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779. removed Oct 31, 2013, 15:02 D-Rock
 
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778. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 15:02 Wowbagger_TIP
 
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:55:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:47:
It's good to know that widowed mothers working multiple part time jobs to make end meet don't have a fucking life and aren't productive members of society.


Geez Beamer -- can you lighten up for once?
Yeah Beamer! It's really a low blow to confront them with the inevitable results of the policies they advocate!
 
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777. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:58 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:47:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:39:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:32:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:29:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:17:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:06:
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:03:
Prez wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:01:
Gee, that's classy.

What's even classier is when he reminds people about it all the time.

What?
I've never, ever claimed to be charitable. I give pretty much nothing to charities. Or homeless people. Once that money hits my bank account that's my damn money, and I don't feel I make nearly enough of it to be as comfortable as I want to be.

Of course you don't, you just think others should.

Huh? That... just makes no sense...

Keep up Junior, beamer's a bleeder remember, muh underprivileged need your money to survive they're incapable of as he puts it "pulling themselves up by the bootstraps" or in other words getting a fucking life and being a productive member of society. He'd happily pay more taxes thinking it won't be wasteful spending but giving it to charity? Fuck that noise!
Charity is a band-aid on the gaping wounds that society fails to fix. Guess when charitable donations are at their lowest? Nevermind, we'll be wating all day on an answer. It's when the economy is in the shitter. Otherwise known as the time when charity is most needed. Let me know when you solve that one.

It's good to know that widowed mothers working multiple part time jobs to make end meet don't have a fucking life and aren't productive members of society.

LOL never fails, never said that, in fact a few posts ago, I mention that not all welfare or assistance is bad, keep grasping for straws and putting words in people's mouths to try to invalidate them. That tactic has worked so well for you so far.
 
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776. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:55 D-Rock
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:47:
It's good to know that widowed mothers working multiple part time jobs to make end meet don't have a fucking life and aren't productive members of society.


Geez Beamer -- can you lighten up for once?
 
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775. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:47 Beamer
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:39:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:32:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:29:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:17:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:06:
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:03:
Prez wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:01:
Gee, that's classy.

What's even classier is when he reminds people about it all the time.

What?
I've never, ever claimed to be charitable. I give pretty much nothing to charities. Or homeless people. Once that money hits my bank account that's my damn money, and I don't feel I make nearly enough of it to be as comfortable as I want to be.

Of course you don't, you just think others should.

Huh? That... just makes no sense...

Keep up Junior, beamer's a bleeder remember, muh underprivileged need your money to survive they're incapable of as he puts it "pulling themselves up by the bootstraps" or in other words getting a fucking life and being a productive member of society. He'd happily pay more taxes thinking it won't be wasteful spending but giving it to charity? Fuck that noise!
Charity is a band-aid on the gaping wounds that society fails to fix. Guess when charitable donations are at their lowest? Nevermind, we'll be wating all day on an answer. It's when the economy is in the shitter. Otherwise known as the time when charity is most needed. Let me know when you solve that one.

It's good to know that widowed mothers working multiple part time jobs to make end meet don't have a fucking life and aren't productive members of society.
 
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774. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:45 RollinThundr
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:39:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:32:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:29:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:17:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:06:
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:03:
Prez wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:01:
Gee, that's classy.

What's even classier is when he reminds people about it all the time.

What?
I've never, ever claimed to be charitable. I give pretty much nothing to charities. Or homeless people. Once that money hits my bank account that's my damn money, and I don't feel I make nearly enough of it to be as comfortable as I want to be.

Of course you don't, you just think others should.

Huh? That... just makes no sense...

Keep up Junior, beamer's a bleeder remember, muh underprivileged need your money to survive they're incapable of as he puts it "pulling themselves up by the bootstraps" or in other words getting a fucking life and being a productive member of society. He'd happily pay more taxes thinking it won't be wasteful spending but giving it to charity? Fuck that noise!
Charity is a band-aid on the gaping wounds that society fails to fix. Guess when charitable donations are at their lowest? Nevermind, we'll be wating all day on an answer. It's when the economy is in the shitter. Otherwise known as the time when charity is most needed. Let me know when you solve that one.

Ok now I know you're just a delusional liberal shill, Charity does more every day for the under privileged than government ever will. My god I feel so bad for you indoctrinated good goys, reality clearly eludes you.
 
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773. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:45 D-Rock
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:37:
Yeah. I agree with them that it's obnoxious, but if I don't do it I'll get told that I'm jealous or looking for handouts or expecting the government to do the work for me or whatever.

You're just a victim no matter what. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
 
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772. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:41 D-Rock
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:34:
Lol. I believe that was due to the claims by you guys that Beamer was just jealous of wealthier people and wanted to bring them down. (Which was also an adhom, but hey that's cool)

I claimed nothing of the sort.
 
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771. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:39 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:32:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:29:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:17:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:06:
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:03:
Prez wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:01:
Gee, that's classy.

What's even classier is when he reminds people about it all the time.

What?
I've never, ever claimed to be charitable. I give pretty much nothing to charities. Or homeless people. Once that money hits my bank account that's my damn money, and I don't feel I make nearly enough of it to be as comfortable as I want to be.

Of course you don't, you just think others should.

Huh? That... just makes no sense...

Keep up Junior, beamer's a bleeder remember, muh underprivileged need your money to survive they're incapable of as he puts it "pulling themselves up by the bootstraps" or in other words getting a fucking life and being a productive member of society. He'd happily pay more taxes thinking it won't be wasteful spending but giving it to charity? Fuck that noise!
Charity is a band-aid on the gaping wounds that society fails to fix. Guess when charitable donations are at their lowest? Nevermind, we'll be wating all day on an answer. It's when the economy is in the shitter. Otherwise known as the time when charity is most needed. Let me know when you solve that one.
 
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." -- Bertrand Russell (I think...)
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770. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:37 Beamer
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:34:
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:23:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:06:
What?
I've never, ever claimed to be charitable. I give pretty much nothing to charities. Or homeless people. Once that money hits my bank account that's my damn money, and I don't feel I make nearly enough of it to be as comfortable as I want to be.

I'm talking about the fact that multiple times in this thread you've felt it necessary to make a point of the fact that you are well compensated for your work. We get it.

Lol. I believe that was due to the claims by you guys that Beamer was just jealous of wealthier people and wanted to bring them down. (Which was also an adhom, but hey that's cool)

Yeah. I agree with them that it's obnoxious, but if I don't do it I'll get told that I'm jealous or looking for handouts or expecting the government to do the work for me or whatever.


And I don't ask anyone to give to charity. I said that, once something hits my bank account it's mine. Taxation comes before something hits my bank account.
As I've said many times, though, my interest in bringing tax levels back to 1940s-1960s levels (adjusted for inflation, of course) is less because I think people on the bottom need government handouts, and more because I think that taxing people on the extreme top will encourage them to pay people on the bottom better, which will make people on the bottom spend more money, which will strengthen our economy. It's far, far less about social justice and far, far more about fueling the economy.
 
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769. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:34 Wowbagger_TIP
 
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:23:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:06:
What?
I've never, ever claimed to be charitable. I give pretty much nothing to charities. Or homeless people. Once that money hits my bank account that's my damn money, and I don't feel I make nearly enough of it to be as comfortable as I want to be.

I'm talking about the fact that multiple times in this thread you've felt it necessary to make a point of the fact that you are well compensated for your work. We get it.

Lol. I believe that was due to the claims by you guys that Beamer was just jealous of wealthier people and wanted to bring them down. (Which was also an adhom, but hey that's cool)
 
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768. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:32 RollinThundr
 
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:29:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:17:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:06:
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:03:
Prez wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:01:
Gee, that's classy.

What's even classier is when he reminds people about it all the time.

What?
I've never, ever claimed to be charitable. I give pretty much nothing to charities. Or homeless people. Once that money hits my bank account that's my damn money, and I don't feel I make nearly enough of it to be as comfortable as I want to be.

Of course you don't, you just think others should.

Huh? That... just makes no sense...

Keep up Junior, beamer's a bleeder remember, muh underprivileged need your money to survive they're incapable of as he puts it "pulling themselves up by the bootstraps" or in other words getting a fucking life and being a productive member of society. He'd happily pay more taxes thinking it won't be wasteful spending but giving it to charity? Fuck that noise!
 
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767. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:29 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:17:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:06:
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:03:
Prez wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:01:
Gee, that's classy.

What's even classier is when he reminds people about it all the time.

What?
I've never, ever claimed to be charitable. I give pretty much nothing to charities. Or homeless people. Once that money hits my bank account that's my damn money, and I don't feel I make nearly enough of it to be as comfortable as I want to be.

Of course you don't, you just think others should.

Huh? That... just makes no sense...
 
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." -- Bertrand Russell (I think...)
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766. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:23 D-Rock
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:06:
What?
I've never, ever claimed to be charitable. I give pretty much nothing to charities. Or homeless people. Once that money hits my bank account that's my damn money, and I don't feel I make nearly enough of it to be as comfortable as I want to be.

I'm talking about the fact that multiple times in this thread you've felt it necessary to make a point of the fact that you are well compensated for your work. We get it.
 
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765. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:17 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:06:
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:03:
Prez wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:01:
Gee, that's classy.

What's even classier is when he reminds people about it all the time.

What?
I've never, ever claimed to be charitable. I give pretty much nothing to charities. Or homeless people. Once that money hits my bank account that's my damn money, and I don't feel I make nearly enough of it to be as comfortable as I want to be.

Of course you don't, you just think others should.
 
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764. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:15 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 13:15:
Why didn't the republicans argue? Because all 3 branches of government at the time were majority democrats, the ACA passed with zero republican votes, ZERO. That alone should raise a few red flags.

Right, that explains it.† Those Democrats must have redistributed the voices of the Republicans, rendering them unable to speak!† Those bastards!
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 13:15:
Rather than do it right, he pushed through a disaster of a plan, repeatedly lied about it, is still lying about it, and refuses to take any responsibility for how big a fail it's been so far.

So far?† Itís a month in and the website has been working sporadically.† Hardly the colossal systemic failure youíre trying to portray it as.

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 13:15:
What do you propose Bagger, we spend another 100 billion+ on more failures?

100 billion+?!?† What the fuck planet do you live on?† You canít even be bothered to find an actual value to be pissed off about, and there certainly is one.† Again, this is why nobody takes you seriously.

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 13:15:
Please propose something that not only will cut medical costs, but still allow people to make choices that will be best for them and their families?

First of all, you make the assumption that people will make the best choice for themselves.† When it comes to health insurance, the plans are often very vague about what is actually covered, and even health insurance experts often canít tell you for sure what would be covered.† This has been well documented and reported on for many years now.† Without adequate information, people canít be expected to make good choices.† The only choice they are making based on what they can afford and how effectively the insurance company has marketed their plan and hidden the deficiencies.†

This leaves the taxpayer stuck with the bill when they inevitably need care that isnít covered.† This is why we have a baseline now for what must be covered.† Because without such a baseline, we get stuck with the bill.† So people need to provide themselves with adequate coverage, or they pay a tax for not doing so. †This is called being responsible.† †

Obamacare is kind of a half-ass solution to the problem, that gets the idea of what needs to be done, but then utterly failed to implement it because they decided to give in to bi-partisanship (even though the Republicans still wouldnít vote for it) and caved to the insurance industry.† So yeah, itís not a great solution, and yeah, they definitely fucked up the rollout.† Itís still better than what weíve had up until now, and nobody has any better ideas for fixing the problems, aside from single-payer, but OMG socialism!
 
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763. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:06 Beamer
 
D-Rock wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:03:
Prez wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:01:
Gee, that's classy.

What's even classier is when he reminds people about it all the time.

What?
I've never, ever claimed to be charitable. I give pretty much nothing to charities. Or homeless people. Once that money hits my bank account that's my damn money, and I don't feel I make nearly enough of it to be as comfortable as I want to be.
 
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762. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:05 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 13:59:
Is it fair to assume the c-suite pay has probably skyrocketed, as in exponential growth? A reward for "lean manufacturing?"

As of this year we are now a wholly owned subsidiary of Georgia Pacific. Which of course is one of the largest organizations in - wait for it - Koch Industries. Even before that, our company's corporate bonuses alone were higher than the salaries of the twenty highest-paid hourly workers combined. One of the bonuses would have kept every single employee who was laid off in the year (even while we were making record profits) on board for the entire year. If these were even remotely isolated incidents, I'd go work somewhere else. But this is so common that I hear similar stories from virtually every single person I know who works.

I defended golden parachutes in another thread (or was it this one?) yesterday, but executive compensation is clearly out of control.

Those executives got bonuses. Fantastic. They can buy a Maserati and put the rest in the bank.
But had that money gone to employees instead a greater portion would have been spent. An economy relies upon money being spent, and large concentrations of money simply means it sits around rather than goes towards purchasing items. The less money being spent, the more jobs that need to be cut. The more jobs that are cut, the less money being spent (and the cheaper items need to be.) To make items cheaper, and to deal with reduced demand, more jobs get cut. To reward labor inefficiencies being corrected, more bonuses are given to executives.
 
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761. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:03 D-Rock
 
Prez wrote on Oct 31, 2013, 14:01:
Gee, that's classy.

What's even classier is when he reminds people about it all the time.
 
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760. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 31, 2013, 14:01 Prez
 
So far your posts are carefully worded so as to not to have an opinion on anything, especially the disaster that is Obamacare.

Maybe because I'm waiting until I see how it turns out before I label it anything? The launch and how it ends up in the long run are not one and the same.

If things are so bad for you and you don't want government handouts ask Beamer to help you out. I'm sure he's very charitable with his money.

Gee, that's classy.
 
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