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49. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 17:06 NegaDeath
 
Update:

Microsoft apologizes for the tweets but doesn't confirm or deny the always online thing. Silence sometimes speaks volumes.
 
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48. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 17:04 deqer
 
Meanwhile, at Sony... http://i.minus.com/ipHqzgSb9E2MY.gif  
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47. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 16:58 Julio
 
Since Microsoft wants to give PS4 the next gen console market, I guess they're depending on Windows 8 to pull their nuts out of the fire.

Go PS4!
 
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46. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 16:41 Jivaro
 
I guess Microsoft just thinks that the profits from Live subs and the data mined from the connection to it's customers is worth the risk an "always-on" pipeline opens up.  
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45. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 16:28 Beamer
 
Verno wrote on Apr 5, 2013, 16:14:
Looking at it from a different perspective, do you really want to build your entire product around something an unscrupulous competitor could DDOS?

I hope these are nothing are just rumors but seeing comments from people like that idiot really make you wonder.
Yup.
The arguments I often make for why this is a bad idea typically don't come from a consumer perspective but from a Microsoft one, because even if you think Microsoft doesn't care about what's good for the consumer (and there's historical reason to make this argument), they certainly wouldn't want to do something that's bad for them (arguably anything bad for the consumer is bad for them, but...)

 
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44. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 16:23 SpectralMeat
 
His comment may not be a company statement but it gives you an idea how those morons think. "Hey what's the big deal about always connected, 99% of our customers live in downtown New York and does nothing but plays CoD online all year round anyways"
Like we did not have so many examples over the years already what the problem is with always connected.


 
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43. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 16:14 Verno
 
Looking at it from a different perspective, do you really want to build your entire product around something an unscrupulous competitor could DDOS?

I hope these are nothing are just rumors but seeing comments from people like that idiot really make you wonder.
 
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42. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 16:08 Jivaro
 
Wow...he is really getting pounded over this. I was thinking this would kind of wash over quickly since it was a personal opinion and not a company statement.

I still think there will be at least 2 "nextboxes". One very similar to the PS4 and the other will be a closed box that uses only digitally downloaded stuff. It seems to me that MS wants console gaming to operate very much like cell phones....the money is in the subscriptions, not the hardware. I doubt seriously they would try to force that switch across their entire user base in one single generation.

Then again, nothing these large corporations do surprises me anymore. It is like the decision makers are detached from reality.
 
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41. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 16:05 deqer
 
"NIKE. Just do it"

"XBOX720 AlwaysOnline. Deal with it"
 
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40. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 16:01 SpectralMeat
 
Now I really wish that Microsoft go through with this always online shit, let them burn!  
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39. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 16:00 Mr. Tact
 
"Works at Microsoft"

"Sony Employee of the Month"
 
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38. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 16:00 SpectralMeat
 
Verno wrote on Apr 5, 2013, 15:36:
Haha this guy is getting absolutely roasted. First two pages there are gold.
ROFL!
 
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37. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 15:56 NegaDeath
 
If Sony is smart, and serious about not needing to always be online with PS4, they should be using this as ammo right now.  
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36. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 15:49 Verno
 
"Offline gaming? Like my wife tells me, you've got 3 minutes."

"My head is always connected...to my ass."

Hahah holy shit.
 
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35. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 15:40 Mr. Tact
 
LOL -- That's great Verno. Thanks.  
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34. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 15:36 Verno
 
Haha this guy is getting absolutely roasted. First two pages there are gold.

This comment was edited on Apr 5, 2013, 15:47.
 
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33. Re: More Big Picture Details Apr 5, 2013, 15:24 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Apr 5, 2013, 15:19:
Yeah, being worried that a corporation can shut down a server on a whim and thus prevent you from ever playing the game you paid for on your console is totally people just being overly dramatic. Rolleyes

I wouldn't even go this far. Worrying that the servers will be down when I'm in the middle of a game, or jonesing for a game, is being overly dramatic?

Those issues are more likely, less controllable, and more immediately impactful than your situation. There's no way that Microsoft could deny that these things would happen the way it can deny that it wouldn't keep servers up for years.
You don't even need to get to that argument to see the problem with calling this dramatic. Look at Diablo 3. Look at SC5. Immediate problems for people that want to play. It's not dramatic when it's happening everywhere this is attempted.
 
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32. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 15:21 Ozmodan
 
Exactly why Microsoft is on a downward spiral, they think they know better than their customers what they need.

If you own Microsoft stock, sell it, it is not going to get better.
 
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31. Re: More Big Picture Details Apr 5, 2013, 15:19 Prez
 
Yeah, being worried that a corporation can shut down a server on a whim and thus prevent you from ever playing the game you paid for on your console is totally people just being overly dramatic. Rolleyes  
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30. Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 5, 2013, 15:12 Verno
 
Lord Tea wrote on Apr 5, 2013, 14:48:
So much fuss about... what? a console? that wants to be online, always?

Fine. Not joining the rant parade. Never owned a console, never will.

Fun thread, guys.

You clicked on Morning Consolidation so yeah, there might be people discussing consoles Guy Who Has Never Owned One Number1
 
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