Crysis 3 Crisis Averted

[Jan 30, 2013, 09:57 am ET] - Share - Viewing Comments

The Terms of Service for the new Crysis 3 open beta includes language about banning players for not reporting bugs, recalling the recently quelled controversy over the SimCity beta ToS threating a mab from all EA games for failure to report bugs. This new End-User License Agreement issue apparently has the same resolution as the previous one, as games.on.net notes a tweet explaining: "We did - it was baked into the Beta before we realized it had the 'Bug Ban' clause. We aren't enforcing that." They also link a follow-up tweet saying: "We'll be releasing a blog post about that soon, but for now rest assured we aren't banning players for finding bugs." So we now know why EULAs and ToSes are so lengthy: Even the people making the games can't be bothered to read the crap they let their lawyers stuff into them.

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Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted

Jan 30, 2013, 14:11

Beamer

Spektr wrote on Jan 30, 2013, 13:57:
Jee getting banned from EA games for not reporting a bug.. it's so absurd that I shouldn't even comment it. I am merely stating the obvious that banning people for no real reason represents less sales and more piracy. And that it's nearly impossible to prove that a player didn't report a bug and even more so detect the players who don't report bugs...

It's nearly impossible, true. But imagine you're running the beta test of an RPG, and there's a glitch that gives people the power to kill other characters with a certain keystroke. You know one group discovered this and was running around doing it to other people for an hour. You ban all the people doing this, rightfully. Half of them complain, saying they were just in a party with people using the exploit, not using it themselves.

It's easy to tell them they are banned for not reporting those players. And no one should care - these people deserve to be banned, but you just extinguished the argument they'd repeatedly make.

I wish I had the link, but there's an Xbox help forum somewhere full of people claiming they were unfairly banned for hacking when they did no such thing. What's amazing is that half of them have avatars with unnatural hair color or skin color. Those are only possible via hacking. So even though it's obvious from their profile that they hacked, they repeatedly claim they didn't.
People that get caught hacking rarely go "ok, you got me," instead they deny as vehemently and ridiculously as you could imagine.

It doesn't excuse having language this strict in the ToS, but it's why this language shows up.




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	1.	Jan 30, 09:00	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	nin
	4.	Jan 30, 09:42	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Beamer
	6.	Jan 30, 09:53	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	InBlack
	7.	Jan 30, 10:11	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Beamer
	14.	Jan 30, 12:49	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	AngelicPenguin
	16.	Jan 30, 13:30	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	NKD
	9.	Jan 30, 10:17	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	RollinThundr
	10.	Jan 30, 10:45	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	InBlack
	12.	Jan 30, 11:12	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Verno
	2.	Jan 30, 09:17	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	dj LiTh
	3.	Jan 30, 09:42	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Kajetan
	5.	Jan 30, 09:46	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Beamer
	8.	Jan 30, 10:15	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Kajetan
	11.	Jan 30, 10:56	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Creston
	13.	Jan 30, 11:50	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	nin
	17.	Jan 30, 13:33	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Beamer
	19.	Jan 30, 13:35	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Beamer
	24.	Jan 30, 14:39	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Creston
	26.	Jan 30, 14:54	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Beamer
	29.	Jan 30, 14:59	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Creston
	42.	Jan 30, 16:55	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Beamer
	43.	Jan 30, 17:33	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Creston
	44.	Jan 30, 18:05	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Beamer
	45.	Jan 30, 18:48	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Prez
	25.	Jan 30, 14:49	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	jdreyer
	31.	Jan 30, 15:01	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Creston
	32.	Jan 30, 15:02	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Flatline
	33.	Jan 30, 15:03	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Verno
	49.	Jan 31, 05:56	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Bopper
	15.	Jan 30, 13:27	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Tumbler
	18.	Jan 30, 13:33	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Verno
	20.	Jan 30, 13:36	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Beamer
	21.	Jan 30, 13:57	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Spektr
>>	22.	Jan 30, 14:11	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Beamer
	23.	Jan 30, 14:32	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	RollinThundr
	27.	Jan 30, 14:56	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Verno
	28.	Jan 30, 14:58	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	RollinThundr
	30.	Jan 30, 15:01	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Verno
	35.	Jan 30, 15:18	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	RollinThundr
	36.	Jan 30, 15:23	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Verno
	37.	Jan 30, 15:31	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	RollinThundr
	38.	Jan 30, 15:41	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Verno
	39.	Jan 30, 15:48	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	RollinThundr
	40.	Jan 30, 15:57	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Verno
	34.	Jan 30, 15:14	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	DangerDog
	41.	Jan 30, 16:52	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Beelzebud
	46.	Jan 30, 21:08	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Krizzen
	47.	Jan 30, 22:54	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Beamer
	48.	Jan 31, 02:34	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	eRe4s3r
	50.	Jan 31, 07:16	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Redmask
	51.	Jan 31, 07:33	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	InBlack
	52.	Jan 31, 09:25	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	eRe4s3r
	53.	Jan 31, 09:52	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Verno
	54.	Jan 31, 11:18	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	eRe4s3r
	55.	Jan 31, 11:29	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Creston
	56.	Jan 31, 11:44	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	eRe4s3r
	57.	Jan 31, 12:58	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Creston
	58.	Jan 31, 13:39	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	Verno
	59.	Feb 1, 02:03	Re: Crysis 3 Crisis Averted	eRe4s3r