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MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks

Your Feedback Matters Update on Xbox One has word that Microsoft is pulling a 180 on the online requirement/DRM aspect of their upcoming Xbox One console system that alienated the core gaming community (thanks Giant Bomb and whathifi via Kotaku and nin). Give them credit for spin, as they focus on the love in the feedback they got on this, saying: "You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world." Here's word, where they also announce they no longer plan on having games region locked:

So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:

  • An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
  • Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.

In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console -- there will be no regional restrictions.

These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.

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48. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:42 merloid
 
Yeah, I don't buy it. They seem genuinely shocked that people were offended by their restrictions and I don't have any faith in people don't understand why they were wrong, only that they were.

Heck, before this, they fired someone who delivered the exact same message they spouted a month later. Is someone getting canned over this, too?
 
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47. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:37 NKD
 
Drayth wrote on Jun 19, 2013, 18:26:
I just keep thinking back to the Angry Joe interview where the guy grabs the mic and says "Really? It's as easy as flipping a switch? Were you on the development team, Joe?".

OMG... he WAS on the development team! :O

To be fair, it might be as easy as flipping a switch for Larry and Don, but the people who actually have to implement all this shit and have no say in the decision making probably now have a lot of crunch time ahead of them. All because these fucktards can't make up their minds. How much? Impossible to say without knowing their development process, but the bitch of development is that it is sometimes harder to remove something than it is to add it.
 
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46. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:33 jdreyer
 
mag wrote on Jun 19, 2013, 17:04:
Holy damn. I don't know if I've ever seen such fast and dramatic capitulation to consumer demands from MS.

Probably had less to do with consumer demands (which they could care less about) than with consumer money. As in, they weren't getting any since no one was pre-ordering.
 
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45. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:30 jdreyer
 
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

*wipes eyes*

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!
 
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44. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:30 Rattlehead
 
Drayth wrote on Jun 19, 2013, 18:26:
I just keep thinking back to the Angry Joe interview where the guy grabs the mic and says "Really? It's as easy as flipping a switch? Were you on the development team, Joe?".

OMG... he WAS on the development team! :O
LOL I was literally watching that exact video as I read this. Angry Joe is awesome.
 
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43. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:26 Drayth
 
I just keep thinking back to the Angry Joe interview where the guy grabs the mic and says "Really? It's as easy as flipping a switch? Were you on the development team, Joe?".

OMG... he WAS on the development team! :O
 
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42. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:24 ASeven
 
They had no chance, they were forced to do this or risk seeing their console be steamrolled by the PS4. Hell, I'm pretty sure they did this after seeing their own pre-order numbers plummet after the PS4 announcement.

Still, it'll be amusing to see what all those guys, like the one who said to get a 360 to play offline, have to say now. The spin will be hilarious. And I think a lot of gamers will not come back to the xbox after all this debacle.

 
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41. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:22 Drayth
 
psych!  
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40. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:21 Rattlehead
 
NICE. THIS IS THE POWER OF THE VOICE OF GAMERS UNITED. CAPS EMPHASIZED!!!!!!!!!!!!  
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39. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:20 Beamer
 
nin wrote on Jun 19, 2013, 18:04:
I now christen thee "XBOne180"...


Ha!

But... XBOneEighty?

Still ha!
 
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38. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:19 Dr. D. Schreber
 
Probably should've expected this, since it's quite likely the only reason they tried to do this in the first place and then sell it all as a feature-set was the assumption that Sony was going to do the exact same thing (I think Blue posted an article speculating exactly this a week or so ago.) It was probably completely impossible in their minds that Sony would do the exact opposite, and when they did, Redmond became a sea of "what."  
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37. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:18 Grumpy Sod
 
Nobody else mentioning the fact they've backtracked on the only thing some (myself included) saw as a new plus?

These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold.

This also now means that all those people saying 'Shut up Steam fanboys, stop ignoring that XBOne is doing this too' regarding sharing are now, in fact, incorrect.
 
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36. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:14 Pankin
 
nin wrote on Jun 19, 2013, 18:04:
I now christen thee "XBOne180"...
Nice one.
 
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35. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:12 ldonyo
 
As if you couldn't see this change coming from miles away. Microsoft had to see just how negative the reaction was going to be before 'doing the right thing'.  
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34. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:04 nin
 

I now christen thee "XBOne180"...

 
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33. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:02 Tanto Edge
 
GO XBONE YOURSELF!  
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32. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:01 Beamer
 
NKD wrote on Jun 19, 2013, 17:54:
nin wrote on Jun 19, 2013, 17:45:
So, will EA try to go back to online passes now?



Considering they were publishing on PS4 without them, probably not.

Didn't Dark Souls, or some such, feature console-locking?
I thought I saw that mentioned here today.

If it happened on the PS3 it'll happen on the PS4, probably more often, and presumably the XBOne now.
 
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31. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:01 Creston
 
wtf_man wrote on Jun 19, 2013, 17:45:
Well... it's a beginning, and I'm glad they had some sense knocked into them by the gaming community.


As much as I'd love to say that it was gamers bitching that caused this, it really wasn't. It was places like Gamestop and Best Buy simply refusing to take Xbone preorders anymore, and actively steering people towards a PS4 (if reports are to be believed) that would have caused it. Microsoft doesn't give a flying fuck about its customers, only about publishers and retail channels.

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30. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 18:00 Beamer
 
Frags4Fun wrote on Jun 19, 2013, 17:20:
Atomic wrote on Jun 19, 2013, 17:17:
No mention of a reversal of the creepy always-on Kinect stuff though. I'll pass.

^^Exactly!

Which is crazy.
The always on has SOME benefit to all gamers, as a lot of games can take advantage of things.
The Kinect always on doesn't.

Take State of Decay. I'd love if the Xbox would occasionally phone home and pull in other people's teams/bases/players for me to interact with. Not competitively, but add some color and give me some other parties to trade with.
This isn't a necessity, just a nice-to-have, but it's hard to code for it if you can't count on it. Any Kinect interaction is more optional.
 
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29. Re: MS Backtracks on Xbox One DRM & Region Locks Jun 19, 2013, 17:54 NKD
 
nin wrote on Jun 19, 2013, 17:45:
So, will EA try to go back to online passes now?



Considering they were publishing on PS4 without them, probably not.
 
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