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Crysis 3 Crisis Averted

The Terms of Service for the new Crysis 3 open beta includes language about banning players for not reporting bugs, recalling the recently quelled controversy over the SimCity beta ToS threating a mab from all EA games for failure to report bugs. This new End-User License Agreement issue apparently has the same resolution as the previous one, as games.on.net notes a tweet explaining: "We did - it was baked into the Beta before we realized it had the 'Bug Ban' clause. We aren't enforcing that." They also link a follow-up tweet saying: "We'll be releasing a blog post about that soon, but for now rest assured we aren't banning players for finding bugs." So we now know why EULAs and ToSes are so lengthy: Even the people making the games can't be bothered to read the crap they let their lawyers stuff into them.

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26. Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted Jan 30, 2013, 14:54 Beamer
 
Creston wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 14:39:
Beamer wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 13:35:
But EA didn't ban anyone, did they?

Yes, they did. They banned several people from their forum (undoubtedly for good cause), and in doing so caused these people to lose access to all/some (reports on that were sketchy) their games through Origin.

When the media (the MEDIA, of all things!) bitched at EA about it, they tried to play it off by saying "oh, that's actually just a bug, hehe, no foul play here!" even though their fucking EULA specifically stated that it would happen, for which people bitched at EA (and mongrels defended EA for it.)

It took EA MONTHS to fix this "bug."

It's lawyers being lawyers. Nothing more.

No, it is NOT just "lawyers being lawyers." Again, this has ALREADY FUCKING HAPPENED with EA. It baffles me how people keep putting their fingers in their ears, sing LALALALALAALLA really loudly, and pretend like there's nothing going on.

From RPS: A number of people had contacted us to say that their forum bans (both justified and mystifying) were locking them out of their online gaming, and that their attempts to find out why from EAs customer support were met with silence or nonsense. Ignoring the question of the legality of preventing access to a purchased product (something Im looking into), the confusion really lay in EAs previous assurances that they would not be doing this after the error in March

The error they referred to was the EULA that said "If we ban you from the forum, you lose all your access to your games!" People cried out about it, EA did the 'tut tut, we'll never do that' routine, idiots defended EA and played the "Oh, you guys are always after poor, misunderstood EA" bullshit card, and then EA did that exact fucking thing.

But hey, keep saying that it's crazy, and that EA won't do that, even though, you know, they actually have a confirmed fucking history of doing it. Ostrich Policy works just fine for our politicians, no reason it can't work here either, right?

Creston

I don't get what banning people on the forum has to do with banning people for not reporting bugs.

Or, perhaps, I don't get how you're applying what I'm saying to this situation here.

EA banning people for forum posts: indicates EA has a shitty system with their accounts tied together in dumb ways
Companies now threatening in the EULA to ban for not reporting bugs: overzealous attorneys

Heck, the forum banning wasn't even a ToS thing. EA was very clear that this was an intended thing.

Like I'm saying, we are right to push back on this. But just understand where it comes from.
 
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