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53. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 16, 2013, 05:57 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Jan 15, 2013, 13:24:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Jan 15, 2013, 12:00:
Beamer wrote on Jan 15, 2013, 10:11:
One issue often overlooked here is also the media. Each killing gets covered more and more in-depth. Each shooter becomes more and more a household name. This just leads to more shootings.

But how do you stop that?

We don't know. It's not an easy thing to change. Of course the networks won't stop covering - it's huge ratings. The government doesn't have a leg to stand on to stopping them. And people just tune in.

So there's really nothing we can control there, and that's probably the single biggest factor in why this happens - people wanting to be famous.


Ultimately we can't stop these. All we can do is lessen their frequency and their damage. Hence: smaller clips. Hence: more restrictions on getting guns.
Haven't really seen a case where smaller clips would have mattered. Even the Newtown guy was dropping them half-used. Shotguns can be reloaded on the fly, while always being ready to shoot. Speedloaders and speedstrips make reloading even revolvers very quick. Most shooters carried more than one gun too, so they always have at least a backup. This is all pretty common sense for anyone that plans to get into a firefight.

The only times I can think of where magazine size has figured into the equation was a couple of times when the guy tried to use one of those 100 round drum mags and it caused the weapon to jam, as would be expected by anyone that's familiar with the track record of those things. I think that happened with the Aurora shooter.

So, no, reducing mag size would just be an inconvenience to law-abiding owners. Anyone else doesn't care that they're against the law. They are plentiful around the world and could be had fairly cheaply if someone so desired. We'll just end up creating yet another black market trade across our borders, which, predictably, we'll be completely unsuccessful at stopping. It will, however, give the government all sorts of reasons to infringe on the liberties of citizens in the name of the War on Guns. Yeah, we need another one of those...

These shooters haven't gotten their weapons through illegal means, though. So you can say that they could have purchased larger capacity clips on the black market... but they haven't used the black market. They've purchased everything legitimately, or taken them from others who have.

This whole "acquired through illegal means" argument makes no sense because it isn't relevant. Yeah, there are criminals out there with illegal guns. Do you know who they tend to kill? Other criminals. The vast majority of illegal gun crime is gang crime. The vast majority of gang crime is gang on gang crime.

That you guys are blaming clip sizes as the end all be all is very telling. Don't talk about ways to better mental health. It's surely all about clip sizes. Rolleyes2
 
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