one especially. They're using Newtown to force a political agenda, it's fucking sickening.

Edit: more of the Messiah's EO's. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBj7wj0Lx7c

Edit2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMejQMpK_6Q

Dude, could you just answer the damn question? Which proposal do you think violates the 2nd amendment and why? I'm not seeing it.
 
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469. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 18:30 RollinThundr
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 18:11:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:59:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:33:
Maybe come up with something specific rather than just ranting. Which proposal violates the 2nd Amendment, and how?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRfn7CKih4c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1xk8LQ2iLA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi1c2JOSxwI

Wake up. Just please wake the fuck up.

Ok, you're gonna have to be more specific than that. I just watched the first one, and I have no fucking idea what you're talking about. How does anything he said there violate the 2nd amendment?

Watch the 3rd one especially. They're using Newtown to force a political agenda, it's fucking sickening.

Edit: more of the Messiah's EO's. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBj7wj0Lx7c

Edit2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMejQMpK_6Q
Edit3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdQnTPdIn9I

Wake the fuck up.

Edit4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUB6zdgSzio
Do you want more evidence or is that enough to start?

This comment was edited on Oct 26, 2013, 18:42.
 
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468. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 18:11 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:59:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:33:
Maybe come up with something specific rather than just ranting. Which proposal violates the 2nd Amendment, and how?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRfn7CKih4c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1xk8LQ2iLA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi1c2JOSxwI

Wake up. Just please wake the fuck up.

Ok, you're gonna have to be more specific than that. I just watched the first one, and I have no fucking idea what you're talking about. How does anything he said there violate the 2nd amendment?
 
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467. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 18:09 Sepharo
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:59:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:33:
Maybe come up with something specific rather than just ranting. Which proposal violates the 2nd Amendment, and how?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRfn7CKih4c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1xk8LQ2iLA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi1c2JOSxwI

Wake up. Just please wake the fuck up.

I looked over the 23 executive orders in the description of the third video. Which one violates the 2nd amendment?
 
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466. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 17:59 RollinThundr
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:33:
Maybe come up with something specific rather than just ranting. Which proposal violates the 2nd Amendment, and how?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRfn7CKih4c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1xk8LQ2iLA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi1c2JOSxwI

Wake up. Just please wake the fuck up.
 
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465. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 17:56 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:40:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:33:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 16:53:
It's forcing a service by federal mandate, they're abusing the commerce clause by calling it a tax. Period, end of fucking story.
No, the end of the story is that it IS a tax, as the USSC confirmed. That's how it's implemented, therefore that's what it is.

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 16:53:
Neither do you, Obama or any president for that matter, CANNOT redefine rights that are protected by the Constitution, which is an anti evolutionary device drafted to prevent mob mentality deciding how to redefine the laws of the land. The bullshit line that it's a living evolving document is just that, total and outright bullshit.
Maybe come up with something specific rather than just ranting. Which proposal violates the 2nd Amendment, and how?

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 16:53:
Self defense is self defense, the Zimmerman case had zero to do with stand your ground, the media circus made it about stand your ground when it had zero to do with the case in reality. That does not excuse Obama's comments on it, or on Martin to try and tug at heart strings or sway people to make him look like a victim. It was an unprecedented thing for a POTUS to do to begin with.
I don't recall saying anything about SYG in my post. Once again, you're not reading the actual post, but just creating a straw man. Martin was a victim of homicide. Whether it was justified or not, we'll never know. Obama has just as much right to speak his mind as any other citizen. That's one of those Amendments you're always talking about, remember? You don't have to agree with him, but aside from calling for re-evaluation of SYG laws (which weren't really a factor here), I don't see anything wrong with his comments.

You said bullshit law, what bullshit law were you talking about then?
I said "bad law", and I was referring to FL's self-defense laws.

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:40:
There's plenty of Black on White crime every day, why hasn't he weighed in on any of those cases?
Because the perpetrators were arrested and charged, so they didn't become national news that involved a current hot-button issue?
 
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464. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 17:40 RollinThundr
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:33:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 16:53:
It's forcing a service by federal mandate, they're abusing the commerce clause by calling it a tax. Period, end of fucking story.
No, the end of the story is that it IS a tax, as the USSC confirmed. That's how it's implemented, therefore that's what it is.

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 16:53:
Neither do you, Obama or any president for that matter, CANNOT redefine rights that are protected by the Constitution, which is an anti evolutionary device drafted to prevent mob mentality deciding how to redefine the laws of the land. The bullshit line that it's a living evolving document is just that, total and outright bullshit.
Maybe come up with something specific rather than just ranting. Which proposal violates the 2nd Amendment, and how?

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 16:53:
Self defense is self defense, the Zimmerman case had zero to do with stand your ground, the media circus made it about stand your ground when it had zero to do with the case in reality. That does not excuse Obama's comments on it, or on Martin to try and tug at heart strings or sway people to make him look like a victim. It was an unprecedented thing for a POTUS to do to begin with.
I don't recall saying anything about SYG in my post. Once again, you're not reading the actual post, but just creating a straw man. Martin was a victim of homicide. Whether it was justified or not, we'll never know. Obama has just as much right to speak his mind as any other citizen. That's one of those Amendments you're always talking about, remember? You don't have to agree with him, but aside from calling for re-evaluation of SYG laws (which weren't really a factor here), I don't see anything wrong with his comments.

You said bullshit law, what bullshit law were you talking about then? There's plenty of Black on White crime every day, why hasn't he weighed in on any of those cases?
 
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463. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 17:33 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 16:53:
It's forcing a service by federal mandate, they're abusing the commerce clause by calling it a tax. Period, end of fucking story.
No, the end of the story is that it IS a tax, as the USSC confirmed. That's how it's implemented, therefore that's what it is.

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 16:53:
Neither do you, Obama or any president for that matter, CANNOT redefine rights that are protected by the Constitution, which is an anti evolutionary device drafted to prevent mob mentality deciding how to redefine the laws of the land. The bullshit line that it's a living evolving document is just that, total and outright bullshit.
Maybe come up with something specific rather than just ranting. Which proposal violates the 2nd Amendment, and how?

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 16:53:
Self defense is self defense, the Zimmerman case had zero to do with stand your ground, the media circus made it about stand your ground when it had zero to do with the case in reality. That does not excuse Obama's comments on it, or on Martin to try and tug at heart strings or sway people to make him look like a victim. It was an unprecedented thing for a POTUS to do to begin with.
I don't recall saying anything about SYG in my post. Once again, you're not reading the actual post, but just creating a straw man. Martin was a victim of homicide. Whether it was justified or not, we'll never know. Obama has just as much right to speak his mind as any other citizen. That's one of those Amendments you're always talking about, remember? You don't have to agree with him, but aside from calling for re-evaluation of SYG laws (which weren't really a factor here), I don't see anything wrong with his comments.
 
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462. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 17:31 Prez
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:31:
Prez he said "Period".
I don't think you're allowed to respond.
Woops!

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:31:
Prez wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:30:
It's forcing a service by federal mandate, they're abusing the commerce clause by calling it a tax. Period, end of fucking story.

Well the Supreme Court has ruled the penalty a tax, which is within Constitutionally-granted Congressional power, so it is in fact Constitution as decreed by the Supreme Court. A majority conservative Supreme Court no less. You are not mandated to buy health care; you are just made to pay a penalty if you don't.

They redefined it as a tax to get around it, but let's call it for what it really is please.

Doesn't matter what you call it; it is Constitutional. Um, woops again!
 
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461. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 17:31 Sepharo
 
Prez he said "Period".
I don't think you're allowed to respond.
 
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460. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 17:31 RollinThundr
 
Prez wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 17:30:
It's forcing a service by federal mandate, they're abusing the commerce clause by calling it a tax. Period, end of fucking story.

Well the Supreme Court has ruled the penalty a tax, which is within Constitutionally-granted Congressional power, so it is in fact Constitution as decreed by the Supreme Court. A majority conservative Supreme Court no less. You are not mandated to buy health care; you are just made to pay a penalty if you don't.

They redefined it as a tax to get around it, but let's call it for what it really is please.
 
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