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Into the Black

I'm suffering from a little self-inflicted computer issue that's preventing me from accessing my email at the moment. I hope to work through this soon enough, but didn't want to hold up the news any longer.

R.I.P.: Roger Ebert, renowned film critic, dies at age 70. I know a lot of gamers remain irate over the whole "art" thing, but he was about the only critic I was a fan of, and I'm sad about his death.

Link of the Day: Roger Ebert Hails Human Existence As 'A Triumph'. Thanks loonyboi.

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27. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 16:53 jdreyer
 
Beamer wrote on Apr 5, 2013, 14:39:
Mr. Tact wrote on Apr 5, 2013, 13:26:
What I remember most about Ebert's reviews is they weren't a good barometer of how much I would like a movie. Sometimes he loved movies I liked, sometimes he hated movies I liked. And not in a pattern that I was able to discern. I don't think he was a hack. He was paid for his opinions, and he gave them. You don't agree with his opinions? That's fine, everyone is entitled to their own.

Ebert was very good at teaching you why you should or should not respect a movie. Liking something and respecting it are different. One is emotional, the other less so.

In that way, he was like a fantastic tour guide at a museum. When most people walk into a museum they look at some of the art and go "my 5 year old could have done that!" A good tour guide will help the person to understand why the piece is special, skillful, and deserving of its place in the museum.
Ebert was excellent at helping you understand why the movie you loved was actually poorly made (which doesn't necessarily make it bad), or the movie you hated was actually an amazing feat (which doesn't necessarily make it entertaining.)

Walter Chaw is the only critic going I fully respect now, but he rarely writes, and those of you whining that Ebert is too liberal will hate an Asian guy that loves pointing out how ridiculous some of the ethnic stereotypes and racism of major films are.

Right, Ebert's approach wasn't "Did I like this movie," but rather "What was this movie trying to do and did it do that?" That approach went for in translating his review into my own preferences.

I recommend the filmcast podcast at slashfim.com. Funny and entertaining, and they always give spoiler warnings.
 
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26. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 16:39 Mr. Tact
 
Yeah, that sounds right, thinking about it some more... DOOM was launched in 1993, and I'm pretty sure I got it from ExecPC. And when I did that it was a common place for me to go looking for new software/games.  
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25. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 16:31 Mr. Tact
 
After checking Wikipedia...

ExecPC BBS launched in 1983, but I probably wasn't on until 1992 or so just before the web got going (Mosaic was released in 1993). The Wiki page says he connected the site to the web in 1996, I remember when that happened. So, I used it on and off for 4-5 years. I'm old enough that by then I wasn't a kid and was out living on my own...
 
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24. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 16:20 Ant
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Apr 5, 2013, 16:14:
Long distance! Well worth it. Grin
But yeah, most of the time on local boards.
Sheesh, you paid for that as a kid?!?! I got yelled for that. LOL. I think it was $150. Oops.
 
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23. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 16:14 Mr. Tact
 
Long distance! Well worth it. Grin
But yeah, most of the time on local boards.
 
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22. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 16:12 Ant
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Apr 5, 2013, 16:10:
Ahh, BBSes. Those were the days. ExecPC BBS! That was rockin' baby! Rockstar
Wow, you called LD or was it local to you? I used local BBSes. I did get in trouble for calling near by cities that were toll calls. DOH! I still remember early online gaming on a local MajorBBS with its SirDOOM, MUD, etc. We even tried Kali on it, but it didn't work so well. Fun days.
 
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21. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 16:10 Mr. Tact
 
Ahh, BBSes. Those were the days. ExecPC BBS! That was rockin' baby! Rockstar  
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20. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 16:06 Ant
 
mch wrote on Apr 5, 2013, 16:03:
If you find the archive of old Compuserve forum posts, look for a post from account 1571515817598 or however they named things. What a mess.

But no, I didn't apologize because I still hadn't figured out what all those Internet people meant when they said I was 'screaming'...

God I was a stupid child
Haha, I was a stupid callow ant too like on BBSes. :O

FYI, Google didn't find 1571515817598 ... I wonder if contacting CompuServe about very old days would do anything. Haha. I still remember my Prodigy IDs!
 
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19. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 16:03 mch
 
If you find the archive of old Compuserve forum posts, look for a post from account 1571515817598 or however they named things. What a mess.

But no, I didn't apologize because I still hadn't figured out what all those Internet people meant when they said I was 'screaming'...

God I was a stupid child
 
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18. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 15:12 Ant
 
mch wrote on Apr 5, 2013, 15:07:
Ant wrote on Apr 5, 2013, 14:29:
What did he say to you?

Oh god I wish I could remember, this was years and years ago (well, obviously...if Compuserve was around). It was a well reasoned, calm response if I remember correctly. It was probably pretty clear from my post that I was a kid.
Heh. Did you say sorry to him for screaming in your post?

I wonder of there are archive of CompuServe stuff on the Internet. Hmm!
 
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17. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 15:07 mch
 
Ant wrote on Apr 5, 2013, 14:29:
What did he say to you?

Oh god I wish I could remember, this was years and years ago (well, obviously...if Compuserve was around). It was a well reasoned, calm response if I remember correctly. It was probably pretty clear from my post that I was a kid.
 
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16. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 14:39 Beamer
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Apr 5, 2013, 13:26:
What I remember most about Ebert's reviews is they weren't a good barometer of how much I would like a movie. Sometimes he loved movies I liked, sometimes he hated movies I liked. And not in a pattern that I was able to discern. I don't think he was a hack. He was paid for his opinions, and he gave them. You don't agree with his opinions? That's fine, everyone is entitled to their own.

Ebert was very good at teaching you why you should or should not respect a movie. Liking something and respecting it are different. One is emotional, the other less so.

In that way, he was like a fantastic tour guide at a museum. When most people walk into a museum they look at some of the art and go "my 5 year old could have done that!" A good tour guide will help the person to understand why the piece is special, skillful, and deserving of its place in the museum.
Ebert was excellent at helping you understand why the movie you loved was actually poorly made (which doesn't necessarily make it bad), or the movie you hated was actually an amazing feat (which doesn't necessarily make it entertaining.)

Walter Chaw is the only critic going I fully respect now, but he rarely writes, and those of you whining that Ebert is too liberal will hate an Asian guy that loves pointing out how ridiculous some of the ethnic stereotypes and racism of major films are.
 
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15. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 14:30 Ant
 
Fantaz wrote on Apr 5, 2013, 01:44:
R.I.P.: Roger Ebert... but 70 is just too early an age to die imo
Yep, 79 too for my grand queen ant a few weeks ago. :~(
 
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14. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 14:29 Ant
 
mch wrote on Apr 5, 2013, 10:14:
I remember when I was a young kid, he wrote a nasty review of Ace Ventura or the sequel (which weren't exactly fine cinema). I took to the Compuserve forums (I think he sponsored one specifically for his reviews or feedback) and left a huge, all-caps tirade about how his review was unfair.

Anyway the thread blew up into a huge, multi-page disaster, mostly full of people complaining that I was "yelling" ...which I didn't understand at the time. To his credit, he actually did respond to my screaming 12-or-something-year-old self. God knows I wouldn't have responded to me.

Rest in peace.
What did he say to you?
 
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13. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 13:26 Mr. Tact
 
What I remember most about Ebert's reviews is they weren't a good barometer of how much I would like a movie. Sometimes he loved movies I liked, sometimes he hated movies I liked. And not in a pattern that I was able to discern. I don't think he was a hack. He was paid for his opinions, and he gave them. You don't agree with his opinions? That's fine, everyone is entitled to their own.

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12. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 13:11 Verno
 
RIP Ebert, I didn't agree with his politics but he was always well spoken and insightful about films.  
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11. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 10:14 mch
 
I remember when I was a young kid, he wrote a nasty review of Ace Ventura or the sequel (which weren't exactly fine cinema). I took to the Compuserve forums (I think he sponsored one specifically for his reviews or feedback) and left a huge, all-caps tirade about how his review was unfair.

Anyway the thread blew up into a huge, multi-page disaster, mostly full of people complaining that I was "yelling" ...which I didn't understand at the time. To his credit, he actually did respond to my screaming 12-or-something-year-old self. God knows I wouldn't have responded to me.

Rest in peace.
 
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10. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 09:56 RollinThundr
 
InBlack wrote on Apr 5, 2013, 06:01:
I read some reviews by him and he was spot on about 50% of the time. Which is better than most critics. He was a proper better-than-thou douche though, and gave away a lot of spoilers which pissed me off to no end and is the main reason why I stopped reading his reviews.

Well he was a liberal, kinda fits with the whole better-than-thou douche attitude.
 
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9. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 09:25 Xero
 
Fantaz wrote on Apr 5, 2013, 01:44:
R.I.P.: Roger Ebert... but 70 is just too early an age to die imo

He was battling cancer. Cancer will take you at any age... I've known someone in his 20s die to cancer... 26 to be exact.
 
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8. Re: Into the Black Apr 5, 2013, 08:39 TangledThorns
 
Ebert was a liberal troll and a hack of a critic. He said the aliens in War Of The Worlds looked like bats... WTF?  
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