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Op Ed

The Atlantic - How the Video-Game Industry Already Lost Out in the Gun-Control Debate.
As it happens, that's just what happened to games (and popular media more generally) in the NRA's good guy with a gun response to the Newtown shooting. Guns aren't a factor in gun violence for the NRAŚrather, games, media, and law enforcement failures must take the blame. Once the terms of the debate are set like this (and set they very much were thanks to the over-the-top bravado in this press conference) then it's very hard to extract oneself from the debate without shifting the frame, without changing the terms of the debate.

I certainly believe that the White House would like nothing more than to see an end to mass gun murders in America's elementary schools. But the fact remains that gun violence takes place every day, all across this country, at a rate of dozens of deaths a day, and as the leading cause of death among African-American youth. But when the vice president establishes a task force on gun control and violence that includes the media industries that the NRA has once again chosen as their patsies after a particularly heinous and public example of gun violence, all it can do is shift attention away from guns.

IGN - Let's Talk About Violent Video Games.
Distinctions between games for adults and those for kids are fairly clear these days, thanks to the Entertainment Software Ratings Board (ESRB). Formed in 1994, the ESRB rates all video games as a guide for parents similar to the way movies are rated by the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA). Games are rated ranging from E for Everyone and T for Teen to M for Mature, 17+.

There is a fundamental misunderstanding that games are only for children. This needs to change for the 'violence in games' dialogue to advance.

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53. Re: Op Ed Jan 11, 2013, 14:57 Beamer
 
RollinThundr wrote on Jan 11, 2013, 14:18:
Beamer wrote on Jan 11, 2013, 13:42:
RollinThundr wrote on Jan 11, 2013, 12:31:
Look at the list of people performing these shootings, most if not all of them were/are on medications and have mental disorders. So what's more rational, making knee jerk reactions calling for gun bans, rather than look at the symptoms of why these shootings are happening is like putting a bandaid on someone who's arm just got cut off with a chainsaw.

So what's your solution? Yes, most of them have been depressed and on medication. Obviously there's an issue there. Those that weren't on medication were likely just undiagnosed.

But what's your solution? How do you turn the knowledge that some depressed and medicated people buy guns and shoot up public places into stopping this from happening? Do you take the right to buy guns from these people? Well, it's a right, so that'd be difficult, the NRA would still oppose it, and many of them took guns someone else purchased, anyway. Do you lock these people up? Well, that seems easy to abuse and the vast majority of mentally ill people never go on murder sprees. Do you spend more on treatment? That doesn't help the undiagnosed, and I thought you opposed government spending? Our medical health institutions, which were fairly rotten to begin with, were all cut decades ago to decrease government spending.

What is your solution? There are only a few levers we're capable of pulling. Making acquiring guns more difficult seems to be a lever that would have an impact and is one we can easily pull. Can we get rid of all guns? No, and that'd be stupid, anyway. But can we make it more difficult for high capacity magazines to be acquired? Hell yeah.

The NRA advocates safety training and using arms carefully without trampling over the 2nd amendment. The mother in the case of the CT school shooting should not have had guns in the house around her mentally ill son, was her mistake the NRA's fault? Is it every responsible gun owner's fault? I have no issue with more extensive background checks if it's going to keep mentally ill folks from shooting up schools and movie theaters, I don't however support outright bans that won't help a single iota. Perhaps looking at ways to improve treatment of mental health issues rather than just shoving some pills down people's throats and calling it a day wouldn't hurt either.

Banning 30 round clips isn't going to stop some nutbag from shooting people or modifying a gun to fire fully automatic, An AR-15 stock is a semi automatic, not fully auto, it's a total knee jerk reaction to make those on the left who are anti gun feel good.

When you have those on the left like Piers Morgan claiming to respect the 2nd amendment, then in the same breath referring to the Constitution as "your little book" while using dead children as a platform to spew anti gun bullshit and subsequently getting owned by anyone he debates with about the topic, it says to me alot what those in the liberal media think about the Constitution.

It's also interesting to me that the places where these incidents are taking place tend to have no carry laws already on the books and are generally majority democrat states.



Thank you for not actually giving a solution.
 
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  1. Jan 11, 09:48 Re: Op Ed InBlack
  2. Jan 11, 09:58  Re: Op Ed sauron
  8. Jan 11, 11:21   Re: Op Ed Mashiki Amiketo
  10. Jan 11, 11:40    Re: Op Ed sauron
  14. Jan 11, 12:07     Re: Op Ed eunichron
  16. Jan 11, 12:12      Re: Op Ed Beamer
  18. Jan 11, 12:16       Re: Op Ed Beamer
  25. Jan 11, 12:29        Re: Op Ed eunichron
  19. Jan 11, 12:16       Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
  21. Jan 11, 12:21        Re: Op Ed Beamer
  26. Jan 11, 12:31         Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
  35. Jan 11, 13:42          Re: Op Ed Beamer
  42. Jan 11, 14:18           Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
  48. Jan 11, 14:40            Re: Op Ed sauron
  50. Jan 11, 14:50             Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
  57. Jan 11, 15:06              Re: Op Ed sauron
  62. Jan 11, 15:18              Re: Op Ed Bodolza
>> 53. Jan 11, 14:57            Re: Op Ed Beamer
  55. Jan 11, 15:01            Re: Op Ed Verno
  56. Jan 11, 15:03             Re: Op Ed Beamer
  59. Jan 11, 15:10              Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
  61. Jan 11, 15:16               Re: Op Ed Verno
  63. Jan 11, 15:20               Re: Op Ed Beamer
  64. Jan 11, 15:25                Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
  66. Jan 11, 16:09                 Re: Op Ed Beamer
  65. Jan 11, 15:28                Re: Op Ed sauron
  83. Jan 12, 11:29                Re: Op Ed WinterMadness
  84. Jan 12, 13:00                 Re: Op Ed Beamer
  89. Jan 12, 15:36                  Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
  90. Jan 12, 16:04                   Re: Op Ed Beamer
  91. Jan 12, 16:19                    Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
  93. Jan 12, 18:45                     Re: Op Ed Beamer
  94. Jan 12, 19:45                      Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
  95. Jan 12, 20:11                       Re: Op Ed WinterMadness
  96. Jan 12, 21:24                        Re: Op Ed nin
  98. Jan 12, 23:09                       Re: Op Ed Kosumo
  99. Jan 13, 12:38                       Re: Op Ed Beamer
  100. Jan 13, 13:38                        Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
  101. Jan 13, 20:08                         Re: Op Ed Beamer
  85. Jan 12, 13:05                 Re: Op Ed nin
  74. Jan 11, 20:45            Re: Op Ed Cutter
  46. Jan 11, 14:35           Re: Op Ed Agent.X7
  52. Jan 11, 14:57            Re: Op Ed Beamer
  71. Jan 11, 19:53             Re: Op Ed Agent.X7
  72. Jan 11, 19:55              Re: Op Ed Agent.X7
  73. Jan 11, 19:58               Re: Op Ed Prez
  75. Jan 11, 20:49                Re: Op Ed Cutter
  67. Jan 11, 16:14     Re: Op Ed Mashiki Amiketo
  11. Jan 11, 11:52    Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
  12. Jan 11, 11:59     Re: Op Ed Beamer
  13. Jan 11, 12:03     Re: Op Ed sauron
  15. Jan 11, 12:08      Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
  17. Jan 11, 12:14       Re: Op Ed sauron
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  22. Jan 11, 12:22         Re: Op Ed sauron
  23. Jan 11, 12:26          Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
  24. Jan 11, 12:28           Re: Op Ed Beamer
  31. Jan 11, 13:24          Re: Op Ed Creston
  30. Jan 11, 13:01         Re: Op Ed Bhruic
  34. Jan 11, 13:41          Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
  41. Jan 11, 14:11       Re: Op Ed Chairman Kaga
  43. Jan 11, 14:20        Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
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  47. Jan 11, 14:36          Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
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  58. Jan 11, 15:09            Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
  45. Jan 11, 14:33        Re: Op Ed Agent.X7
  51. Jan 11, 14:51         Re: Op Ed Creston
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  86. Jan 12, 14:30            Re: Op Ed Agent.X7
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  77. Jan 11, 21:11           Re: Op Ed Prez
  81. Jan 11, 23:12           Re: Op Ed Creston
  87. Jan 12, 14:34           Re: Op Ed Agent.X7
  88. Jan 12, 14:41            Re: Op Ed Beamer
  49. Jan 11, 14:49        Re: Op Ed Creston
  27. Jan 11, 12:31      Re: Op Ed Cutter
  28. Jan 11, 12:39       Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
  29. Jan 11, 12:56       Re: Op Ed eunichron
  33. Jan 11, 13:28       Re: Op Ed Creston
  36. Jan 11, 13:44        Re: Op Ed sauron
  3. Jan 11, 10:45 Re: Op Ed Creston
  4. Jan 11, 10:51  Re: Op Ed InBlack
  6. Jan 11, 10:59   Re: Op Ed Creston
  7. Jan 11, 11:11    Re: Op Ed sauron
  5. Jan 11, 10:58  Re: Op Ed nin
  9. Jan 11, 11:26 Re: Op Ed eunichron
  32. Jan 11, 13:27 Re: Op Ed Verno
  38. Jan 11, 13:52  Re: Op Ed Bodolza
  40. Jan 11, 14:09   Re: Op Ed Verno
  37. Jan 11, 13:49 Re: Op Ed Creston
  39. Jan 11, 13:58  Re: Op Ed sauron
  60. Jan 11, 15:10 Re: Op Ed DangerDog
  68. Jan 11, 19:39 Re: Op Ed StingingVelvet
  70. Jan 11, 19:52  Re: Op Ed Prez
  79. Jan 11, 23:08  Re: Op Ed RollinThundr
  80. Jan 11, 23:11 Re: Op Ed Bhruic
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