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22. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 13, 2013, 11:45 RollinThundr
 
PHJF wrote on Jan 13, 2013, 09:22:

People who don't play violent video games don't see a problem with banning violent video games, and people who don't own firearms don't see a problem with banning firearms... Amazing how that works, isn't it?

You just equated tools for killing people with fictional, virtual entertainment. Amazing how that works.

Story headline "Gun violence task force meets video game leaders as debate continues." Seems the government is doing the same thing eh?
edit: Seems the media is quick to jump on video games being to blame as well. [url=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHzTlkAGNIE&feature=player_embedded[/url]

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21. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 13, 2013, 11:32 RollinThundr
 
Dades wrote on Jan 13, 2013, 01:20:
RollinThundr wrote on Jan 12, 2013, 23:14:
Actually car accidents were the leading cause of death I'm pretty sure, prolly should ban cars while we're at it too, and wrap everyone in bubblewrap just to be safe.

I'm pro-gun but you're making gun owners look bad with this kind of stupidity. Seriously don't do us any favors, just be quiet, we can take care of ourselves. Here is what anyone with a brain will rebutt that sound bite with: cars aren't designed to kill people, guns are. Most car deaths are accidents. You can't compare unlike statistics anyways, that's not how it works.

As a responsible gun owner I don't have any problem with gun control laws, I'd just point out that we already have many on the books and gun control isn't where the problem lies. Enforcement, guns in popular media and availability is the problem. There is no need to punish responsible gun owners and vendors for a minority problem that needs to be dealt with in other ways.

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Look, we're heading towards being a nanny state like Australia, all the beta pussies on the left that like being told how to live by the government are leading the charge on that.

You totally contradict yourself in only one sentence, "As a responsible gun owner I don't have any problem with gun control laws, There is no need to punish responsible gun owners and vendors for a minority problem that needs to be dealt with in other ways."

So which is it Dades? Do you believe responsible gun owners shouldn't be punished for a few loose cannons, or are you fine with giving up your rights and your 2nd amendment to make those on the left feel good about themselves?
 
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20. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 13, 2013, 09:22 PHJF
 

People who don't play violent video games don't see a problem with banning violent video games, and people who don't own firearms don't see a problem with banning firearms... Amazing how that works, isn't it?

You just equated tools for killing people with fictional, virtual entertainment. Amazing how that works.
 
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19. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 13, 2013, 08:29 Orphic Resonance
 
Rossafur wrote on Jan 13, 2013, 01:24:
People who don't play violent video games don't see a problem with banning violent video games, and people who don't own firearms don't see a problem with banning firearms... Amazing how that works, isn't it?

yeh so dont ban drugs either. make all drugs legal

i wonder how many gun nuts are down with that
 
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18. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 13, 2013, 05:25 FloorPie
 
Dades wrote on Jan 13, 2013, 01:20:
RollinThundr wrote on Jan 12, 2013, 23:14:
Actually car accidents were the leading cause of death I'm pretty sure, prolly should ban cars while we're at it too, and wrap everyone in bubblewrap just to be safe.

I'm pro-gun but you're making gun owners look bad with this kind of stupidity. Seriously don't do us any favors, just be quiet, we can take care of ourselves. Here is what anyone with a brain will rebutt that sound bite with: cars aren't designed to kill people, guns are. Most car deaths are accidents. You can't compare unlike statistics anyways, that's not how it works.

As a responsible gun owner I don't have any problem with gun control laws, I'd just point out that we already have many on the books and gun control isn't where the problem lies. Enforcement, guns in popular media and availability is the problem. There is no need to punish responsible gun owners and vendors for a minority problem that needs to be dealt with in other ways.

- DADES - This is a signature of my name, enjoy!

Oh good Lord. Gun owners like you are the problem, not RollinThunder's well made point. Chicago has banned all guns for years and yet, homicide capital of the country. 532 last year. Gang bangers and criminals in general dont follow the law. Cutting off certain types of guns just guarantees outlaws/criminals will have them (and the government, who will no longer have the increased threat of armed resistance from responsible gun owners with effective so called "weapons of war").

First they came for the "assault weapons" and I said, hey I don't need that high powered junk! Then they came for the hunting rif.. er I mean evil sniper rifles! Well I don't hunt or a true hunter would use a bow up close, like the noble savages did in the yesteryears!

Then they came for the pistols (the gun type that kills the most). Hey, I don't need a portable, concealable weapon to defend myself from criminals. I live in a safe neighborhood anyway and I have a cell phone to call 911 and a pocket knife. I know KungFu, I downloaded it from the steam matrix cloud for 4.95.

Then they came for the knives, the bows, crossbows, swords and rocks. But I didn't need those for self defense, I had a cop on call. They tell me when I can get up, eat, go to work. The work camps here in Siberia are really great.

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17. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 13, 2013, 02:00 Krizzen
 
How about some statistics on deaths caused by drunk drivers? BAN ALCOHOL!

Oh wait... it was banned before? And then what? Can't be that bad.

As far as gun control -- Australia has banned semi-automatic weapons and assault rifles etc. Studies haven't shown any discernible effects of the bans.

source

and plenty, plenty of sources here:
here

In fact, banning certain firearms allowed folks to trade-in their existing firearms for non restricted versions at the governments expense. Free upgrades!

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16. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 13, 2013, 01:24 Rossafur
 
People who don't play violent video games don't see a problem with banning violent video games, and people who don't own firearms don't see a problem with banning firearms... Amazing how that works, isn't it?

Basically the story of my life with all my hobbies, ha. I play violent video games, I own firearms (and none for hunting, just for going to the range,for home/self-defense, and collecting), I used to play airsoft a lot back in high school, I used to own ferrets, and my dog is a wolf hybrid. Oh and I guess generally being a bit of a tree-hugger puts my interests at odds with quite a few too, haha
 
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15. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 13, 2013, 01:21 Creston
 
Again, it's quite surprising how lawmakers seem to feel that what the Supreme Court says really doesn't matter.

"Free Speech? First Amendment? Fuck that noise!"
- US lawmakers.

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14. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 13, 2013, 01:20 Dades
 
RollinThundr wrote on Jan 12, 2013, 23:14:
Actually car accidents were the leading cause of death I'm pretty sure, prolly should ban cars while we're at it too, and wrap everyone in bubblewrap just to be safe.

I'm pro-gun but you're making gun owners look bad with this kind of stupidity. Seriously don't do us any favors, just be quiet, we can take care of ourselves. Here is what anyone with a brain will rebutt that sound bite with: cars aren't designed to kill people, guns are. Most car deaths are accidents. You can't compare unlike statistics anyways, that's not how it works.

As a responsible gun owner I don't have any problem with gun control laws, I'd just point out that we already have many on the books and gun control isn't where the problem lies. Enforcement, guns in popular media and availability is the problem. There is no need to punish responsible gun owners and vendors for a minority problem that needs to be dealt with in other ways.

- DADES - This is a signature of my name, enjoy!
 
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13. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 13, 2013, 01:09 StreetPreacher
 
PropheT wrote on Jan 12, 2013, 23:17:
NewMaxx wrote on Jan 12, 2013, 22:50:
What was the statistic? Oh right...more people were killed last year by bludgeoning than guns in this country.

Um...bullshit.

Not for last year, but you get the idea that it isn't even a LITTLE close: FBI Expanded homicide statistics for 2007-2011

I seem to remember the quote you're talking about somewhere, though, and they didn't say "guns" they said a specific type of rifle.
Assault rifles. More people are killed each year by bludgeoning (and bicycles, interestingly enough) than are killed w/ assault rifles, which comprise a fraction of 1% of homicides.
 
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12. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 12, 2013, 23:17 PropheT
 
NewMaxx wrote on Jan 12, 2013, 22:50:
What was the statistic? Oh right...more people were killed last year by bludgeoning than guns in this country.

Um...bullshit.

Not for last year, but you get the idea that it isn't even a LITTLE close: FBI Expanded homicide statistics for 2007-2011

I seem to remember the quote you're talking about somewhere, though, and they didn't say "guns" they said a specific type of rifle.
 
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11. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 12, 2013, 23:14 RollinThundr
 
NewMaxx wrote on Jan 12, 2013, 22:50:
RollinThundr wrote on Jan 12, 2013, 22:47:
OMG TAKE ALL THE GUNZ!! and when death by knives go up. TAKE ALL THE KNIVZ!!! Or baseball bats, or metal pipes or <insert inanimate object here>

What was the statistic? Oh right...more people were killed last year by bludgeoning than guns in this country.

Actually car accidents were the leading cause of death I'm pretty sure, prolly should ban cars while we're at it too, and wrap everyone in bubblewrap just to be safe.
 
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10. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 12, 2013, 22:50 NewMaxx
 
RollinThundr wrote on Jan 12, 2013, 22:47:
OMG TAKE ALL THE GUNZ!! and when death by knives go up. TAKE ALL THE KNIVZ!!! Or baseball bats, or metal pipes or <insert inanimate object here>

What was the statistic? Oh right...more people were killed last year by bludgeoning than guns in this country.
 
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9. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 12, 2013, 22:47 RollinThundr
 
UttiniDaKilrJawa wrote on Jan 12, 2013, 22:32:
23 people die and the loudest noise out of all this is
"YOU CAN'T TAKE OUR GUNZ FROM US!!!!"

Days like this that make me sad the Mayans were wrong.

OMG TAKE ALL THE GUNZ!! and when death by knives go up. TAKE ALL THE KNIVZ!!! Or baseball bats, or metal pipes or <insert inanimate object here>

That's nice using dead kids killed by a nutbag as a platform to spew anti gun bullshit. Don't blame the person who did it though, it's the gun's fault not his.
 
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8. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 12, 2013, 22:32 UttiniDaKilrJawa
 
23 people die and the loudest noise out of all this is
"YOU CAN'T TAKE OUR GUNZ FROM US!!!!"

Days like this that make me sad the Mayans were wrong.
 
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7. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 12, 2013, 21:37 RollinThundr
 
Cutter wrote on Jan 12, 2013, 20:20:
LittleMe wrote on Jan 12, 2013, 18:27:
Protip 2: People frequently vote for socialists. Socialists are also control freaks.

You wouldn't know a socialist if you were clubbed over the head with one until your tinfoil hat came off.

Says the guy who wouldn't consider Obama a socialist Marxist.
 
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6. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 12, 2013, 21:23 Dev
 
FTA:
it was renewed in the U.S. Senate by a vote of 72-23 on Dec. 28 and signed into law by President Barack Obama two days later.

Pretty sure that means a good chunk of both sides voted for it.

More than likely, your state did too:
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5. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 12, 2013, 20:20 Cutter
 
LittleMe wrote on Jan 12, 2013, 18:27:
Protip 2: People frequently vote for socialists. Socialists are also control freaks.

You wouldn't know a socialist if you were clubbed over the head with one until your tinfoil hat came off.
 
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4. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 12, 2013, 18:58 Orphic Resonance
 
LittleMe wrote on Jan 12, 2013, 18:27:
Protip 2: People frequently vote for socialists. Socialists are also control freaks.

whereas you are just some kind of carefree and accepting free spirit?

LOL
 
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3. Re: Saturday Legal Briefs Jan 12, 2013, 18:43 Beamer
 
LittleMe wrote on Jan 12, 2013, 18:27:
Protip 2: People frequently vote for socialists. Socialists are also control freaks.

Bluesnews: where Rand Paul is called a socialist.
 
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