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Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails

The second Kickstarter for Shadow of the Eternals has concluded, once again failing to land the funding Precursor Games seeks to create a third-person action/adventure they plan as a spiritual successor to Eternal Darkness. The campaign by this developer comprised of David Dyack and other Silicon Knights veterans made it up to $323K, less than half their $750K goal. This is an improvement over their first Kickstarter, which was cancelled after their initial push failed to land 10% of the commitment they sought, but not enough to make their game. There's no update since the deadline passed, so there's no word at this point whether they intend on giving this another try.

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21. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 25, 2013, 12:22 Agent.X7
 
Maybe the third times the charm?  
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20. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 20:20 nin
 
Fantaz wrote on Aug 24, 2013, 19:06:
is David Dyack the brother of Dennis Dyack?

It's Denis' good twin.

 
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19. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 19:09 Jerykk
 
Not surprised at all. Dyack carries a stigma with him and anyone with any knowledge of the industry will avoid him like a plague. Also, the fact that one of the developers was just arrested for child pornography doesn't help either.

Then there's the fact that Eternal Darkness is easily one of the most overrated games of all time. The sanity events were pure gimmick, 90% of the game consisted of tedious backtracking and lousy combat and most of the characters you played had no real development and offered nothing meaningful to the story.
 
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18. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 19:06 Fantaz
 
is David Dyack the brother of Dennis Dyack?  
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17. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 15:33 jdreyer
 
This thread over at Giant Bomb covers a lot of why people despise Dyack. For example:

It was his comments about the press after Too Human bombed, the allegations made against Epic about the Unreal Engine (it turned out in the end that Silicon Knights used the Unreal Engine without permission and paying royalties and simply disguised the code they stole as "a revamped version" of the engine), the X-Men Destiny article, and that Dyack was practically responsible for Silicon Knights' deterioration and he jumped ship to a new studio after all that Epic stuff hit the fan. There's also the fact that Eternal Darkness, the game on which he tries to ride a new career, was allegedly successful precisely because he had people looking at his hands: Nintendo brought in their own producers.

Also, X-Men Destiny was not a project they took to stay afloat. They took it so they could basically take Activision's money and use the resources solely to develop Eternal Darkness 2, despite the fact that they don't have the rights, they didn't strike a deal with anyone, and over the course of developing they apparently had barely a quarter of a single in-game location. That's not trying to keep the company together, it's trying to play a huge company for a fool and expect to get away with it. It's irresponsible. It's fraud, just like with the Epic law suit.
 
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16. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 15:23 Narf2029
 
Bachelor of Physical Education degree? Am I interpreting that right? Because what's going into my head is a guy who went to college for 4 years to become the best gym teacher he possibly could.  
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15. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 15:11 Redmask
 
Why is David/Dennis Dyack a problem. What did he do?

Mismanaged many projects, bankrupted a company, released several turds into the marketplace and took tax credits/subsidies from the Ontario government then went out of business through ineptitude. He is basically a clown.

Eternal Darkness never would have made it without Nintendo taking over halfway through and shepherding production, Dyack had already started to make a mess of it. Basically the guy can't manage a project to save his life and anything hes involved in tends to be cursed to failure.
 
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14. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 15:07 jdreyer
 
Alamar wrote on Aug 24, 2013, 10:13:
The fans have (not) spoken...

This is why you set your goal low, and enjoy the gravy... Instead of setting it high, getting close (not in this case), and get 0...

-Alamar

Yeah, but it wouldn't be a Dyack production unless he could get paid the six figures he deserves. Can't do that if you set your goal at $300K, unless the plan is to take the cash and declare bankruptcy. Hmm....
 
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13. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 14:47 Cutter
 
I think the real problem was the lack of a Pedo Bear tier.


 
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12. Re: RE: Follow up Aug 24, 2013, 12:59 UConnBBall
 
I would say ET was the only scary video game I ever finished. Was well executed. Just lighting isn't striking twice. Lucky once means not lucky twice. Get rid of Dyack this has a chance.  
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11. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 12:45 Suppa7
 
The problem with Eternal darkness as a game, while parts of it were well executed the rest was mostly mediocre.

ED just wasn't that well executed of a game and hence it was rather forgettable. It's been almost what 10 years since ED? No one talks about ED like they do classics like freespace 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhAR8rWPluQ
 
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10. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 12:20 NKD
 
Creston wrote on Aug 24, 2013, 12:01:
Hey, Dyack, maybe people just don't trust you? Just throwing it out there.

Most people don't even know/care who he is. The game just doesn't look interesting.
 
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9. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 12:01 Creston
 
Hey, Dyack, maybe people just don't trust you? Just throwing it out there.  
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8. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 11:38 nin
 
Prez wrote on Aug 24, 2013, 11:29:
Why is David/Dennis Dyack a problem. What did he do?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Denis+Dyack+controversy
 
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7. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 11:29 Prez
 
Why is David/Dennis Dyack a problem. What did he do?  
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6. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 11:20 nin
 
Redmask wrote on Aug 24, 2013, 11:15:
Get rid of Dyack, people don't want to contribute to a campaign where he is involved.

I actually posted that in the first KS, and everyone threw a shitfit - it was hilarious!

 
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5. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 11:15 Redmask
 
Get rid of Dyack, people don't want to contribute to a campaign where he is involved.  
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4. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 10:54 AlexSledge
 
Perhaps a larger investment in marketing, additional focus-group style feedback from the fan base on the features which are core - to aim at a smaller scoped game, where you can add back features via stretch goals - but this requires quality skilled cost planning.  
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3. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 10:53 nin
 
Alamar wrote on Aug 24, 2013, 10:13:
The fans have (not) spoken...

This is why you set your goal low, and enjoy the gravy... Instead of setting it high, getting close (not in this case), and get 0...

-Alamar

I think this one was half of the previous amount they asked...

The campaign by this developer comprised of David Dyack

Denis...

 
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2. Re: Shadow of the Eternals Kickstarter Fails Aug 24, 2013, 10:18 CJ_Parker
 
LOL@DUBBLEPHAIL  
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