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15. Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 19, 2013, 07:02 eRe4s3r
 
Netflix isn't available everywhere and when it is you have stuff like Game of Thrones not being there...

Game of Thrones being the only TV series I even watched this year. I don't watch TV usually.

 
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14. Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 18, 2013, 20:53 Cyanotetyphas
 
I may or may not have borrowed things from my friends on the internet before but since I got Netflix it hasn't been worth the hassle. Same with games, why bother when it can be had for $5 or as part of a bundle for $1?  
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13. Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 18, 2013, 17:41 PHJF
 
If someone is using a gun for illicit purposes you don't go after the manufacturer.

Actually, they do go after manufacturers.
 
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12. Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 18, 2013, 17:39 Cutter
 
I've never understood the cry of torrents and piracy. It's simply a service and if people choose to use it for illegal means then you deal with the people. I'm sure the Mob uses Microsoft software on their computers and I don't see anyone charging MS with aiding and abetting crime. It's zero different to me than the gun issue. If someone is using a gun for illicit purposes you don't go after the manufacturer.
 
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11. Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 18, 2013, 17:04 Julio
 
So between Netflix, piracy and porn, there's 150% of all bandwidth.  
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10. Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 18, 2013, 16:46 PHJF
 
It was from everybody downloading Game of Thrones, obviously.  
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9. Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 18, 2013, 15:42 Prez
 
Verno wrote on Sep 18, 2013, 10:57:
Pigeon wrote on Sep 18, 2013, 10:47:
'Infringing use of bittorent', I'd like to see what they call infringing use. Corporations, and most people tend to have very different views of what constitutes infringement.

Well let's be a bit honest about the primary use of BitTorrent here. It isn't distributing game patches and drivers

That being said, I wanted to buy a copy of Epic for my daughter, it was $30 on Bluray in the store. Even $25 at Amazon is too much for a new movie. I didn't pirate it instead but I mean it's not exactly hard to see why people do. TV is another good example, people are tired of advertisements and forced schedules. They are creating their own libraries using software like XBMC because they simply aren't being served the way they want. This is lost opportunity for the industries involved, they are too slow to adapt and often implement absurd restrictions when they do.

Exactly. That 24% would be a whole helluva lot lower if corporations actually worried as much about serving the wants and meeting the needs of their audience as about fleecing them.
 
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8. Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 18, 2013, 13:38 eRe4s3r
 
This study doesn't say piracy is a problem, only that 24% of the bandwidth is used by torrents. Which is nothing in the grand scheme of things ;p all bandwidth in use is not the maximum bandwidth at nodes. (so torrents use maybe 9% of the global maximum available bandwidth) and that puts it into perspective nicely.

Nowadays some of the piracy is via filehosters or streaming so these numbers may be even a bit low

Either way, got no further opinion about this...
 
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7. Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 18, 2013, 13:21 Pigeon
 
HorrorScope wrote on Sep 18, 2013, 11:14:
24%? Well if true, it isn't surprising, it becomes an addiction. I remember when I downloaded a DVD Ripper years ago. I started ripping and making backups. Did that with VCR as well... I'd have these huge libraries and viewed maybe 1-2% of what I backed up. I finally saw the pattern and stopped it, was a waste of time and money.

Same for those that used to buy a shitload of DVD's before the crash. Times got tight, they stopped buying 4 DVD's each Tuesday to save and then realized they watch very little of what they even bought.

Perhaps sort of like Steam Sales....

Those pirates I bet a lot of them touch very little of what they download.

Before torrents there was something called hotwire, or something like that, and people would just trade pirated material like it was some commodities market. Essentially trading for sake of having it or so it could be used to trade for something they actually wanted. It was an odd system full of server tyrants.

More back on topic, I guess I'm always suspicious of paid for studies. It's not that I don't think piracy is a problem, it's more fearing that companies like NBC Universal will try to use inflated data to lobby for laws or standards that make getting shows and movies we want to watch, in a manner we want to watch, much harder to do legally.
 
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6. Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 18, 2013, 11:14 HorrorScope
 
24%? Well if true, it isn't surprising, it becomes an addiction. I remember when I downloaded a DVD Ripper years ago. I started ripping and making backups. Did that with VCR as well... I'd have these huge libraries and viewed maybe 1-2% of what I backed up. I finally saw the pattern and stopped it, was a waste of time and money.

Same for those that used to buy a shitload of DVD's before the crash. Times got tight, they stopped buying 4 DVD's each Tuesday to save and then realized they watch very little of what they even bought.

Perhaps sort of like Steam Sales....

Those pirates I bet a lot of them touch very little of what they download.
 
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5. Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 18, 2013, 11:13 Verno
 
Shineyguy wrote on Sep 18, 2013, 11:07:
I dunno, World of Warcraft has quite a few subscribers (and free players), and it uses BitTorrent technology to offer up patches primarily to it's players.

Though, yes, ultimately that's a small number.

As someone who used to work NOC at a major North American ISP I can tell you with confidence that distributing WoW patches does not put a dent in copyrighted downloads. Don't get me wrong, I don't sympathize with the corporations here as they have largely created the situation they're in but people should be honest with themselves about what they're doing and stop trying to paint these niche use scenarios. Sure there are some people posting on Usenet still for example but they are not creating the terabytes of data that flow it through every day.
 
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4. Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 18, 2013, 11:07 Shineyguy
 
Verno wrote on Sep 18, 2013, 10:57:
Pigeon wrote on Sep 18, 2013, 10:47:
'Infringing use of bittorent', I'd like to see what they call infringing use. Corporations, and most people tend to have very different views of what constitutes infringement.

Well let's be a bit honest about the primary use of BitTorrent here. It isn't distributing game patches and drivers ;)

I dunno, World of Warcraft has quite a few subscribers (and free players), and it uses BitTorrent technology to offer up patches primarily to it's players.

Though, yes, ultimately that's a small number.
 
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3. Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 18, 2013, 10:57 Verno
 
Pigeon wrote on Sep 18, 2013, 10:47:
'Infringing use of bittorent', I'd like to see what they call infringing use. Corporations, and most people tend to have very different views of what constitutes infringement.

Well let's be a bit honest about the primary use of BitTorrent here. It isn't distributing game patches and drivers

That being said, I wanted to buy a copy of Epic for my daughter, it was $30 on Bluray in the store. Even $25 at Amazon is too much for a new movie. I didn't pirate it instead but I mean it's not exactly hard to see why people do. TV is another good example, people are tired of advertisements and forced schedules. They are creating their own libraries using software like XBMC because they simply aren't being served the way they want. This is lost opportunity for the industries involved, they are too slow to adapt and often implement absurd restrictions when they do.
 
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2. Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 18, 2013, 10:47 Pigeon
 
'Infringing use of bittorent', I'd like to see what they call infringing use. Corporations, and most people tend to have very different views of what constitutes infringement.  
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1. Re: Morning Metaverse Sep 18, 2013, 10:24 Cutter
 
And made up statistics are 96% of all statistics.
 
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