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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 14:17 |
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nin wrote on Jan 20, 2013, 14:16: Sadly, that's totally plausible. I was being totally serious
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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 14:16 |
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Dades wrote on Jan 20, 2013, 14:14: Diablo 3 was a beta test for Titans RMAH, Jay Wilson is being move there to apply the important lessons they learned about monetizing gamers.
- DADES - This is a signature of my name, enjoy!
Sadly, that's totally plausible.
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 14:14 |
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Diablo 3 was a beta test for Titans RMAH, Jay Wilson is being move there to apply the important lessons they learned about monetizing gamers.
Maybe Chris Metzen will join him and we can again have a Blizzard game without a plot ripped from an episode of He-Man.
- DADES - This is a signature of my name, enjoy! |
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Re: More Big Picture Details |
Jan 20, 2013, 13:36 |
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HorrorScope wrote on Jan 20, 2013, 13:22: I simply couldn't keep playing a shallow game like an ARPG over and over again. MMO's even have more hooks to keep one playing longer. I also wouldn't spend more then a $25 on a top/down ARPG game, it's old-school, small team material now. Bring that up into a nice 3rd person perspective, with the same over the top action, now you can get my fifty. But when it's Blizzard... For me, Torchlight 2 was the right kind of game for the right kind of price. |
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Re: More Big Picture Details |
Jan 20, 2013, 13:22 |
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| I simply couldn't keep playing a shallow game like an ARPG over and over again. MMO's even have more hooks to keep one playing longer. I also wouldn't spend more then a $25 on a top/down ARPG game, it's old-school, small team material now. Bring that up into a nice 3rd person perspective, with the same over the top action, now you can get my fifty. But when it's Blizzard... |
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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 12:48 |
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| These poor victims are being unfairly singled out by the fans who made them millionaires. Why should developers of their caliber be forced to take criticism and learn from their mistakes? They're rich so that automatically makes them right. |
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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 12:38 |
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Speaking of LOD I am really hoping that the expansion will fix a lot of the problems with D3. It will never make the game have an offline mode, but perhaps they can learn from what did not work in the original and come up with a game that is pleasant to spend time in.
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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 12:10 |
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There are still ample people playing d3 regularly though. Maybe not as many as launch but enough. I found d3 to be an ok game, but sure bit was no d2 but d2 was also shite until LOD was released. I got my money worth out of d3,other people didn't.
No one is holding a gun to your head to play it though. |
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| Its not the cough that carries you off but the coffin they carry you off in. |
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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 11:53 |
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Reactor wrote on Jan 20, 2013, 10:56:
I must be in the minority for actually loving Diablo 3. :/ You're likely not- Blues is just the extreme whiner centre of the gaming universe. I agree the game isn't perfect, but even though I enjoyed 1 and 2 quite a bit, I'm getting just as much enjoyment out of playing through 3.
Yeah, clearly everyone else is the problem, not you.
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 11:41 |
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Reactor wrote on Jan 20, 2013, 10:56:
I must be in the minority for actually loving Diablo 3. :/ You're likely not- Blues is just the extreme whiner centre of the gaming universe. I agree the game isn't perfect, but even though I enjoyed 1 and 2 quite a bit, I'm getting just as much enjoyment out of playing through 3. Maybe people were just really disappointed with the game. Blues rocks, you suck.
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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 11:22 |
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| When I see these threads, I think of the many times I have retried D3 only to leave it again after a few hours play. Itemization is still horrid. All the boss fights are scaled to top tier equipment and I hate using the auction house, but I have not seen a decent drop in ages. |
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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 10:56 |
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I must be in the minority for actually loving Diablo 3. :/ You're likely not- Blues is just the extreme whiner centre of the gaming universe. I agree the game isn't perfect, but even though I enjoyed 1 and 2 quite a bit, I'm getting just as much enjoyment out of playing through 3. |
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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 09:50 |
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Cutter wrote on Jan 20, 2013, 01:40: I'll bet dollars to donuts they won't see a repeat of those sales numbers again, not even close. They've just burnt too many bridges with this. I doubt it. Too many drones. I think it will take at least another couple of "bad" games for the shine to get washed off the Blizzard name. |
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| Truth is brutal. Prepare for pain. |
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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 08:32 |
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Pretty sure having ladder play would help freshen up the game once in awhile (like it did for D2), but OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH that's impossible with the RMAH.
Better luck next time, Blizz. |
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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 06:12 |
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I think Cutter has the right of it. D3 sold so many on the strength of D2. It's easy for people to dismiss the complaints and buy the game anyway. It's not until people feel the pain themselves that their opinion changes. It's human nature.
You see this all the time. Spiderman 3 was a mess but out-earned the brilliant Spiderman 2. This is because so many people either saw and loved S2, or heard about it from their friends and were expecting the same of S3.
If and when Diablo 4 comes out, it won't sell near 6 million copies, because of the problems with D3. And it won't matter how brilliant it is. |
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| Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. |
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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 05:50 |
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| Rob pardo hired Jay? well eff that loser too. |
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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 04:39 |
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| I must be in the minority for actually loving Diablo 3. :/ |
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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 03:12 |
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| Just FYI, as far as I know, Mike Morhaime is still the CEO of Blizzard, not Rob Pardo. |
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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 02:22 |
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Clearly what he means is that they will listen to any ideas that will make the game better that doesnt interfere with its main purpose of being another WOW(money) printing press.
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Re: Rob Pardo on Jay Wilson and Diablo III |
Jan 20, 2013, 02:02 |
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MisterBenn wrote on Jan 19, 2013, 22:18: I was thinking something very similar. A lot of these design compromises were known up front (online only, real money auction house loot system etc) but millions bought it anyway. You'd also have to conclude that consumers don't listen either. Online only doesn't mean anything when Diablo 2 could easily have been the same way and it wouldn't have changed the way it played.
Having an AH doesn't automatically mean that its use will be mandatory and progression would require it. It doesn't mean drop rates on the really neat gear would be so low that you'd never see them without a trip to the AH.
Having those things aren't compromises, and I don't really get how you could call them that in the first place. The design decisions associated with them are what was the problem, not those things in and of themselves.If anything, Blizzard has earned the right to be given the benefit of the doubt over the years and the reason the outcry has been so loud is because they weren't someone where those failures would have been expected based on the information provided. You can't just look at a feature sheet and declare, "Yup, crap" like so many people here love to do with practically everything. |
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