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No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year?

Batman: Arkham Origins will not use Games for Windows Live, reports IGN, saying WBIE has confirmed that the new installment in the stealth/action series uses Steamworks for achievements and multiplayer support. There was no multiplayer in the first two games in the Arkham series, but they both used GFWL for achievement tracking. This news comes shortly after news that the Xbox.com PC Marketplace (formerly the Games for Windows LIVE Marketplace) will close this week, and word from Capcom that Ultra Street Fighter IV will likewise drop Games for Windows Live after using this on previous games including Super Street Fighter IV. On the heals of all this, Polygon reports on a now-removed support update from Microsoft that announced the Games for Windows Live service will end in July 2014. Here's what they report the update said:

Games for Windows Live will be discontinued on July 1, 2014. Although it is available through Steam, Age of Empires Online requires features of the Games for Windows Live service. You can continue to enjoy all the features of Age of Empires Online as the service will remain 100% operational until July 1, 2014 when the server will shut down.

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51. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Oct 9, 2013, 10:49 Beamer
 
El Pit wrote on Aug 20, 2013, 09:40:
Microsoft buying Steam/Valve would be the worst case scenario for pc gamers.

Unless he's looking to retire, I'm pretty certain Gabe would turn down any offer from Microsoft. Any offer. Losing control of Valve isn't worth the billions they'd offer, especially as he probably believes he can make that with Valve, anyway.

I don't even think they could be convinced to partner with Microsoft - I don't think there's a single thing Microsoft could offer that Valve would want.
 
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50. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Oct 9, 2013, 09:51 RollinThundr
 
Rattlehead wrote on Aug 19, 2013, 22:40:
About fucking time. Seriously, nobody accepted that horse shit. Goodbye and good riddance Microsuck. Stick to X1, we don't need or want you. Keep your DRM diarrhea on consoles. This is about the best news I've heard in a long time.

Because we rather use Valve DRM! I hate GFWL as much as the next guy but you all still use DRM every day on your PC games.
 
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49. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 20:04 The_Pink_Tiger
 
I really don't think there are any single player games where GFWL requires an online connection, you just have to make an offline profile for each game (an option that's easy to miss).

Bulletstorm required an online profile. You could not play without it.

Fortunately, most GFW games allow offline play. But not all of them.


 
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48. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 17:11 MxxCon
 
HoSpanky wrote on Aug 20, 2013, 17:08:
The fix would be fake "GFWL" registration server software that you load on your machine. A small executable that pretends to be the MS server, authorizing whatever bullshittery the game needs it to. This would keep games without an active publisher/developer from being completely cut out. Now, it won't fix multiplayer issues, but it'd at least be a solution for being able to play games SP.
Such a solution would also involve messing around with your computer's hosts file to redirect requests from MS's servers to localhost...
If that's the case then you just might as well get proper game cracks that would not require gfwl at all.
 
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47. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 17:08 HoSpanky
 
The fix would be fake "GFWL" registration server software that you load on your machine. A small executable that pretends to be the MS server, authorizing whatever bullshittery the game needs it to. This would keep games without an active publisher/developer from being completely cut out. Now, it won't fix multiplayer issues, but it'd at least be a solution for being able to play games SP.  
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46. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 15:02 Silicon Avatar
 
avianflu wrote on Aug 20, 2013, 10:58:
You guys realize that this is just step one to whatever version of the "MS APP Store" will be forced upon us in December with the release of the new console and the Windows 8.1 "patch"?

I am glad to see GFW dead but it will just be re-instituted in a different annoying way.

This seems the most likely scenario.
 
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45. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 12:29 Axis
 
Only version of GFWL I've used on my PC is xliveless hacked dll's. GFWL is, was, always will be garbage.  
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44. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 12:10 MxxCon
 
bigspender wrote on Aug 20, 2013, 08:53:
MxxCon wrote on Aug 20, 2013, 03:08:
Flo wrote on Aug 20, 2013, 03:04:
bigspender wrote on Aug 20, 2013, 02:50:
microsoft should just buy steam and make that the official game store. end of story. (provided they don't interfere with how things are) everyone would be a winnar.
+1
Right, Microsoft will want to allow continue the support of Linux and OSX gaming.
Right, Microsoft will want to allow continue of existence of a platform which they do not control when they invested $billions into xbox

You 2 are nearsighted idiots or trolls.

Go play consoles and stop coming to bluesnews!

Linux and OSX lol - why would I go to a pizza shop to buy a lawn mower?
Because YOU are an idiot..?
 
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43. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 11:35 Verno
 
Of course but no one cares since no one will use it.  
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42. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 10:58 avianflu
 
You guys realize that this is just step one to whatever version of the "MS APP Store" will be forced upon us in December with the release of the new console and the Windows 8.1 "patch"?

I am glad to see GFW dead but it will just be re-instituted in a different annoying way.
 
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41. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 10:40 Prez
 
bigspender wrote on Aug 20, 2013, 02:50:
microsoft should just buy steam and make that the official game store. end of story. (provided they don't interfere with how things are) everyone would be a winnar.


Jesus tap-dancing Christ, no fucking way! Microsoft is a giant fuck-up. They don't need to be within 10 miles of Steam, never mind buying it.

This comment was edited on Aug 20, 2013, 12:33.
 
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40. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 10:29 HorrorScope
 
Ladron3dfx wrote on Aug 20, 2013, 06:36:
HorrorScope wrote on Aug 19, 2013, 20:49:
So what happens to the games that require GFWL?

They become broken and worthless. All 73 games that require GFWL plus DLC. All of it goes to hell.

I will not install/use any pirate tool to make them function and replacing the DRM with Steamworks is out of the question.


That seems to me to be the correct answer. There are several Single Player games that on install require GFWL setup. With it out of the equation, those installs will now fail, unless patched. This does f'up a number of games. Now chances are I wasn't planning on going back, but I know how this bunches panties in gameland.

Also to the MS buy Steam, hellz no! The person who wrote that should be banned!!! LOL

Also to another conversation, is the hate around Origin/Uplay etc just because it's another game launcher where as you only want one? I can see you wanting a single point, but I think the venom towards other services is well overboard then. They have a right to compete to. I figured the hate was because many had some type of technical issue with it. I have pretty much all, they all seem to work straight forward and well enough. I don't sweat it as I can fathom that maintaining multiple launchers is considered work these days.
 
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39. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 10:10 LurkerLito
 
While I have no love or hate for GFWL, MS just shutting it off is a big problem. There are many games that use it as it's DRM, and many still use it as requirement before even letting you save your game. The Patch for these games should NOT come from the developer, it has to come from Microsoft. A final "patch" to GFWL that makes all "online" profiles "offline" and makes each program think it's online, that way when a game goes to check if you're online before it saves to your HD, it just gets the go ahead from the GFWL crap that still installed on the system. That way all the devs, especially the ones that are no longer in business, don't have to do a thing.

As a mainly offline gamer, I don't care about GFWL being shutdown, but as a gamer I am pretty dam concerned that I won't be able to play a number of games I bought because it needs GFWL to even function as a single player game.
 
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38. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 09:55 Total-Khaos
 
InBlack wrote on Aug 20, 2013, 03:17:
Total-Khaos wrote on Aug 20, 2013, 02:34:
MxxCon wrote on Aug 20, 2013, 02:09:
PC Market thrives on competition, not monopoly!

Sorry, I completely disagree. The PC market needs a monopoly to thrive. There are so many various combinations of PC hardware / software nowadays that it is getting really hard (and expensive) to support everything available to consumers. People love Steam because of the simple interface and the fact that most games are available on that digital distribution platform. I personally want just ONE place to get all my games, as do most people. Why do you think everyone despises Origin? Forcing people to use a digital distribution system to play your games instead of catering to the masses (Steam) was a really poor business decision and it just causes customer backlash. It is really no wonder why people are jumping from the PC ship.

You have no idea what drives growth and innovation do you?? You are wrong.

Actually, I do, and the PC market has been slowly fading away. Half-assed ports started showing up when the console gaming market exploded and PC gamers have been burned multiple times as a result on some pretty well known AAA titles. GTA4 ring a bell? The list goes on. 15-20 years ago, the PC market dominated because you simply couldn't get PC quality titles on your Nintendo or Genesis. Oh, how the tables have turned...
 
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37. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 09:52 Flo
 
You 2 are nearsighted idiots or trolls.

Go play consoles and stop coming to bluesnews!
Hehe, nice try kid.
 
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36. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 09:44 necrosis
 
Flo wrote on Aug 20, 2013, 03:04:
bigspender wrote on Aug 20, 2013, 02:50:
microsoft should just buy steam and make that the official game store. end of story. (provided they don't interfere with how things are) everyone would be a winnar.
+1
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MS should NEVER buy Steam. Use Steam yes, buy it NEVER.
 
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35. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 09:40 El Pit
 
Microsoft buying Steam/Valve would be the worst case scenario for pc gamers.  
Consoles? I owned two: a Pong clone and an Atari 2600. And that's it.
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34. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 09:12 Yakubs
 
Fine but will it still install SecureROM on your computer like the previous two games?  
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33. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 09:11 Dev
 
More than likely its because MS will be releasing the next iteration, the one that goes with xbox one and windows 8.

But then again it could just be because MS hates PC gamers and this is how they are rededicating themselves to it. I bet none of the GFWL games will bother remaking themselves for steam instead.
 
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32. Re: No GFWL for Batman: Arkham Origins - GFWL & AOE Online Ending Next Year? Aug 20, 2013, 08:53 bigspender
 
MxxCon wrote on Aug 20, 2013, 03:08:
Flo wrote on Aug 20, 2013, 03:04:
bigspender wrote on Aug 20, 2013, 02:50:
microsoft should just buy steam and make that the official game store. end of story. (provided they don't interfere with how things are) everyone would be a winnar.
+1
Right, Microsoft will want to allow continue the support of Linux and OSX gaming.
Right, Microsoft will want to allow continue of existence of a platform which they do not control when they invested $billions into xbox

You 2 are nearsighted idiots or trolls.

Go play consoles and stop coming to bluesnews!

Linux and OSX lol - why would I go to a pizza shop to buy a lawn mower?
 
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