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10. Re: Verizon Jul 20, 2013, 22:50 Ant
 
HorrorScope wrote on Jul 18, 2013, 10:53:
I for one think Verizon needs to increase their rates, only 6.6b's in a quarter.
No. Verizon needs to increase its FIOS deployments.
 
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9. Re: Morning Mobilization Jul 19, 2013, 15:29 killer_roach
 
HorrorScope wrote on Jul 18, 2013, 21:13:
And as you mentioned how well MS does even though it fumbles all over it self. Hard to believe the stock hasn't done nothing in years.

Basically because it's maintained about that level of profit for a while now. Profits alone don't tend to drive increases in share prices - but growth in profits does. Also, additionally Microsoft has instituted dividend payouts more recently that are halfway decent, meaning that the stock has only "done nothing" if you aren't reinvesting the dividends.

That tends to be the path of a lot of more "mature" companies - the stock tends not to do a whole lot, but the dividend payments give people returns not unlike what a good savings or money market account would get you back in the day.
 
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8. Re: Morning Mobilization Jul 19, 2013, 03:39 InBlack
 
Fuck em, spread the wealth bastards!  
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7. Re: Morning Mobilization Jul 18, 2013, 21:13 HorrorScope
 
killer_roach wrote on Jul 18, 2013, 20:34:
HorrorScope wrote on Jul 18, 2013, 20:26:
killer_roach wrote on Jul 18, 2013, 16:07:
HorrorScope wrote on Jul 18, 2013, 10:53:
I for one think Verizon needs to increase their rates, only 6.6b's in a quarter.

$5.4 billion profit in the quarter, on $29.8 billion in revenue.

That's a profit margin of 18.1%, compared to, among other huge companies, 21.7% in the most recent quarter for Apple (9.5 on 43.6) and 37.1% for Microsoft (7.61 on 20.49).

18.1% is amazing. Tons of very large companies are way under 10%.

The bigger they are in terms of revenue, the lower they typically are in terms of profit margins.

I should probably have tried to look for more apt comparisons in the telecom sector, but there aren't many apart from AT&T (which, from looking at their most recent earnings, they're around 12%).

And as you mentioned how well MS does even though it fumbles all over it self. Hard to believe the stock hasn't done nothing in years.
 
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6. Re: Morning Mobilization Jul 18, 2013, 20:34 killer_roach
 
HorrorScope wrote on Jul 18, 2013, 20:26:
killer_roach wrote on Jul 18, 2013, 16:07:
HorrorScope wrote on Jul 18, 2013, 10:53:
I for one think Verizon needs to increase their rates, only 6.6b's in a quarter.

$5.4 billion profit in the quarter, on $29.8 billion in revenue.

That's a profit margin of 18.1%, compared to, among other huge companies, 21.7% in the most recent quarter for Apple (9.5 on 43.6) and 37.1% for Microsoft (7.61 on 20.49).

18.1% is amazing. Tons of very large companies are way under 10%.

The bigger they are in terms of revenue, the lower they typically are in terms of profit margins.

I should probably have tried to look for more apt comparisons in the telecom sector, but there aren't many apart from AT&T (which, from looking at their most recent earnings, they're around 12%).
 
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5. Re: Morning Mobilization Jul 18, 2013, 20:26 HorrorScope
 
killer_roach wrote on Jul 18, 2013, 16:07:
HorrorScope wrote on Jul 18, 2013, 10:53:
I for one think Verizon needs to increase their rates, only 6.6b's in a quarter.

$5.4 billion profit in the quarter, on $29.8 billion in revenue.

That's a profit margin of 18.1%, compared to, among other huge companies, 21.7% in the most recent quarter for Apple (9.5 on 43.6) and 37.1% for Microsoft (7.61 on 20.49).

18.1% is amazing. Tons of very large companies are way under 10%.
 
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4. Re: Morning Mobilization Jul 18, 2013, 16:07 killer_roach
 
HorrorScope wrote on Jul 18, 2013, 10:53:
I for one think Verizon needs to increase their rates, only 6.6b's in a quarter.

$5.4 billion profit in the quarter, on $29.8 billion in revenue.

That's a profit margin of 18.1%, compared to, among other huge companies, 21.7% in the most recent quarter for Apple (9.5 on 43.6) and 37.1% for Microsoft (7.61 on 20.49).

(EDIT: Microsoft just issued a new quarterly report today, where they earned 4.97 billion on 19.9 billion in revenue, or a 25% profit margin. Doesn't affect the comparison, but I prefer to deal with current data.)

Of course, on the other end of the spectrum, you have Walmart's 5.7% (6.5 on 113.4) and ExxonMobil's 9.8% (9.5 on 96.9).

If anything, Verizon's profit margin, from looking back previous quarters, was significantly higher this quarter than it's been in the past few years (where it's been typically ~10% or so). As to why that might be, I can't exactly fathom a good guess without really diving into their quarterly SEC report, but I'm going to guess that earnings growth of that type likely indicates a slowing down of capital expenditures (less upgrades to their network).

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3. Re: Morning Mobilization Jul 18, 2013, 14:13 jdreyer
 
HorrorScope wrote on Jul 18, 2013, 10:53:
I for one think Verizon needs to increase their rates, only 6.6b's in a quarter.

It must be nice being a monopoly/duopoly with all the politicians in your back pocket.

But we can't have telecom regulation cuz that would be unfair.
 
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2. Re: Morning Mobilization Jul 18, 2013, 13:12 dj LiTh
 
Screw rates, as an expat i think they should increase their dividends!  
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1. Re: Morning Mobilization Jul 18, 2013, 10:53 HorrorScope
 
I for one think Verizon needs to increase their rates, only 6.6b's in a quarter.  
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