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519. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 10:40 Beamer
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 10:33:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 10:22:
You said: "He's also made reference to executive orders on the 2nd amendment which is not in his power to do."

Then you posted links to videos that specifically reference the 23 EOs that Obama laid out after Sandy Hook. It was only later that you started posted vids about other EOs.

So, yeah, you were talking about the 2nd amendment-related EOs. Would you care to retract that claim now since you can't seem to defend it?

Ahh ok, I see where the confusion is, I was referring to his comment that "I can do this via EO" not that he did. Sorry for the confusion there. However I still believe some if not all of those 23 are not legal. Especially confiscating private property, and work camps, ala fema camps which we have evidence have been popping up all over.

I've never heard as much mention of a fore coming martial law than I have in the last year or so. And I certainly wouldn't put it past him, the guy isn't genuine, it's obvious.

Stop that. "Work camps."
Cite specific EOs. Cite phrases in them and your interpretation of them. Then cite the constitution.
Here, I can help:
Here is every EO Obama has issued, as a list and Here is the substance of them.

I won't find the Constitution for you, and it's fairly important you cite specific passages and your interpretation, because I don't believe you have much experience interpreting legalese and would like to see the specifics of how you get your opinions. I mean, I just googled +Obama +"work camps," and aside from the fact that the first 3 hits are all sketchy websites designed to get hits not give information, there are several Yahoo! Answers amazed at Obama's plan to put children to work, which is just an example of people completely failing to read anything beyond a Golden Book.
 
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518. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 10:33 RollinThundr
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 10:22:
You said: "He's also made reference to executive orders on the 2nd amendment which is not in his power to do."

Then you posted links to videos that specifically reference the 23 EOs that Obama laid out after Sandy Hook. It was only later that you started posted vids about other EOs.

So, yeah, you were talking about the 2nd amendment-related EOs. Would you care to retract that claim now since you can't seem to defend it?

Ahh ok, I see where the confusion is, I was referring to his comment that "I can do this via EO" not that he did. Sorry for the confusion there. However I still believe some if not all of those 23 are not legal. Especially confiscating private property, and work camps, ala fema camps which we have evidence have been popping up all over.

I've never heard as much mention of a fore coming martial law than I have in the last year or so. And I certainly wouldn't put it past him, the guy isn't genuine, it's obvious.
 
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517. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 10:33 Beamer
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 08:21:

Beamer wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 02:03:
Guys, guys, I'm sure he can post some poorly made, unsourced YouTube video that explains everything with ocersimplifications, misunderstandings, typos, comic sans a killer soundtrack.

And I'm sure you can change your situation depending on the topic, like you have a couple times already. I take anything you say with a grain of salt at this point, you've proven you're full of shit more often than not.


Oh, you tiny little monkey.
GIVE US SPECIFICS

You said
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 13:16:
I dunno between all his EO's most of which I would think violate the Constitution, his stance on guns, ramming through Obamacare and lying about it. The fact that the dollar could very well collapse any day now and honestly did in 2008 and we'll be Greece before you know it.

Everyone is asking for you to post one, just one, EO that violates the Constitution. In specifics. What about the EO is unconstitutional (of course, you already claimed things are unconstitutional the SC said are constitutional, so your interpretations are pretty much meaningless, but the accuracy of the SC is a separate debate.)

You haven't. You've posted idiotic YouTube videos, but you've yet to even say what one of his EOs are, let alone specifically what it violates in the constitution.



You also accuse me of changing my situation. You fail to give specifics here, too. D-ROCK said I claimed to be gay in a thread. I, unlike you, am capable of giving specifics, so I tracked down that post and, you know what, nowhere in it do I even imply to be gay. He's just such a tool that he can't fathom someone caring deeply about equality without being gay. I'm fairly certain you are every bit as much of a racist little troll that you also can't imagine someone vehemently defending equality without being a minority, so when you see me bitching about white privilege your tiny little brain, likely about the size of a rodent's (ADHOM!) can't understand that a white person believes this. It's funny, searching my history for "white" would be pretty inflammatory for a non-white to be saying. But you're a cretin, somehow with a municipal job, too, despite being heavily prejudice, and you fail to understand that white people can believe in injustice to non-white people. Just like you can't believe that anyone not super-fully-100% liberal would ever disagree with a single idiotic word your brain manages to type out.

So that's your task:
- First link us to a single EO and write a short essay, you can probably do it in 75-100 words, on why it's unconstitutional, complete with references to passages of the Constitution
- Second, find a single time my story has been inconsistent and I've claimed to be a minority.


If you can't do either of those, shut up.
If you can only respond with attacks, which are so great coming from a guy repeatedly claiming that no one does anything but attack him (always whining about adhoms while making his own attacks, failing to see the hypocrisy), or if you can only respond with YouTube videos, or if you can only respond by pretending different questions are asked, or if you can only respond with generalities that don't point to a specific EO, Constitutional passage, or post from me, then shut up.

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516. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 10:22 Wowbagger_TIP
 
You said: "He's also made reference to executive orders on the 2nd amendment which is not in his power to do."

Then you posted links to videos that specifically reference the 23 EOs that Obama laid out after Sandy Hook. It was only later that you started posted vids about other EOs.

So, yeah, you were talking about the 2nd amendment-related EOs. Would you care to retract that claim now since you can't seem to defend it?
 
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515. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 09:47 Mad Max RW
 
The Obamacare exchanges in my state are still down

Data center glitch is latest problem in 'Obamacare' rollout

Simultaneously my state government is flooding the television with advertisements practically begging us to sign up at the same time enrollment is impossible. Again it's the fault of an outside contractor.
 
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514. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 09:41 RollinThundr
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 09:18:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 08:21:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 00:46:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 23:36:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:16:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:02:
nin wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 20:40:

"I'm going to make these crazy statements, but I'm much too busy to back them up with any facts..."

durpa durpa dunder...

Derpa derpa derp. Da derp derpa derpity derp. Derp derp!
At least he's confirmed once and for all that he has nothing of substance to say and is incapable of having a rational discussion.

Where in the constitution does it grant a president to make EO's like that? Point it out for me smart guy, if anything, when you read especially the 5th amendment in regards to property alone, some of those are unconstitutional. You guys are either obtuse or really love obama's cock or some shit.

If you're not going to name the specific EOs of the 23 related to the gun issue that we've been talking about, and explain exactly how those violate the constitution, then I'll just continue to believe you're still just derping along in your decidedly non-blissful ignorance. I'm not going down another rabbit hole until you show that you can conclude a discussion about a single issue.

READ THE ENTIRE LIST regardless if its about guns. JFC you are obtuse. HELLO MC FLY? ANYONE HOME IN THERE? NO?

No. You made the specific claim that "most" of the 23 EOs Obama laid out related to the gun issue were unconstitutional. I want you to back that up with specifics about which EOs violate which parts of the Constitution. If you refuse, then there's no further point in discussing anything.

I never made one such claim, I said his EO's were on their own most likely unconstitutional, I'm not sure where you're getting the gun part in all that. In fact if you actually look at those which I still doubt you have, you'd be alarmed too, this goes beyond party, that shit is just wrong.

And for Q, Muslim patrols in East London stab US Student for drinking a beer. http://tinyurl.com/noqewa3
religion of peace!
 
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513. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 09:23 nin
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 09:18:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 08:21:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 00:46:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 23:36:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:16:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:02:
nin wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 20:40:

"I'm going to make these crazy statements, but I'm much too busy to back them up with any facts..."

durpa durpa dunder...

Derpa derpa derp. Da derp derpa derpity derp. Derp derp!
At least he's confirmed once and for all that he has nothing of substance to say and is incapable of having a rational discussion.

Where in the constitution does it grant a president to make EO's like that? Point it out for me smart guy, if anything, when you read especially the 5th amendment in regards to property alone, some of those are unconstitutional. You guys are either obtuse or really love obama's cock or some shit.

If you're not going to name the specific EOs of the 23 related to the gun issue that we've been talking about, and explain exactly how those violate the constitution, then I'll just continue to believe you're still just derping along in your decidedly non-blissful ignorance. I'm not going down another rabbit hole until you show that you can conclude a discussion about a single issue.

READ THE ENTIRE LIST regardless if its about guns. JFC you are obtuse. HELLO MC FLY? ANYONE HOME IN THERE? NO?

No. You made the specific claim that "most" of the 23 EOs Obama laid out related to the gun issue were unconstitutional. I want you to back that up with specifics. If you refuse, then there's no further point in discussing anything.

I think I've decided it's like Jeopardy. You have to phrase your question in a way one of his videos can answer. Otherwise, he has no idea how to respond.

 
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512. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 09:18 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 08:21:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 00:46:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 23:36:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:16:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:02:
nin wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 20:40:

"I'm going to make these crazy statements, but I'm much too busy to back them up with any facts..."

durpa durpa dunder...

Derpa derpa derp. Da derp derpa derpity derp. Derp derp!
At least he's confirmed once and for all that he has nothing of substance to say and is incapable of having a rational discussion.

Where in the constitution does it grant a president to make EO's like that? Point it out for me smart guy, if anything, when you read especially the 5th amendment in regards to property alone, some of those are unconstitutional. You guys are either obtuse or really love obama's cock or some shit.

If you're not going to name the specific EOs of the 23 related to the gun issue that we've been talking about, and explain exactly how those violate the constitution, then I'll just continue to believe you're still just derping along in your decidedly non-blissful ignorance. I'm not going down another rabbit hole until you show that you can conclude a discussion about a single issue.

READ THE ENTIRE LIST regardless if its about guns. JFC you are obtuse. HELLO MC FLY? ANYONE HOME IN THERE? NO?

No. You made the specific claim that "most" of the 23 EOs Obama laid out related to the gun issue were unconstitutional. I want you to back that up with specifics about which EOs violate which parts of the Constitution. If you refuse, then there's no further point in discussing anything.
 
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511. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 08:21 RollinThundr
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 00:46:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 23:36:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:16:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:02:
nin wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 20:40:

"I'm going to make these crazy statements, but I'm much too busy to back them up with any facts..."

durpa durpa dunder...

Derpa derpa derp. Da derp derpa derpity derp. Derp derp!
At least he's confirmed once and for all that he has nothing of substance to say and is incapable of having a rational discussion.

Where in the constitution does it grant a president to make EO's like that? Point it out for me smart guy, if anything, when you read especially the 5th amendment in regards to property alone, some of those are unconstitutional. You guys are either obtuse or really love obama's cock or some shit.

If you're not going to name the specific EOs of the 23 related to the gun issue that we've been talking about, and explain exactly how those violate the constitution, then I'll just continue to believe you're still just derping along in your decidedly non-blissful ignorance. I'm not going down another rabbit hole until you show that you can conclude a discussion about a single issue.

READ THE ENTIRE LIST regardless if its about guns. JFC you are obtuse. HELLO MC FLY? ANYONE HOME IN THERE? NO?

Beamer wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 02:03:
Guys, guys, I'm sure he can post some poorly made, unsourced YouTube video that explains everything with ocersimplifications, misunderstandings, typos, comic sans a killer soundtrack.

And I'm sure you can change your situation depending on the topic, like you have a couple times already. I take anything you say with a grain of salt at this point, you've proven you're full of shit more often than not.

 
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510. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 02:03 Beamer
 
Guys, guys, I'm sure he can post some poorly made, unsourced YouTube video that explains everything with ocersimplifications, misunderstandings, typos, comic sans a killer soundtrack.  
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509. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 00:46 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 23:36:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:16:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:02:
nin wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 20:40:

"I'm going to make these crazy statements, but I'm much too busy to back them up with any facts..."

durpa durpa dunder...

Derpa derpa derp. Da derp derpa derpity derp. Derp derp!
At least he's confirmed once and for all that he has nothing of substance to say and is incapable of having a rational discussion.

Where in the constitution does it grant a president to make EO's like that? Point it out for me smart guy, if anything, when you read especially the 5th amendment in regards to property alone, some of those are unconstitutional. You guys are either obtuse or really love obama's cock or some shit.

If you're not going to name the specific EOs of the 23 related to the gun issue that we've been talking about, and explain exactly how those violate the constitution, then I'll just continue to believe you're still just derping along in your decidedly non-blissful ignorance. I'm not going down another rabbit hole until you show that you can conclude a discussion about a single issue.
 
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508. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 27, 2013, 23:36 RollinThundr
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:16:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:02:
nin wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 20:40:

"I'm going to make these crazy statements, but I'm much too busy to back them up with any facts..."

durpa durpa dunder...

Derpa derpa derp. Da derp derpa derpity derp. Derp derp!
At least he's confirmed once and for all that he has nothing of substance to say and is incapable of having a rational discussion.

Where in the constitution does it grant a president to make EO's like that? Point it out for me smart guy, if anything, when you read especially the 5th amendment in regards to property alone, some of those are unconstitutional. You guys are either obtuse or really love obama's cock or some shit.
 
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507. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 27, 2013, 21:30 Mad Max RW
 
Oh goodie! How many hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars did they already flush down the toilet making the site? Well now they want to start over.

Obamacare website might have to be rebuilt

Obama may as well have hired EA to build this mess.
 
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506. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 27, 2013, 21:20 nin
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:16:
trollindunder wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:02:
nin wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 20:40:

"I'm going to make these crazy statements, but I'm much too busy to back them up with any facts..."

durpa durpa dunder...

Derpa derpa derp. Da derp derpa derpity derp. Derp derp!
At least he's confirmed once and for all that he has nothing of substance to say and is incapable of having a rational discussion.

It's all about talking heads and buzzword bingo with him. He hears shit he thinks sounds great, and then parrots it...

 
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505. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 27, 2013, 21:16 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 21:02:
nin wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 20:40:

"I'm going to make these crazy statements, but I'm much too busy to back them up with any facts..."

durpa durpa dunder...

Derpa derpa derp. Da derp derpa derpity derp. Derp derp!
At least he's confirmed once and for all that he has nothing of substance to say and is incapable of having a rational discussion.
 
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504. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 27, 2013, 21:02 RollinThundr
 
nin wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 20:40:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 20:34:
trollindunder wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 18:26:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 18:02:
So how long are you going to keep dodging my question? How do any of the 23 EOs violate the Constitution?


You've obvious never even read the contents of the Constitution, start with the first and work your way up, you'll figure it out I think.
So you can't say which one violates it, nor can you say how. So you're just full of shit and wasting my time.

"I'm going to make these crazy statements, but I'm much too busy to back them up with any facts..."

durpa durpa dunder...


I'm going to never contribute to a discussion, violate the site rules and only personally attack other members derpa derpa nin's a douchebag.

If you idiots think a president is within his power to write EO's like that, then you don't even fucking deserve your rights and freedoms. None of you have either 1. Read the damn Constitution, or 2. have a fucking brain.
 
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502. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 27, 2013, 20:34 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 18:26:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 18:02:
So how long are you going to keep dodging my question? How do any of the 23 EOs violate the Constitution?


You've obvious never even read the contents of the Constitution, start with the first and work your way up, you'll figure it out I think.
So you can't say which one violates it, nor can you say how. So you're just full of shit and wasting my time.
 
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501. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 27, 2013, 18:26 RollinThundr
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 18:02:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 17:47:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 17:18:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 16:11:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 15:15:
And it gets even better as liberal Californians who supported the law are discovering they have to pay up:
Some health insurance gets pricier as Obamacare rolls out - Many middle-class Californians with individual health plans are surprised they need policies that cover more — and cost more.


Pam Kehaly, president of Anthem Blue Cross in California, said she received a recent letter from a young woman complaining about a 50% rate hike related to the healthcare law.

"She said, 'I was all for Obamacare until I found out I was paying for it,'" Kehaly said.

Classic.

Notice how none of the usual suspects are defending any of this.

I'm still waiting for you to explain how any (let alone most) of the EOs violate the Constitution. I don't plan to engage on any other topics until we settle at least one. You changing the subject constantly is just tedious.

So, I'll ask once again, please do explain which EOs violate the Constitution, and how.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBj7wj0Lx7c

Since when can a president sign into order the right for the government to not only seize all means of transportation, both public and private, Since when can the government take over food production and farms? Since when can the government mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision? Either you refuse to watch the same link I've posted 5 times or you're fine with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x14IF7f3tLw

So how long are you going to keep dodging my question? How do any of the 23 EOs violate the Constitution?


You've obvious never even read the contents of the Constitution, start with the first and work your way up, you'll figure it out I think.
 
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500. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 27, 2013, 18:22 RollinThundr
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 18:02:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 17:47:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 17:18:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 16:11:
Mad Max RW wrote on Oct 27, 2013, 15:15:
And it gets even better as liberal Californians who supported the law are discovering they have to pay up:
Some health insurance gets pricier as Obamacare rolls out - Many middle-class Californians with individual health plans are surprised they need policies that cover more — and cost more.


Pam Kehaly, president of Anthem Blue Cross in California, said she received a recent letter from a young woman complaining about a 50% rate hike related to the healthcare law.

"She said, 'I was all for Obamacare until I found out I was paying for it,'" Kehaly said.

Classic.

Notice how none of the usual suspects are defending any of this.

I'm still waiting for you to explain how any (let alone most) of the EOs violate the Constitution. I don't plan to engage on any other topics until we settle at least one. You changing the subject constantly is just tedious.

So, I'll ask once again, please do explain which EOs violate the Constitution, and how.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBj7wj0Lx7c

Since when can a president sign into order the right for the government to not only seize all means of transportation, both public and private, Since when can the government take over food production and farms? Since when can the government mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision? Either you refuse to watch the same link I've posted 5 times or you're fine with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x14IF7f3tLw

So how long are you going to keep dodging my question? How do any of the 23 EOs violate the Constitution?

You've never read the document, that much is obvious. Do your own research.
 
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