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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 18:42 |
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peteham wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 18:36: And as far as the ending goes, it was every bit as lame as Mass Effect's. The only reason one created an uproar and the other didn't, is that at least in AC's case, there was never the expectation of being able to affect anything. That's part of it, but there's a much, MUCH bigger issue there that you're ignoring.
Nobody gave two shits about Desmond. (spoiler) So him dying at the end doesn't bother anybody in the slightest.
People who loved Mass Effect CARED about what would happen to Shepard, and to Garrus, and to Wrex, and to Tali, and to Liara, etc. And in the initial version, they got nothing. No closure, zilch. (it's not that much better in the Extended Cut. One picture per character, but it's more than there was initially.)
Had I given two shits about Desmond, the ending would have pissed me off far more than it did. As it is, I was more like "wow, really? That's how you end it after making me sit through this horseshit for FIVE fucking games??"
Really the only thing that pissed me off was that I wasn't even offered the choice. The cutscene made the choice for me.
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 18:36 |
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Watter wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 16:10:
NegaDeath wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 15:51: I never liked the Desmond stuff. I'm too much of a nerd to get past the idea that they have a machine that lets you perfectly remember and experience what your ancestor had for supper on a Tuesday centuries ago. Blah blah suspension of disbelief yada yada. Its wrong! I'm totally in that camp as well. I'd have been happier with the series if the Desmond aspect was completely gone. I think it might have even been more compelling to have progressively built up the history and mystery of the templar and assassin factions as the series progress through the ages rather than starting with the contemporary time as they did. Heh I'm more or less the opposite of that. There were times during Brotherhood and Revelations in particular, where I really wanted to get on with the "now" story rather than going back in the Animus. Sadly, Desmond's screentime wasn't that well handled, and the missions in AC3 were a joke. The Desmond-bits I enjoyed the most through the whole series were really the conversations in AC1, and running around empty Monteriggioni at night in AC2 and Brotherhood. Great atmosphere and music..
As for my ordering of the games, it goes something like this:
AC2 . . AC2: Brotherhood AC2: Revelations AC1 AC3
I know I can't really objectively defend AC3's position behind AC1 there, but yeah, it really felt regressive. The entire game has a certain feel of being made by different ubisoft branches, then crudely stitched together in the name of boxticking. Boxticking also describes the overall gameplay. There is so much filler and so little actual content, it's ridiculous. In many ways it feels like a return to the investigation missions you had to undertake in AC1 before you could go on with the story. But at least AC1 had the benefit of being new, as well as reasonably innovative/fresh when it first came out, even though it fell far short of its potential and original vision. Does anyone remember the early AC1 trailers, that made a big deal about how you could distract guards by throwing a corpse into the street etc? That whole part of the game seems to have disappeared more and more with every game, to the point where in AC3, I just walked through the front door and killed everything, pressing counterattack to win all the way... It didn't help that any time you tried to be sneaky, move around a road block or whatever, the game would slap you in the face with an invisible wall (RETURN TO MISSION AREA!!!!) or STAY IN RANGE OF TARGET!!11 or CONNOR DIDN'T KILL LIVESTOCK. Gah. Speaking of Connor, he has to be the most boring main characters ever. Whether that's the fault of the writers or the voice actor, I'm not entirely sure. Collaborative effort, perhaps. And as far as the ending goes, it was every bit as lame as Mass Effect's. The only reason one created an uproar and the other didn't, is that at least in AC's case, there was never the expectation of being able to affect anything. |
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 16:10 |
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NegaDeath wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 15:51: I never liked the Desmond stuff. I'm too much of a nerd to get past the idea that they have a machine that lets you perfectly remember and experience what your ancestor had for supper on a Tuesday centuries ago. Blah blah suspension of disbelief yada yada. Its wrong! I'm totally in that camp as well. I'd have been happier with the series if the Desmond aspect was completely gone. I think it might have even been more compelling to have progressively built up the history and mystery of the templar and assassin factions as the series progress through the ages rather than starting with the contemporary time as they did. |
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 16:05 |
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MajorD wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 15:46:
Creston wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 12:56:
MajorD wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 11:15:
Creston wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 10:52: When it started downloading a 2 frikking GIG update, I figured that was the DLC. But nope, it's just a "patch"...
Creston I figured I'd try another 3rd person game again, so I picked-up Assassin’s Creed for about $7 on Amazon. I've enjoyed for a while, but it seemed to become very repetitive. So, that leads me to my question of AC3; is it any good, or pretty much the same repetition?
The first AC is really repetitive, yeah. The setting is cool, but it's all so samey samey. AC3 isn't really repetitive, as you're doing a ton of different things, but it's chock full of kinda pointless side-stuff.
AC2 is (imo) the best one in the series, and if you like it, Brotherhood is an excellent continuation.
I'd rank them as follows:
AC2 AC: Brotherhood AC3 AC: Revelation AC1
Creston Excellent! Thanks for the information, I appreciate it.
Cheers, MD I haven't played ac3 yet but I'm some ways through revelation and I totally agree with the ranking. For such a solid engine and pretty enjoyable basic game systems it blows my mind why these games have so much darn padding. They would be EXCELLENT with just a bit less annoying fluff. As is they are merely mediocre to good. |
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 15:51 |
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Verno wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 15:04: AC3 is weird, it's actually regressive in some ways, some of the features and things fixed or optimized in Brotherhood/Revelations are annoying again in 3. I feel like the Desmond framing story was always something weighing down the series unnecessarily too, they could have come up with a simpler way to insert people into ancient time periods. I never liked the Desmond stuff. I'm too much of a nerd to get past the idea that they have a machine that lets you perfectly remember and experience what your ancestor had for supper on a Tuesday centuries ago. Blah blah suspension of disbelief yada yada. Its wrong! |
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 15:46 |
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Creston wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 12:56:
MajorD wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 11:15:
Creston wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 10:52: When it started downloading a 2 frikking GIG update, I figured that was the DLC. But nope, it's just a "patch"...
Creston I figured I'd try another 3rd person game again, so I picked-up Assassin’s Creed for about $7 on Amazon. I've enjoyed for a while, but it seemed to become very repetitive. So, that leads me to my question of AC3; is it any good, or pretty much the same repetition?
The first AC is really repetitive, yeah. The setting is cool, but it's all so samey samey. AC3 isn't really repetitive, as you're doing a ton of different things, but it's chock full of kinda pointless side-stuff.
AC2 is (imo) the best one in the series, and if you like it, Brotherhood is an excellent continuation.
I'd rank them as follows:
AC2 AC: Brotherhood AC3 AC: Revelation AC1
Creston Excellent! Thanks for the information, I appreciate it.
Cheers, MD |
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 15:04 |
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Creston wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 10:52: When it started downloading a 2 frikking GIG update, I figured that was the DLC. But nope, it's just a "patch"...
Creston WTF? 2GB? |
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 15:04 |
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The Half Elf wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 14:10:
PHJF wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 11:23: Assassin's Creed 2 is light years better than Assassin's Creed. What PHJF said. The get progressively better with exception of AC3 which is somewhere between AC 1 and 2 for me. AC3 is weird, it's actually regressive in some ways, some of the features and things fixed or optimized in Brotherhood/Revelations are annoying again in 3. I feel like the Desmond framing story was always something weighing down the series unnecessarily too, they could have come up with a simpler way to insert people into ancient time periods.
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 14:10 |
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PHJF wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 11:23: Assassin's Creed 2 is light years better than Assassin's Creed. What PHJF said. The get progressively better with exception of AC3 which is somewhere between AC 1 and 2 for me. |
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 13:08 |
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| Yikes, another game ubsoft forces punkbuster into. |
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 12:56 |
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MajorD wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 11:15:
Creston wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 10:52: When it started downloading a 2 frikking GIG update, I figured that was the DLC. But nope, it's just a "patch"...
Creston I figured I'd try another 3rd person game again, so I picked-up Assassin’s Creed for about $7 on Amazon. I've enjoyed for a while, but it seemed to become very repetitive. So, that leads me to my question of AC3; is it any good, or pretty much the same repetition?
The first AC is really repetitive, yeah. The setting is cool, but it's all so samey samey. AC3 isn't really repetitive, as you're doing a ton of different things, but it's chock full of kinda pointless side-stuff.
AC2 is (imo) the best one in the series, and if you like it, Brotherhood is an excellent continuation.
I'd rank them as follows:
AC2 AC: Brotherhood AC3 AC: Revelation AC1
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 12:49 |
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Good to know. Thanks for all the feedback folks.
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 11:25 |
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Yep, I didn't like the original AC but loved all the subsequent ones. |
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 11:23 |
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MajorD wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 11:15: I figured I'd try another 3rd person game again, so I picked-up Assassin’s Creed for about $7 on Amazon. I've enjoyed for a while, but it seemed to become very repetitive. So, that leads me to my question of AC3; is it any good, or pretty much the same repetition? Assassins Creed? As in the first one? Everyone pretty much agrees with your assessment of that one, Assassins Creed 2 was a huge improvement when it comes to repetition and subsequent games carried that on. Its one of the best sequels ever made. If you care about the story you might want to do AC2, Brotherhood and Revelations first. |
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 11:23 |
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| Assassin's Creed 2 is light years better than Assassin's Creed. |
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 11:15 |
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Creston wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 10:52: When it started downloading a 2 frikking GIG update, I figured that was the DLC. But nope, it's just a "patch"...
Creston I figured I'd try another 3rd person game again, so I picked-up Assassin’s Creed for about $7 on Amazon. I've enjoyed for a while, but it seemed to become very repetitive. So, that leads me to my question of AC3; is it any good, or pretty much the same repetition?
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 11:00 |
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eRe4s3r wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 10:56:
Fixed a bug preventing the creation of new Uplay accounts That's not a bug, that's a feature... *duck* |
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 10:56 |
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Fixed a bug preventing the creation of new Uplay accounts That's not a bug, that's a feature... *duck* |
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Re: Assassin's Creed 3 Patched |
Feb 15, 2013, 10:52 |
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When it started downloading a 2 frikking GIG update, I figured that was the DLC. But nope, it's just a "patch"...
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