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No One Knows Who Owns NOLF

A post on One Of Swords has a new episode of One of Swords TV where "Activision community management team of one" Dan Amrich attempts to sort through the sticky issue of who owns the rights to No One Lives Forever, Monolith's spy spoof series, last known to be the property of Vivendi Games after they acquired with the Fox Interactive catalog. Since Vivendi eventually merged with Activision, he seems like the one to ask, and Dan explains that some of the IP they ended up with as a result of that merger has since been sold off, using the example of Leisure Suit Larry, and that many of the games they retained are now being sold on GOG.com, using the example of the King's Quest series. As for NOLF, he says this is something he's asked about himself, going on to explain:

The person that I normally talk to about this stuff does not believe that we currently the rights. They've never seen it, they've never been given the permission to put that stuff on Good Old Games. He said, basically, 'If we had it, I would love to be able to reissue those old games.' So, that leaves the question if Activision no longer has the rights to No One Lives Forever, who does? Monolith was the developer that handled those games, and they are now part of WB. So I thought, maybe at the time when Activision was saying 'we'll keep these, we'll leave these, we'll sell these, whatever,' maybe Monolith stepped up and took their IP back. So I contacted a friend at Monolith... and he doesn't know. Uh, so, unfortunately, all I can definitively say is that at this time I do not believe that Activision has the rights to No One Lives Forever.

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36. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 7, 2013, 01:33 Tanto Edge
 
wraithnix wrote on Apr 7, 2013, 01:02:
Shataan wrote on Apr 7, 2013, 00:45:
NOLF had its` moments, but I`d rather have a Next Gen PC GoldenEye. ;p

Hell yes! Although I'd love to see both.

I'm assuming you know of the Source mod to this effect?
 
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35. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 7, 2013, 01:02 wraithnix
 
Shataan wrote on Apr 7, 2013, 00:45:
NOLF had its` moments, but I`d rather have a Next Gen PC GoldenEye. ;p

Hell yes! Although I'd love to see both.
 
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34. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 7, 2013, 00:45 Shataan
 
NOLF had its` moments, but I`d rather have a Next Gen PC GoldenEye. ;p  
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33. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 6, 2013, 23:07 Ant
 
mystery8 wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 22:46:
NOLF rocked. It'd be great if they could figure out who owns them so they can be listed on GOG.com. Or maybe even a sequel
A good sequel. Who wants a crappy sequel?
 
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32. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 6, 2013, 22:46 mystery8
 
NOLF rocked. It'd be great if they could figure out who owns them so they can be listed on GOG.com. Or maybe even a sequel  
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31. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 6, 2013, 21:25 Ant
 
Jivaro wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 19:55:
Ant wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 17:57:
.net_Drifter wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 17:55:
Pretty sure there already was a third NOLF game, of sorts.
Did you play as one of the bad guys or something?
Contract J.A.C.K. sucked.

It didn't suck...it just wasn't as awesome as the NOLF games. It was pretty vanilla. And buggy.

Okay, yeah...it sucked.
Duh! GameRankings and old thread for proofs. Hehe, I see my brief comment. Dang, so long ago!
 
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30. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 6, 2013, 19:55 Jivaro
 
Ant wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 17:57:
.net_Drifter wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 17:55:
Pretty sure there already was a third NOLF game, of sorts.
Did you play as one of the bad guys or something?
Contract J.A.C.K. sucked.

It didn't suck...it just wasn't as awesome as the NOLF games. It was pretty vanilla. And buggy.

Okay, yeah...it sucked.
 
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29. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 6, 2013, 19:27 KezClone
 
Madness.

This is an IP I'd like to see in Valve's hands.
 
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28. Re: Out of the Blue Apr 6, 2013, 19:20 Rigs
 
Ant wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 17:57:
Kajetan wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 14:30:
Steele Johnson wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 13:42:
TychoCelchuuu wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 11:48:
Oh come on, there's an easy way to figure this out. Just pretend to announce a new NOLF game and wait to see who sues you.

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C++

Oh! Right! Sorry... C#

Much better...

In any event, I have NOLF2 for sale over at SimHQ in their Buy/Sell/Trade forum (you have to register to get to it, I think, but I also have about a million other games on the list too). It's in great condition as I haven't played it in...oh, at least a decade...


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'I know what you think you are, what you want us to believe! But I don't buy it! For three years now you've been pulling everyone's strings, getting us to do all the work, and you haven't done a damn thing except stand there and look cryptic.'
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27. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 6, 2013, 17:57 Ant
 
Kajetan wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 14:30:
Steele Johnson wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 13:42:
TychoCelchuuu wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 11:48:
Oh come on, there's an easy way to figure this out. Just pretend to announce a new NOLF game and wait to see who sues you.

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I own it. Cate Archer is all mine. J/K!
 
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26. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 6, 2013, 17:57 Ant
 
.net_Drifter wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 17:55:
Pretty sure there already was a third NOLF game, of sorts.
Did you play as one of the bad guys or something?
Contract J.A.C.K. sucked.
 
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25. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 6, 2013, 17:55 .Drifter
 
Pretty sure there already was a third NOLF game, of sorts.
Did you play as one of the bad guys or something?
 
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24. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 6, 2013, 17:29 DNForever
 
Those games both ruled. I would love to see them continued with todays technology.  
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23. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 6, 2013, 17:02 ViRGE
 
Well crap. I lost my copy of NOLF 2 long ago. I'd love to rebuy it and NOLF 1 had I been given the chance.  
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22. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 6, 2013, 16:34 Hoop
 
Are you insulting my monkey!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq5tLqTyuO0
 
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Um .. Behind you...
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21. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 6, 2013, 16:33 killer_roach
 
Dev wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 14:56:
killer_roach wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 12:33:
Dev wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 12:09:
One would think that whoever owns it would be willing to just sit back and cash the checks from GoG and steam by putting it up there. But for some reason, some companies don't seem to want to make money.

Legal gets scared about doing anything that would open them up to being sued, especially since putting a game up on GOG without authorization could amount to commercial piracy (and open them up to near-unlimited liability).

Then again, it was Legal that botched their sales contracts, which is the reason why nobody knows where the rights are...
You quoted wrong person.

MY quote includes this key phrase "whoever owns it". I've highlighted it. Just to be crystal clear, by "it" I mean the rights.
Someone putting a game up on GoG without authorization... doesn't own it.

But if nobody is sure they own it, then it doesn't happen. That's what I'm getting at.
 
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20. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 6, 2013, 15:12 Mad Max RW
 
It's even worse with the rights to Monolith's AvP2 and why it will never see a re-release on Steam, GoG, or elsewhere.  
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19. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 6, 2013, 14:56 Dev
 
killer_roach wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 12:33:
Dev wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 12:09:
One would think that whoever owns it would be willing to just sit back and cash the checks from GoG and steam by putting it up there. But for some reason, some companies don't seem to want to make money.

Legal gets scared about doing anything that would open them up to being sued, especially since putting a game up on GOG without authorization could amount to commercial piracy (and open them up to near-unlimited liability).

Then again, it was Legal that botched their sales contracts, which is the reason why nobody knows where the rights are...
You quoted wrong person.

MY quote includes this key phrase "whoever owns it". I've highlighted it. Just to be crystal clear, by "it" I mean the rights.
Someone putting a game up on GoG without authorization... doesn't own it.
 
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18. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 6, 2013, 14:50 Beelzebud
 
TychoCelchuuu wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 11:48:
Oh come on, there's an easy way to figure this out. Just pretend to announce a new NOLF game and wait to see who sues you.

It would at least help you narrow it down.
 
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17. Re: No One Knows Who Owns NOLF Apr 6, 2013, 14:30 Kajetan
 
Steele Johnson wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 13:42:
TychoCelchuuu wrote on Apr 6, 2013, 11:48:
Oh come on, there's an easy way to figure this out. Just pretend to announce a new NOLF game and wait to see who sues you.

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