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559. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 17:43 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 17:34:
What facts?
Whining and carrying on

I already said guns aren't the issue, demographics are. Gang bangers are always going to gang bang and not follow laws, that should be common fucking sense. HEY LET'S PASS MORE RESTRICTIVE GUN LEGISLATION THAT WILL ONLY AFFECT LAW ABIDING CITIZENS111!!!!

OBOZO FTW!111eleventy! Get bent douche.
 
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558. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 17:40 Sepharo
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 17:39:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 17:33:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 17:29:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 17:27:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 17:25:
5 mins of searching oh look another Journalist getting intimidated.
Getting the picture yet libs? Still think your buddy slick is genuine?

http://tinyurl.com/k532zwk

How many more cases like this need to pop up? Like I said, I generally don't buy into conspiracy shit but when you hear a new one every day even ON mainstream news, well wtf.

What happened to the Aurora shooter's dad and Newtown shooter's dad in some case together conspiracy?

Do your own research, stop blindly trusting. Do you think it's alright for a journalist to have her private files taken without cause?

Not at all. I've already said the way this administration has been acting towards journalists is unacceptable. I hope that whoever authorized the actions described in that article is fired and prosecuted for gross overreach and abuse of power.

But why the fuck can't you stay on topic? Why do you ignore questions about topics that you bring up?

Setting the stage Seph, you wonder why I think Obama would want to remove guns from the US, add all the shit coming out, benghazi, the irs scandal, the lies about Obamacare, that none of our allies trust him, bugging Merkel's and more than likely other foreign leader's phones etc.

Is any of this type of behavior fit for a POTUS? Regardless of party. You wonder why I say he's dangerous? It's not because I lean conservative, it's because he's fucking dangerous.

I don't wonder any of that shit... I know you're crazy. You don't have to explain to me why you think the things you do. You're not exactly a unique snowflake. I could read youtube comments or pop on the infowars forum to read the same stuff.

But you brought up false flags, said something about the shooters' dads in a case. I'd like to hear more. What was that all about?
 
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557. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 17:39 RollinThundr
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 17:33:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 17:29:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 17:27:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 17:25:
5 mins of searching oh look another Journalist getting intimidated.
Getting the picture yet libs? Still think your buddy slick is genuine?

http://tinyurl.com/k532zwk

How many more cases like this need to pop up? Like I said, I generally don't buy into conspiracy shit but when you hear a new one every day even ON mainstream news, well wtf.

What happened to the Aurora shooter's dad and Newtown shooter's dad in some case together conspiracy?

Do your own research, stop blindly trusting. Do you think it's alright for a journalist to have her private files taken without cause?

Not at all. I've already said the way this administration has been acting towards journalists is unacceptable. I hope that whoever authorized the actions described in that article is fired and prosecuted for gross overreach and abuse of power.

But why the fuck can't you stay on topic? Why do you ignore questions about topics that you bring up?

Setting the stage Seph, you wonder why I think Obama would want to remove guns from the US, add all the shit coming out, benghazi, the irs scandal, the lies about Obamacare, that none of our allies trust him, bugging Merkel's and more than likely other foreign leader's phones etc.

Is any of this type of behavior fit for a POTUS? Regardless of party. You wonder why I say he's dangerous? It's not because I lean conservative, it's because he's fucking dangerous.
 
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556. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 17:34 Beamer
 
What facts?
What attack?

Here are the facts:
1) You claimed Obama signed 23 Executive Orders on gun control that almost all violated the Constitution
2) People asked you to support this
3) You posted YouTube videos
4) People asked you what you were talking about, as the YouTube videos cleared nothing up and were lengthy
5) You called them stupid liberals
6) People asked what was going on, and what 23 Executive Orders you meant
7) You brought up Obamacare
8) People again asked what Orders you meant and how they were unconstitutional
9) You told them to open their eyes and brought up Benghazi
10) People again begged you to go back to what 23 Orders you had vaguely mentioned
11) I gave you a list of Executive Orders and asked you which ones you meant
12) You said your Orders weren't on there, "mysteriously," implying some liberal agenda. You showed one Order that you felt proved this
13) I pointed out that it wasn't an Executive Order that you pointed to, but an Executive Action, which is not the same thing and OF COURSE isn't on a list of Executive Orders. I again asked which 23 you meant
14) You said "Whatever, action, order..." which probably means you don't even understand what an Executive Order is, who it affects, how binding it is, etc.
15) You accused me of pretending to be black, but failed to bring up any instance in which I did so
16) I finally dug up the 23 Executive Orders myself, which also proved to be Actions. Regardless, I asked you to point out which ones were unconstitutional. I also said it was fluff and stupid showmanship by a president failing to take actions on much of anything and really disappointing everyone
17) You called me being partisan, immediately after I ranted on Obama's effectiveness (or lack thereof.) Not sure how that's possible
18) You brought up Benghazi again
19) I again asked you to point out what was unconstitutional in those 23 actions
20) You said "Look at this stat, which I do not have, and this stat, which I do not have, and figure it out." You offer no citations, no links, not even a number. You just say "look it up"
21) I ask you why you changed the topic, as I never mentioned state gun crime rates, I specifically asked you to point out which of the 23 Actions that you claimed are "almost all" unconstitutional you feel are actually unconstitutional
22) You claim that giving uncited "comparisons" without actually making a comparison, is "called using facts." But you never gave a fact. You never fucking gave a fact. You said "look at an orange, and look at a tangerine." THAT ISN'T FUCKING USING FACTS YOU TINY, TINY BRAINED CRETIN. YOU DID NOT EVEN MENTION A FACT. YOU SAID "LOOK AT." TELLING SOMEONE TO LOOK AT SOMETHING IS NOT FUCKING USING A FACT"

FOR FUCKSSAKE, THIS IS USING A FACT:
"New Hampshire, which has very few gun control laws, has a very low gun violence rate, falling into the bottom 20% of states. California, in contrast, has very strict gun control laws yet has a high gun control issue, falling in the top 5 states." SEE HOW THERE ARE FUCKING FACTS IN THAT STATEMENT? SEE HOW YOU DID NOT FUCKING DO THAT? SEE THE GIANT FUCKING DIFFERENCE!?

I won't even get into the substantive holes in that argument (NH is less concentrated, so people get into fewer conflicts as they see each other less, and land is less of an issue. There's less poverty, and more importantly, less disparity between wealth. Most people tend to be middle class, and all they know is middle class, whereas in California you have the super rich living next door to the super poor. Violent crime is overwhelmingly committed by the super poor, but also tends to very commonly happen in areas where there is a great deal of money but also a great deal of people without any. NH does not have a great deal of money, and does not have a great disparity, so there's little to fight over and little to achieve by this fighting.)

I will not address any of this, though, RollinThundr, until you get back to the original point:
WHICH OF THOSE 23 EXECUTIVE ACTIONS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND WHY?
 
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555. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 17:33 Sepharo
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 17:29:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 17:27:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 17:25:
5 mins of searching oh look another Journalist getting intimidated.
Getting the picture yet libs? Still think your buddy slick is genuine?

http://tinyurl.com/k532zwk

How many more cases like this need to pop up? Like I said, I generally don't buy into conspiracy shit but when you hear a new one every day even ON mainstream news, well wtf.

What happened to the Aurora shooter's dad and Newtown shooter's dad in some case together conspiracy?

Do your own research, stop blindly trusting. Do you think it's alright for a journalist to have her private files taken without cause?

Not at all. I've already said the way this administration has been acting towards journalists is unacceptable. I hope that whoever authorized the actions described in that article is fired and prosecuted for gross overreach and abuse of power.

But why the fuck can't you stay on topic? Why do you ignore questions about topics that you bring up?
 
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554. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 17:29 RollinThundr
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 17:27:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 17:25:
5 mins of searching oh look another Journalist getting intimidated.
Getting the picture yet libs? Still think your buddy slick is genuine?

http://tinyurl.com/k532zwk

How many more cases like this need to pop up? Like I said, I generally don't buy into conspiracy shit but when you hear a new one every day even ON mainstream news, well wtf.

What happened to the Aurora shooter's dad and Newtown shooter's dad in some case together conspiracy?

Do your own research, stop blindly trusting. Do you think it's alright for a journalist to have her private files taken without cause?
 
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553. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 17:27 Sepharo
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 17:25:
5 mins of searching oh look another Journalist getting intimidated.
Getting the picture yet libs? Still think your buddy slick is genuine?

http://tinyurl.com/k532zwk

How many more cases like this need to pop up? Like I said, I generally don't buy into conspiracy shit but when you hear a new one every day even ON mainstream news, well wtf.

What happened to the Aurora shooter's dad and Newtown shooter's dad in some case together conspiracy?
 
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552. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 17:25 RollinThundr
 
5 mins of searching oh look another Journalist getting intimidated.
Getting the picture yet libs? Still think your buddy slick is genuine?

http://tinyurl.com/k532zwk

How many more cases like this need to pop up? Like I said, I generally don't buy into conspiracy shit but when you hear a new one every day even ON mainstream news, well wtf.
 
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551. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 17:22 Sepharo
 
I thought we were going to talk about false flags now  
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550. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 17:18 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 16:34:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 16:21:
Beamer wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 15:26:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 15:23:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 15:20:
State facts about Obama's track record and lying. Liberals can't dispute, demonize poster instead. Don't ever change liberals don't ever change.

Can't engage on current argument, switch to another argument whilst quoting original argument, act oblivious.

He STILL hasn't acknowledge the 23 Executive Actions "most" of which he was convinced were unconstitutional.

OH MY GOD OBAMA IS GOING TO "REVIEW" GUN SAFETY! THE SKY IS FALLING.


Now, I'm going to step away, I need to "review" which food trucks are parked outside my building and "release" funds to them for my lunch. I hope to god none of that is unconstitutional.

Look at New Hampshire's gun laws or really lack of, then look at the gun related crime in NH. Then look at California's gun laws and gun related crime in California. Guns aren't the issue, the demographic is. Reality is reality, All the new gun laws in the world won't clean up a Shitcago or a DC.

INB4 ROLLIN IS A RACISS!!111ELEVENTY!! No you fucking waste of flesh I'm a realist.

More changing goalposts. More refusing to answer the question.

You brought up these 23 Executive Actions, you refused to post them and made us do it, now you're refusing to acknowledge it. Instead you throw out more vague bullshit without citing a single damn thing.

It's called using facts that are relevant to back up your point of view, you know those things you never use ever Beamer?

This whole attack on the 2nd amendment you lefties always support it's humorous that the data actually goes against your view points.
 
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549. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 16:36 Beamer
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 16:34:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 16:32:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 16:29:
I wasn't able to make it past your insinuation that the government plans school shootings so that the president can make 23 mostly ineffectual executive actions related to gun control. Did you say anything reasonable after that?

See that's the difference, I don't trust this government period, whether it's Bush, Obama, or Marvin the Martian in office. The kid who shot up that theater had a father who was to testify in some case, the kid who shot up newtown, his father was set to testify in the same case. I'm not drawing any conclusions here but that's one hell of a coincidence doncha think?

They both have dads who were going to testify in their cases? Or in each others cases? Could you link me the Alex Jones video that explains this. I'm not really following you.

Dude, it's another rabbit hole of conspiracy theories for him to go down, make vague comments, link to videos, then...


WAIT! I get your strategy now!
If we change the topic, he'll spit out some trivial crap, then when we ask him to back it up he'll just change topic again, and eventually he'll finally get back to those 23 Executive Actions he thinks are almost exclusively unconstitutional but won't see which ones or how.
We should have done this sooner - chase him fast enough until he runs in a circle and gets back where we want him.

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548. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 16:36 nin
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 16:34:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 16:32:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 16:29:
I wasn't able to make it past your insinuation that the government plans school shootings so that the president can make 23 mostly ineffectual executive actions related to gun control. Did you say anything reasonable after that?

See that's the difference, I don't trust this government period, whether it's Bush, Obama, or Marvin the Martian in office. The kid who shot up that theater had a father who was to testify in some case, the kid who shot up newtown, his father was set to testify in the same case. I'm not drawing any conclusions here but that's one hell of a coincidence doncha think?

They both have dads who were going to testify in their cases? Or in each others cases? Could you link me the Alex Jones video that explains this. I'm not really following you.

Wow...taking crazy to all new heights.

 
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547. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 16:34 Sepharo
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 16:32:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 16:29:
I wasn't able to make it past your insinuation that the government plans school shootings so that the president can make 23 mostly ineffectual executive actions related to gun control. Did you say anything reasonable after that?

See that's the difference, I don't trust this government period, whether it's Bush, Obama, or Marvin the Martian in office. The kid who shot up that theater had a father who was to testify in some case, the kid who shot up newtown, his father was set to testify in the same case. I'm not drawing any conclusions here but that's one hell of a coincidence doncha think?

They both have dads who were going to testify in their cases? Or in each others cases? Could you link me the Alex Jones video that explains this. I'm not really following you.
 
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546. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 16:34 Beamer
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 16:21:
Beamer wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 15:26:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 15:23:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 15:20:
State facts about Obama's track record and lying. Liberals can't dispute, demonize poster instead. Don't ever change liberals don't ever change.

Can't engage on current argument, switch to another argument whilst quoting original argument, act oblivious.

He STILL hasn't acknowledge the 23 Executive Actions "most" of which he was convinced were unconstitutional.

OH MY GOD OBAMA IS GOING TO "REVIEW" GUN SAFETY! THE SKY IS FALLING.


Now, I'm going to step away, I need to "review" which food trucks are parked outside my building and "release" funds to them for my lunch. I hope to god none of that is unconstitutional.

Look at New Hampshire's gun laws or really lack of, then look at the gun related crime in NH. Then look at California's gun laws and gun related crime in California. Guns aren't the issue, the demographic is. Reality is reality, All the new gun laws in the world won't clean up a Shitcago or a DC.

INB4 ROLLIN IS A RACISS!!111ELEVENTY!! No you fucking waste of flesh I'm a realist.

More changing goalposts. More refusing to answer the question.

You brought up these 23 Executive Actions, you refused to post them and made us do it, now you're refusing to acknowledge it. Instead you throw out more vague bullshit without citing a single damn thing.
 
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545. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 16:32 RollinThundr
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 16:29:
I wasn't able to make it past your insinuation that the government plans school shootings so that the president can make 23 mostly ineffectual executive actions related to gun control. Did you say anything reasonable after that?

See that's the difference, I don't trust this government period, whether it's Bush, Obama, or Marvin the Martian in office. The kid who shot up that theater had a father who was to testify in some case, the kid who shot up newtown, his father was set to testify in the same case. I'm not drawing any conclusions here but that's one hell of a coincidence doncha think?
 
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544. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 16:29 Sepharo
 
I wasn't able to make it past your insinuation that the government plans school shootings so that the president can make 23 mostly ineffectual executive actions related to gun control. Did you say anything reasonable after that?  
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543. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 16:25 RollinThundr
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 16:22:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 16:21:
Beamer wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 15:26:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 15:23:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 15:20:
State facts about Obama's track record and lying. Liberals can't dispute, demonize poster instead. Don't ever change liberals don't ever change.

Can't engage on current argument, switch to another argument whilst quoting original argument, act oblivious.

He STILL hasn't acknowledge the 23 Executive Actions "most" of which he was convinced were unconstitutional.

OH MY GOD OBAMA IS GOING TO "REVIEW" GUN SAFETY! THE SKY IS FALLING.


Now, I'm going to step away, I need to "review" which food trucks are parked outside my building and "release" funds to them for my lunch. I hope to god none of that is unconstitutional.

Look at New Hampshire's gun laws or really lack of, then look at the gun related crime in NH. Then look at California's gun laws and gun related crime in California. Guns aren't the issue, the demographic is. Reality is reality, All the new gun laws in the world won't clean up a Shitcago or a DC.

INB4 ROLLIN IS A RACISS!!111ELEVENTY!! No you fucking waste of flesh I'm a realist.

Do you think gun violence comes first or gun laws?

Gun violence has been steadily declining in the US for over a decade. We have a couple major incidents which may or may not have been false flags and all of a sudden you have liberals calling to BAN GUNS!

Look at the actual data.

All the gun laws in the world aren't going to make gang bangers and criminals all of a sudden become productive members of society.
 
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542. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 16:22 Sepharo
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 16:21:
Beamer wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 15:26:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 15:23:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 15:20:
State facts about Obama's track record and lying. Liberals can't dispute, demonize poster instead. Don't ever change liberals don't ever change.

Can't engage on current argument, switch to another argument whilst quoting original argument, act oblivious.

He STILL hasn't acknowledge the 23 Executive Actions "most" of which he was convinced were unconstitutional.

OH MY GOD OBAMA IS GOING TO "REVIEW" GUN SAFETY! THE SKY IS FALLING.


Now, I'm going to step away, I need to "review" which food trucks are parked outside my building and "release" funds to them for my lunch. I hope to god none of that is unconstitutional.

Look at New Hampshire's gun laws or really lack of, then look at the gun related crime in NH. Then look at California's gun laws and gun related crime in California. Guns aren't the issue, the demographic is. Reality is reality, All the new gun laws in the world won't clean up a Shitcago or a DC.

INB4 ROLLIN IS A RACISS!!111ELEVENTY!! No you fucking waste of flesh I'm a realist.

Do you think gun violence comes first or gun laws?
 
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541. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 16:21 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 15:26:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 15:23:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 15:20:
State facts about Obama's track record and lying. Liberals can't dispute, demonize poster instead. Don't ever change liberals don't ever change.

Can't engage on current argument, switch to another argument whilst quoting original argument, act oblivious.

He STILL hasn't acknowledge the 23 Executive Actions "most" of which he was convinced were unconstitutional.

OH MY GOD OBAMA IS GOING TO "REVIEW" GUN SAFETY! THE SKY IS FALLING.


Now, I'm going to step away, I need to "review" which food trucks are parked outside my building and "release" funds to them for my lunch. I hope to god none of that is unconstitutional.

Look at New Hampshire's gun laws or really lack of, then look at the gun related crime in NH. Then look at California's gun laws and gun related crime in California. Guns aren't the issue, the demographic is. Reality is reality, All the new gun laws in the world won't clean up a Shitcago or a DC.

INB4 ROLLIN IS A RACISS!!111ELEVENTY!! No you fucking waste of flesh I'm a realist.
 
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540. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 28, 2013, 16:19 Sepharo
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 16:13:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 15:23:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 28, 2013, 15:20:
State facts about Obama's track record and lying. Liberals can't dispute, demonize poster instead. Don't ever change liberals don't ever change.

Can't engage on current argument, switch to another argument whilst quoting original argument, act oblivious.

You've read the 2nd amendment, especially the "are not to be infringed" part I'm sure. Ok with president trying to enact law changes with zero congressional oversight. NOTHING TO SEE HERE MOVE ALONG! It's sad that you idiots need things spelt out for you.

Critical thinking is lost on this generation.

Could you link the law changes please.
 
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