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14. Re: Evening Consolidation Feb 15, 2013, 18:55 Creston
 
InBlack wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 04:02:
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13. Re: Evening Consolidation Feb 15, 2013, 10:55 Beamer
 
Ecthelion wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 08:05:
PropheT wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 00:48:
mag wrote on Feb 14, 2013, 21:57:
Still better than the 360 ones!

The 360 triggers are just about perfect.

So is the offset stick design that I see they didn't go with on the PS4 controller again.
I'm not being a troll; I'm genuinely curious. Why do people think sticks that aren't aligned are actually better?

When I'm holding a controller, aligned thumb sticks just feel natural to me. I've never owned a Xbox or 360, but every PC gamepad I've used has thumbs sticks set up roughly like the Dual Shock's ones.

It's not assymetrical that matters, it's placement. Having your thumbs up higher, closer to the fingers than to each other, is a more natural placement.

The dual shock put the sticks wherever they fit, and 20 years later Sony still uses that.
The Xbox put one stick where it's most comfortable, expecting players to use it more than they use the dpad. This was right, but they possibly should have moved the other stick on the 360 (I see the debate)
The WiiU Pro controller, or whatever, put them both in the place where they're most useful for an FPS game
 
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12. Re: Evening Consolidation Feb 15, 2013, 10:54 Verno
 
NegaDeath wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 10:45:
I'd still like to see developers take some inspiration from the Gamecube controller. I know its easy to rag on but I thought the shaped face buttons were innovative. I still occasionally have to glance down to see which color button is where on a gamepad, with the Gamecube pad you could tell simply by touch. The SNES pad sorta had that too with some buttons being concave and some convex. I also liked its triggers with the secondary click at the bottom. Combine the 360 controllers physical dimensions and layout with the Gamecube face buttons and triggers and the PS3's d-pad and we'd have the ultimate controller. Imo.

I always thought the Wavebird was the best controller ever designed, so comfortable and perfect form function.
 
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11. Re: Evening Consolidation Feb 15, 2013, 10:53 Beamer
 
Verno wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 08:59:
I just want less mushy triggers and shorter thumbsticks, the position is fine to me. A bit more heft and easily removable batteries would be nice too.

Shorter thumbsticks?

No way, longer! I actually modded my 360 for longer sticks.
 
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10. Re: Evening Consolidation Feb 15, 2013, 10:45 NegaDeath
 
I'd still like to see developers take some inspiration from the Gamecube controller. I know its easy to rag on but I thought the shaped face buttons were innovative. I still occasionally have to glance down to see which color button is where on a gamepad, with the Gamecube pad you could tell simply by touch. The SNES pad sorta had that too with some buttons being concave and some convex. I also liked its triggers with the secondary click at the bottom. Combine the 360 controllers physical dimensions and layout with the Gamecube face buttons and triggers and the PS3's d-pad and we'd have the ultimate controller. Imo.  
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9. Re: Evening Consolidation Feb 15, 2013, 08:59 Verno
 
I just want less mushy triggers and shorter thumbsticks, the position is fine to me. A bit more heft and easily removable batteries would be nice too.  
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8. Re: Evening Consolidation Feb 15, 2013, 08:05 Ecthelion
 
PropheT wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 00:48:
mag wrote on Feb 14, 2013, 21:57:
Still better than the 360 ones!

The 360 triggers are just about perfect.

So is the offset stick design that I see they didn't go with on the PS4 controller again.
I'm not being a troll; I'm genuinely curious. Why do people think sticks that aren't aligned are actually better?

When I'm holding a controller, aligned thumb sticks just feel natural to me. I've never owned a Xbox or 360, but every PC gamepad I've used has thumbs sticks set up roughly like the Dual Shock's ones.
 
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7. Re: Evening Consolidation Feb 15, 2013, 07:32 Beamer
 
PropheT wrote on Feb 15, 2013, 00:48:
mag wrote on Feb 14, 2013, 21:57:
Still better than the 360 ones!

The 360 triggers are just about perfect.

So is the offset stick design that I see they didn't go with on the PS4 controller again.

Actually Nintendo got it right.
Turn your hands sideways like you're holding a controller. Your thumbs automatically go high. That's where the most commonly used input should be.

These days the most commonly used input is probably the sticks. So the sticks should be high. I can see an argument for the buttons, but Sony is just being gigantic asses for keeping the dpad there, too.
 
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6. Re: Evening Consolidation Feb 15, 2013, 04:02 InBlack
 
Still gets eaten by keyboard and mouse. Everytime!

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5. Re: Evening Consolidation Feb 15, 2013, 02:56 Fantaz
 
I like mostly everything in this prototype, except for the glowing PS Move crap on the back.

Please let motion controls be a dying fad of last generation!

It looks like they're making the controller a swiss army knife, stuffing anything they can save for an LCD screen.
 
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4. Re: Evening Consolidation Feb 15, 2013, 00:48 PropheT
 
mag wrote on Feb 14, 2013, 21:57:
Still better than the 360 ones!

The 360 triggers are just about perfect.

So is the offset stick design that I see they didn't go with on the PS4 controller again.
 
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3. Re: Evening Consolidation Feb 14, 2013, 22:34 Redmask
 
Better thumbsticks and looks like a meatier design, perfect. The triggers could be fine, its hard to tell with the angle.  
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2. Re: Evening Consolidation Feb 14, 2013, 21:57 mag
 
Tumbler wrote on Feb 14, 2013, 20:56:
Oh joy, see those fucking "triggers". You SEE THOSE!?

I could give a fuck about everything else there but you're going to ship those weird rounded ball sack simulators again!? Are you fucking kidding me!?

Still better than the 360 ones!
 
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1. Re: Evening Consolidation Feb 14, 2013, 20:56 Tumbler
 
Oh joy, see those fucking "triggers". You SEE THOSE!?

I could give a fuck about everything else there but you're going to ship those weird rounded ball sack simulators again!? Are you fucking kidding me!?
 
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