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8. Re: Evening Metaverse Jan 19, 2013, 14:55 Dades
 
Netflix already places CDN nodes with ISPs and on popular peering hubs, it's not a congestion issue.

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7. Re: Evening Metaverse Jan 18, 2013, 16:34 Orogogus
 
Julio wrote on Jan 18, 2013, 06:47:
If congestion from Netflix was truly the issue, ISPs could offer a no Netflix allowed product offering with no caps and better speeds. But they don't.

That sounds like a real fast way to get the government mad at them. As someone else said, TW is also in the content provider business, and they have regionaly monopolies. If they stopped offering channels that compete against its brands, the DoJ would jump on them hard. It's as if Microsoft started selling a lower-cost version of Windows that doesn't run Chrome, Firefox or Opera.
 
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6. Re: Evening Metaverse Jan 18, 2013, 06:47 Julio
 
If congestion from Netflix was truly the issue, ISPs could offer a no Netflix allowed product offering with no caps and better speeds. But they don't.  
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5. Re: Evening Metaverse Jan 18, 2013, 00:14 PropheT
 
Cutter wrote on Jan 17, 2013, 22:42:
Fairness? Yeah, the average consumer probably pays $50 a month for capped data and it costs the telco/cableco's pennies per GB of data. They're marking up their product several thousand percent. How is that even remotely fair? That's legalized extortion by any measure.

It's even worse in rural areas like around where I'm at, where prices are even higher even though our communities or even state and federal government subsidize the creation of the networks these companies are billing us to use.
The comparison is way too to close to the boom of telephone line coverage last century, and only once it was nearing its end did anyone really stop and look at the wisdom of giving a monopoly the tools to bill the subscribers for building the infrastructure for them... before making the same mistake all over again with fiber.

Internet service is an absolute mess in the vast majority of the country. The quote that killed me was, "We believe it is wrong for Netflix to withhold any content formats from our subscribers and the subscribers of many other ISPs. Time Warner Cable’s network is more than capable of delivering this content to Netflix subscribers today."

...all while ISP's constantly point the finger at Netflix for bandwidth issues, causing usage cap requirements, under-delivering on marketed network speeds, and so on.
 
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4. Re: Evening Metaverse Jan 17, 2013, 22:42 Cutter
 
Fairness? Yeah, the average consumer probably pays $50 a month for capped data and it costs the telco/cableco's pennies per GB of data. They're marking up their product several thousand percent. How is that even remotely fair? That's legalized extortion by any measure.
 
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3. Re: Time Warner Cable Attacks Netflix's 'Super HD' Play. Jan 17, 2013, 22:07 killer_roach
 
jdreyer wrote on Jan 17, 2013, 21:14:
Netflix is eating TW's lunch for sure. There's got to be a conflict of interest on TW's part in that they are both infrastructure and content provider. Justice Dept, are you listening?

DoJ and FTC will typically rule that monopolies by themselves aren't necessarily illegal, but it's how they act that could make them subject to sanction.

In the case of Time Warner... they tread a fine line at times. They've probably got an open file at the FTC at this point.
 
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2. Time Warner Cable Attacks Netflix's 'Super HD' Play. Jan 17, 2013, 21:14 jdreyer
 
Netflix is eating TW's lunch for sure. There's got to be a conflict of interest on TW's part in that they are both infrastructure and content provider. Justice Dept, are you listening?  
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1. Re: Evening Metaverse Jan 17, 2013, 21:02 jdreyer
 
Yup, internet companies have caps because they are monopolies or duopolies in most markets and there's no alternative. If there were only two car companies in the world, you can bet cars would be minimum $50K each. Look at the fall off on iPhone sales that happened now that competitors have finally caught up. Apple will have to stop charging $600 per phone.  
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