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29. Re: etc. Feb 12, 2013, 19:08 nin
 

I thought the same thing at first.

 
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28. Re: etc. Feb 12, 2013, 18:14 jdreyer
 
nin wrote on Feb 12, 2013, 13:38:
jdreyer wrote on Feb 12, 2013, 12:31:
The Half Elf wrote on Feb 11, 2013, 16:09:
Why do you think Disney is going the same route?



Disney is creating Disney Infinity, which is a ripoff of Skylanders.

I think that was his point. I was originally going to say the same thing, but I think he meant it in the sense of "why do you think disney is so quick to hop on that money train".


Heh, that's the problem with text, no nuance. I read it straight up, he wrote it as rhetorical.

 
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27. Re: etc. Feb 12, 2013, 13:38 nin
 
jdreyer wrote on Feb 12, 2013, 12:31:
The Half Elf wrote on Feb 11, 2013, 16:09:
Why do you think Disney is going the same route?



Disney is creating Disney Infinity, which is a ripoff of Skylanders.

I think that was his point. I was originally going to say the same thing, but I think he meant it in the sense of "why do you think disney is so quick to hop on that money train".

 
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26. Re: etc. Feb 12, 2013, 12:31 jdreyer
 
The Half Elf wrote on Feb 11, 2013, 16:09:
Why do you think Disney is going the same route?



Disney is creating Disney Infinity, which is a ripoff of Skylanders.
 
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25. Re: etc. Feb 11, 2013, 16:42 Sir Graves
 
Oculus Rift looks cool.  
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24. Re: etc. Feb 11, 2013, 16:09 The Half Elf
 
Why do you think Disney is going the same route?


 
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23. Re: etc. Feb 11, 2013, 14:48 Mr. Tact
 
jdreyer wrote on Feb 11, 2013, 14:18:
Micronauts, Legos, & Star Wars action figures.
I'm a bit too old for Star Wars action figures. Never had Legos, did have some wooden "building" blocks I played with a bunch (many shapes, not just cubes) -- oh, I did have an Erector Set, that was definitely cool. Micronauts? Wiki search... oh, same time frame was Star Wars... yeah, no.
 
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22. Re: etc. Feb 11, 2013, 14:23 Raptor
 
Btw, for region blocked folks this should be a working link to Jimmy Fallon's clip on Oculus Rift, or in fact the entire episode:
http://vidbull.com/0x8j397ggy9t.html

 
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21. Re: etc. Feb 11, 2013, 14:18 jdreyer
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Feb 11, 2013, 11:49:
Thinking back to when I was 8-10... I was trying to recall what I was hyped about then. But you know what, I don't think I was hyped about anything. Granted video games didn't exist yet, but I remember just going outside and playing football, tag, "army", whatever. Pretty sure I wasn't obsessed with anything. Was I a weird kid or is it a generational thing?

Oh, and until now I had never heard of Skylanders either.

Micronauts, Legos, & Star Wars action figures.
 
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20. Re: etc. Feb 11, 2013, 14:15 nin
 
We do have $1000s of Legos

You're officially a good parent! Once can never have too many legos...

 
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19. Re: etc. Feb 11, 2013, 14:14 jdreyer
 
Verno wrote on Feb 11, 2013, 09:05:
Skylanders is the franchise that marketing built, it's unreal just how powerful it is these days.

Since I don't have cable, my kids never see commercials and have no idea what Skylanders is. We do have $1000s of Legos, so I guess the money gets spent regardless.
 
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18. Re: etc. Feb 11, 2013, 14:05 Orogogus
 
avianflu wrote on Feb 11, 2013, 12:49:
it is bit sad though that Toys for Bob made some great games years ago and then this is what they are making now.

They made 2 -- Star Control I & II -- and the Horde was reasonably entertaining, but it looks like 2000-2008 was a big slump for them, filled with Disney and skateboarding games.
 
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17. Re: etc. Feb 11, 2013, 12:51 Beamer
 
avianflu wrote on Feb 11, 2013, 12:49:
it is bit sad though that Toys for Bob made some great games years ago and then this is what they are making now.

A well reviewed game that sells monstrous amounts (the annual reports specifically cite this as carrying the PC division), is loved by millions of kids, is launching a franchise and TV show, is probably a blast to make, and is probably turning them all into millionaires?

Poor them!
 
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16. Re: etc. Feb 11, 2013, 12:49 avianflu
 
it is bit sad though that Toys for Bob made some great games years ago and then this is what they are making now.  
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15. Re: etc. Feb 11, 2013, 12:02 sauron
 
Beamer wrote on Feb 11, 2013, 10:37:
Yup.

I think this is less "how can we rip kids off as much as possible" (see: Beanie Babies, pogs) and more "how can I make something that would have blown my 8-10 year old mind?" (see: Pokemon.)

That doesn't mean clever marketing isn't part of it, but if the people are making something to sell a lot it will fail. Kids can sense that. It has to legitimately be fun and something of a labor of love.

Agree strongly. My kids LOVE this game, they even saved up the money to buy the sequel themselves (although I eventually bought it for them for Xmas). They are 7 and 9, both girls.

Like Pokemon, the appeal is across a broad age range and both genders. Genius.
 
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14. Re: etc. Feb 11, 2013, 11:49 Mr. Tact
 
Thinking back to when I was 8-10... I was trying to recall what I was hyped about then. But you know what, I don't think I was hyped about anything. Granted video games didn't exist yet, but I remember just going outside and playing football, tag, "army", whatever. Pretty sure I wasn't obsessed with anything. Was I a weird kid or is it a generational thing?

Oh, and until now I had never heard of Skylanders either.
 
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13. Re: etc. Feb 11, 2013, 11:27 Orphic Resonance
 
Cutter wrote on Feb 11, 2013, 11:07:
Orphic Resonance wrote on Feb 11, 2013, 10:29:
InBlack wrote on Feb 11, 2013, 10:15:
Still, the point remains good psychology translates into a perfect marketing opportunity.

marketing is applied psychology

why do you think people set prices at 99 rather than 100?

It's jive.


no, its because 99 looks like a smaller number than 100 and people are still impulsive animals - its a marketing trick that has become cliche and rote, but its still a marketing trick.. if they really thought it was pointless, nobody would still be doing it

just because you play at not being an ape, it does not mean you are not an ape

just because you pretend to know whats going on, does not mean that you do
 
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12. Re: etc. Feb 11, 2013, 11:07 Cutter
 
Orphic Resonance wrote on Feb 11, 2013, 10:29:
InBlack wrote on Feb 11, 2013, 10:15:
Still, the point remains good psychology translates into a perfect marketing opportunity.

marketing is applied psychology

why do you think people set prices at 99 rather than 100?

It's jive. Plenty of studies have shown people just round up anyway. It's why most restos don't bother with it anymore and just call it a round number instead.

However, it is fascinating how these thing gain traction. Remember stuff back in the day like the madness around trying to get Cabbage Patch Kids or Tickle Me Elmos at Xmas duing the height of their popularity?
 
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11. Re: etc. Feb 11, 2013, 10:37 Beamer
 
Yup.

I think this is less "how can we rip kids off as much as possible" (see: Beanie Babies, pogs) and more "how can I make something that would have blown my 8-10 year old mind?" (see: Pokemon.)

That doesn't mean clever marketing isn't part of it, but if the people are making something to sell a lot it will fail. Kids can sense that. It has to legitimately be fun and something of a labor of love.
 
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10. Re: etc. Feb 11, 2013, 10:32 Jivaro
 
I was just in a Best Buy that had an XBOX 360 display with a demo of Skylanders. There were kids everywhere, parents trying to pull them away....crazy. Looking at the video and the game demo though, if I was a kid in the target age, I would be all over that stuff. My toys in my video games? Sign me up. If all my GI JOE or Tranformers could have been done like that...holy crap that would have blown my 8-10 year old mind.  
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