Mad Max RW wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 17:49:

ExGemini wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 17:39:

ASeven wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 17:33:
Game leaked on consoles a day ago. Word is it's a very average FPS game, not worthy of the name it carries.

... And then there are people who still rages for the PC piracy

Worse. Sega will blame piracy as well as convince themselves Aliens isn't a viable property. Consider the unannounced game by Creative Assembly canceled if A:CM bombs. They already canceled Obsidian's Aliens: Crucible.

ExGemini wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 17:39:

ASeven wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 17:33:
Game leaked on consoles a day ago. Word is it's a very average FPS game, not worthy of the name it carries.

... And then there are people who still rages for the PC piracy

Kevin Lowe wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 10:36:

El Pit wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 10:03:
I can wait for the complete game (nowadays called "Ultimate Edition" or "Game of the Year Edition") to drop down to $20. That will be my message to nickel and dime EA.

The game is published by Sega. What does EA have to do with this?

ExGemini wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 17:39:

ASeven wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 17:33:
Game leaked on consoles a day ago. Word is it's a very average FPS game, not worthy of the name it carries.

... And then there are people who still rages for the PC piracy

ASeven wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 17:33:
Game leaked on consoles a day ago. Word is it's a very average FPS game, not worthy of the name it carries.

Trevellian wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 16:55:

Whats the issue?

Darks wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 16:48:

ExGemini wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 16:39:

fuck off Gemini!!!

There there now ... did you forget to take you pills today mr?

Nope, only my bug spray to kill annoying little pricks like you.

Mad Max RW wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 16:35:

Trevellian wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 16:16:
Honestly, FFS. I haven't heard 1 goddamn thing about "Horde Mode" Until today.

You must have missed the recent mentions at IGN, Destructoid, and Game Informer. A direct quote: "Survival pits four Colonial Marines against unrelenting waves of xenomorphs. It's possibly the best implementation of a horde-like mode we've seen in a long time."

Now one of two things happened. Either the horde mode existed as part of the game and was cut in the last few months to be sold as DLC. Or every website and magazine that reported on it lied about it ever existing in the first place. In addition Sega and Gearbox never bothered to correct them.

fuck off Gemini!!!

Trevellian wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 16:16:
Honestly, FFS. I haven't heard 1 goddamn thing about "Horde Mode" Until today.

Mad Max RW wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 13:31:
No dedicated server support at launch: CHECK
Pre-release DLC: CHECK
Multiplayer DLC: CHECK
Cut skirmish mode to be sold as DLC 1 month later: CHECK

So...can someone explain to me how this isn't following the same path as AvP3? Remember that game? The one Sega officially dropped support for 6 months after launch.
Multiplayer DLC for a game like this only fractures the already small playerbase. It's suicide.

ACM, much like AvP3, will be dead on arrival.

Verno wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 10:08:

Darks wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 09:44:

The only horse shit here is yours and many others attitude towards a game you haven’t even played yet.

Err, they think it doesn't look good, that's not an attitude, it's just an observation and opinion. You're just angry because you like it and others don't. Your comments works both ways too, you seem awfully defensive about a game you haven't spent much time with either.

Mad Max RW wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 15:51:

Beamer wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 13:56:
But it isn't content withheld from the initial release...

In this case it was cut to be sold separately. There are dozens of previews explicitly talking about the horde mode (4 marine players vs waves of increasingly difficult computer controlled aliens) and how great it is long before there was any mention of DLC.

Beamer wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 13:56:
But it isn't content withheld from the initial release...

Beamer wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 13:56:

MajorD wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 13:49:

Beamer wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 13:29:

SpectralMeat wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 11:53:

MajorD wrote on Feb 7, 2013, 11:48:
Pushing DLC before the game has even been released is a BS move IMO, and is an immediate turn-off.

Same way I feel about this. DLC should never be a selling point for any games, especially not before release.

Why?
We all know it's probably coming, and DLC is a sign of post-launch support. It's nice to see that a publisher is planning extensive post-launch support.

Some people bitch that it's stuff cut from the game for the sole purpose of monetizing it, but that's less true with Gearbox than other companies (for whom its usually also not true), as Gearbox tends to outsource their DLC.

I disagree. I don't look at it as 'Post-Launch Support' at all; I look at it as an early money grab for a game that hasn't even been released/reviewed yet. It is obviously (or most likely) content that has already been developed, but not included with the initial release of the game so they can utilize it for DLC, which is fine, but let's see if the game is worthy of the DLC that you're trying sell to us before the initial release of the game itself.

But it isn't content withheld from the initial release, and it is a good indicator of postlaunch support. Borderlands 2 has had a ton of DLC. Borderlands 2 has had a ton of postlaunch support.

The DLC isn't anything that would have made sense in the initial release and it was all created by a third party, not by Gearbox itself.

The whole "they developed it already and withheld it just to sell it!" is ridiculous paranoia. I am not saying it hasn't happened, but it isn't common. It's incredibly rare, actually. Sometimes DLC is something that was planned to be in the game, but got cut for time issues. That it comes back is a nice perk.

And, again, this is coming from a guy that's really only bought DLC for Fallout 3, RDR (that was more an expansion), and now BL2. I'm not a real fan, as it's rare that a game leaves me wanting more. But it's ridiculous to claim it's stuff left back from the initial release just to sell.
Especially in Gearbox' case, when it is not only a different team working on it but an entirely different company.