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20. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 21, 2013, 09:45 avianflu
 
SONY has not finalized anything about used games:

Google arstechnica Sony UK exec: PS4 used game question “isn’t clarified just yet”
"British boss' pointed non-statement walks Sony back on the controversial issue."

If SONY's goal was to cloud this issue for their consumers, they succeeded.
 
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19. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 21, 2013, 07:34 Beamer
 
swedishfriend wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 23:17:
Reading the full article I must point out that they are talking about being able to keep games up to date in low power states. They are not talking about requiring an internet connection to play games.

Like Steam.

See, that'd be smart. PS3 got nailed for how long it takes to play games, and even with the Xbox it can be frustrating to come home, pop in Borderlands to play with a buddy and spend even 5-10 minutes watching it download, reboot, download, reboot, etc.

So this is welcome. If this is all it is. We'll see, eh?
 
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18. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 21, 2013, 07:01 Redmask
 
swedishfriend wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 23:13:
Redmask wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 21:20:
mag wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 19:13:
Cutter wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 16:37:
All Sony has to do to win is not do that and allow used game sales.

Sony already said that they are going to allow used game sales.

Apparently they walked it back after the event and said no plans are finalized yet. Lame.

Nope. Regarding used games and always on connection they have said they will not do either of those. This was after their event. They cannot stop an individual game from doing these things though.

Source it please, the last time we had this talk someone linked Sony saying that they hadn't finalized anything yet and that the previous guy had spoken out of turn.
 
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17. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 20, 2013, 23:17 swedishfriend
 
Reading the full article I must point out that they are talking about being able to keep games up to date in low power states. They are not talking about requiring an internet connection to play games.  
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16. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 20, 2013, 23:13 swedishfriend
 
Redmask wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 21:20:
mag wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 19:13:
Cutter wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 16:37:
All Sony has to do to win is not do that and allow used game sales.

Sony already said that they are going to allow used game sales.

Apparently they walked it back after the event and said no plans are finalized yet. Lame.

Nope. Regarding used games and always on connection they have said they will not do either of those. This was after their event. They cannot stop an individual game from doing these things though.
 
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15. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 20, 2013, 23:03 swedishfriend
 
Sony has said officially that they will not restrict used games. They have also said that they will not require an always on connection.  
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14. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 20, 2013, 21:20 Redmask
 
mag wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 19:13:
Cutter wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 16:37:
All Sony has to do to win is not do that and allow used game sales.

Sony already said that they are going to allow used game sales.

Apparently they walked it back after the event and said no plans are finalized yet. Lame.
 
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13. Re: More Big Picture Details Mar 20, 2013, 20:19 HorrorScope
 
What is the chance of one doing it and the other not? 0%? Maybe -5%?  
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12. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 20, 2013, 19:13 mag
 
Cutter wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 16:37:
All Sony has to do to win is not do that and allow used game sales.

Sony already said that they are going to allow used game sales.
 
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11. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 20, 2013, 16:51 Cyanotetyphas
 
I wouldn't discount the millions of people in the US who are just going to re-up on Xbox without bothering to look at the changes.

For me, a console represents speed and ease of use. I don't have to worry about an internet connection or drivers. My PC is great and I do enjoy gaming on it but I have an issue I have to work through for every 1 out of 2 games I play. Make the console more complex and you introduce these issues and make me wonder why to bother having two machines that do the same thing.

For me this generation has been sort of straddling that line. On the PS3, you probably need 1-2 hours before you can play an updated copy of MGS4 if you bought a disc. But for most games you can ignore the update forever if you like and the installs are often optional or quick. Also the account restrictions were very simple. Once you download a game to the Ps3, it doesn't call home. I can play the same downloaded game on different user accounts with different network credentials no problem. Can't imagine this will last.

There's been a big focus on UI in tech development these past few years so hopefully they'll keep things simple, but I doubt it.

 
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10. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 20, 2013, 16:39 Beamer
 
Cutter wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 16:37:
All Sony has to do to win is not do that and allow used game sales.

They've said repeatedly they aren't.
We'll see.

But yes, as many of us have said here repeatedly, if one does it and one does not then the war is over.
 
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9. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 20, 2013, 16:37 Cutter
 
All Sony has to do to win is not do that and allow used game sales.
 
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8. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 20, 2013, 15:27 DangerDog
 
where do I plug my mouse and keyboard in?

is that all seeing green eye/orb really what it's going to look like?
 
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7. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 20, 2013, 12:48 sauron
 
Always-on connection, and disallows used games. F*** that. Twice.  
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6. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 20, 2013, 12:01 Verno
 
Just an aside but for fun I did a rough estimate on my households vampire usage a few years ago and it was about $40.00 for an entire year. That included major appliances, dozens of devices, entertainment center, etc. It was amusing because I had gotten myself all worked up prior to that, getting an expensive power strip with remotes and looking into crazy home automation stuff but it turned out to be pretty tame.  
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5. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 20, 2013, 11:42 NegaDeath
 
Always on, always connected, always spying on you. No thanks.

I turn off all my devices at a handy wall switch to prevent vampire power use anyways so there is no such thing as "always on" here.
 
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4. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 20, 2013, 10:29 SpectralMeat
 
avianflu wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 10:20:
Neither will be worth buying imho.
They will still sell like hot ca... I mean CoD
 
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3. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 20, 2013, 10:20 avianflu
 

both new consoles -- when actually released and ready to buy at a store -- will have annoying used-game restrictions of some sort, and some form of annoying mandatory internet-requirement.

Neither will be worth buying imho.
 
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2. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 20, 2013, 10:01 Beamer
 
Always-on? MSFT must be terrified given the whole SC thing.
Rightfully terrified. It's an idea that's several years, at least a whole generation, too soon.

Plus mandatory install? PS got knocked for taking forever to play a game the first time. This will be equally bad. Buy a game, come home from work, sit down, put the game in, walk away, wait, make dinner for yourself, take a nap, come back and be ready to play.
 
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1. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 20, 2013, 09:07 Verno
 
It's fine to have the ability to use your internet connection but to require an always online connection for a console is just too far even with the ubiquity of Wifi. Built-in Kinect, meh. Bluray drive and standard hard drive, about bloody time.  
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