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Well, my daring picks last week were as almost disastrous as could be imagined once the word "daring" entered the conversation. My only winner was the Seahawks, but that's good enough for me, since I've heard enough of RG3's perspective just how great everybody thinks he is to last a long time. We still have Ray Lewis doing that, but at least he's done more to earn the enormous self-respect that's his favorite topic of conversation.

Here's what I was able to piece together of last week's results: Verno 4-0; LiTh, Sepharo, Creston, Rigs, and Mag 2-2; and Blue, Jivaro, and Cutter 1-3.

Here goes for the divisional round: Broncos, Seahawks, Patriots, and Packers.

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28. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 12, 2013, 03:43 haki
 
Big 'Madder' addict here. If you find yourself needing 10+ yards then pick a shotgun play (such as 689 hook) and send the running back on a go route and chuck it.  
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27. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 12, 2013, 00:02 The Half Elf
 
Cutter wrote on Jan 11, 2013, 20:34:
The Half Elf wrote on Jan 11, 2013, 15:48:
And also celebrate the day, was one of 6 people hired out of 300 to work the new Caesars Horseshoe Casino in downtown Cincy! Very excited as it's a grand opening and while I've worked for Lego at Walt Disney World this is gonna be 24/7 fun/crazy.

Sweet, man, gratz! What are you going to be doing for them?

I'm going to be a Bar Porter/Backup Bartender. Fast pace, low stress, decent money and full time.
Money is nice but I'm not a person who is 'money greedy' job wise. My bills will be covered and I have extra fun money without the stress of management.
 
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26. Hmmph! Jan 11, 2013, 20:43 Ant
 
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25. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2013, 20:34 Cutter
 
The Half Elf wrote on Jan 11, 2013, 15:48:
And also celebrate the day, was one of 6 people hired out of 300 to work the new Caesars Horseshoe Casino in downtown Cincy! Very excited as it's a grand opening and while I've worked for Lego at Walt Disney World this is gonna be 24/7 fun/crazy.

Sweet, man, gratz! What are you going to be doing for them?
 
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24. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2013, 20:27 Jivaro
 
@Half-Elf: I am not a manly man, but I am a Madden addict and I have two tips. (Both of them are assuming you are playing on a skill level lower then All-Madden)

1) Play a zone defense most of the time. Just pick the play and let it go, don't try to control anyone. Get more "hands-on" after you get a feel for the game. If you do go man 2 man on defense, blitz and control a linemen or linebacker. Particularly on lower quality quarterbacks with a lack of footspeed.

2) On offense, play to your team strengths, just like in real life. With that in mind, it might be a good idea to start with a team that has a solid running game. For example, if you play with Houston you have two great running backs. Run them on first down. If it is 2nd and long, consider running again. If its 2nd and short, try a pass. This will usually put you in 3rd and short situations without having to force long passes and keep your offensive drives going. Since your quarterback and primary receivers are all quality, it will make the learning process easier. As time goes by and you get used to the speed of the game passing will become easier.
 
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23. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2013, 20:10 WarPig
 
As someone who lives and dies with the Seahawks I have to say that I don't have a great feeling about this week's game. I guess I'm just not used to watching them win on the east coast, especially when the game starts at 10:00am PST. As a matter of fact, the only west coast team in history who won two straight games on the east coast in the playoff were the '89 LA Rams. What I'm hoping for is that the Falcons put way too much pressure on themselves, which could happen. However it turns out I have to admit that watching Russel Wilson this year has been the best. Not that I think he's the best QB in the league but I wouldn't trade him for anybody.

Also, I see that most everyone is picking the Broncos - and for good reason. But let me throw this out there; Peyton Manning is 0-3 in cold weather playoff games (which, of course were on the road) but the startling part is this... 1 TD vs. 7 INT's... that's pretty bad! If I were forced to put money on the game I'd pick the Bronco's too, but I won't be as shocked by a Ravens win as a lot of people will be.

 
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22. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2013, 16:14 Scottish Martial Arts
 
1) That's not fully accurate. Tolkien states in the forward to the revised edition of the Lord of the Rings that his chief interest in composing The Silmarillion was "his own satisfaction" but that nevertheless he very much hoped to have it published. There was just never any publisher interest to do so in his lifetime, although he did spend the last four years of his life reworking The Silmariilion in preparation for publication after it having sat on the shelf since the thirties. When he died, his son finished that work so it could at last be published.

2) I don't see it that way. The Tolkien family was upper class to begin with. It's not as if Tolkien had a hard scrabble youth and made his fortune writing best selling fantasy novels, and now his son wants to ensure that the money keeps flowing so he can stay rich without having to work at it. Rather, I think he is motivated by a deep love of his father and a desire to share his father's work with any who will love it as he does.

As for sueing the studio, what is wrong about wanting the terms of a contract honored? Particularly, when someone is profiting off of, what you see as, a bastardization of your father's legacy? If you can't stop it from happening you might as well see to it that they pay you what they contractually owe you.

3) As for the films themselves, while they were loyal to the plot of the books, they were presented with all the subtlety of Michael Bay. Consider how the flight from the Shire was depicted: rather than creating an air of menace playing on what you don't know, Jackson shows you exactly why Gandalf never showed up to help Frodo, he let's you know what the black riders are, and rather than create a sense of being hunted, i.e. looking back to the last ridge and momentarily seeing a dark figure, he instead treats it as a cheap horror movie complete with lightening and frantic camera work. For a tale that was in many ways a reaction against modernity and industrialism, two things which living through World War I caused Tolkien to view with suspicion if not outright distaste, it seems remarkably in poor taste to make the movie that was made. Likewise, I think Jackson, while clearly having spent many skill points on Tolkien Lore, did not have a very firm grasp of the themes that Tolkien was exploring. Since we're on the subject of WWI, consider how the Hobbits were depicted: Frodo, Pippin, and Merry were, in the books, country gentlemen cast into terror and war, much as Tolkien and his friends were in 1914. Notably, for Tolkien, by 1918, all but one of his friends was dead. Likewise, Sam was the English commoner, now soldier, loyally following his officer into machine gun fire at the Somme, a battle in which Tolkien led such men. Jackson, instead of exploring class sensibilities and how members of each class responded to the horrors of the battlefield, turns Pippin and Merry into comic relief and gives the Sam/Frodo relationship homosexual overtones. At any rate, I don't have any trouble seeing how Christopher would dislike the films.
 
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21. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2013, 16:09 Creston
 
The Half Elf wrote on Jan 11, 2013, 15:48:
Will all you manly men talking about football all the time I finally picked up Madder 13 for the 360. Any tips and tricks (due to lack of any sort of tutorial) would be appreciated.

And also celebrate the day, was one of 6 people hired out of 300 to work the new Caesars Horseshoe Casino in downtown Cincy! Very excited as it's a grand opening and while I've worked for Lego at Walt Disney World this is gonna be 24/7 fun/crazy.

Congrats man!

Creston
 
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20. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2013, 16:06 Beamer
 
The Half Elf wrote on Jan 11, 2013, 15:48:
And also celebrate the day, was one of 6 people hired out of 300 to work the new Caesars Horseshoe Casino in downtown Cincy! Very excited as it's a grand opening and while I've worked for Lego at Walt Disney World this is gonna be 24/7 fun/crazy.

Interesting. I'm not a casino guy, but for a variety of reasons will be at the Horseshoe on opening night.

Enjoy it, and see you there!
 
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19. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2013, 15:51 nin
 
And also celebrate the day, was one of 6 people hired out of 300 to work the new Caesars Horseshoe Casino in downtown Cincy! Very excited as it's a grand opening and while I've worked for Lego at Walt Disney World this is gonna be 24/7 fun/crazy.


Congrats on the job!

 
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18. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2013, 15:48 The Half Elf
 
Will all you manly men talking about football all the time I finally picked up Madder 13 for the 360. Any tips and tricks (due to lack of any sort of tutorial) would be appreciated.

And also celebrate the day, was one of 6 people hired out of 300 to work the new Caesars Horseshoe Casino in downtown Cincy! Very excited as it's a grand opening and while I've worked for Lego at Walt Disney World this is gonna be 24/7 fun/crazy.
 
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17. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2013, 13:43 Creston
 
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Jan 11, 2013, 12:44:
The only reason LotR is still so successful is because of the movies and the ensuing games/toys/etc. Try to get any teenager to read the books nowadays and they'll be asleep by page 10.

I got the impression that he would gladly forgo the money and new found popularity of his father's writings if it meant that Middle-Earth hadn't been turned into "an action film for teenagers" as he put it in the interview. Tolkien was a philologist (of Old English, no less) -- that's not a field you go into because you have a great love of or desire for money and fame. From what I can gather, The Silmarillion, and its associated stories, was his chief interest and passion, but no one was willing to publish something that demands a background in the epic poetry of dead Classical and Medieval languages in order to be fully appreciated and understood. Hence, the Hobbit, and subsequently, and due to continued publisher resistance to The Silmarillion, The Lord of the Rings. One of Tolkien's first publications was a volume of poetry called Songs for the Philologists -- the title should make clear whom he envisioned as the audience for his fictional work. As such, I think it's a mistake to think that Tolkien's aim was the creation of a commercial product to generate a profit and everflowing revenue stream for himself and his heirs. Rather, it was the creation of a prose epic that would appeal to those who know Homer and Beowulf well (and hopefully in Greek and Old English) and that would give to England a legendary and mythical alternate history, in the style of the Norse and Ancient Greeks, that would be distinctly English. With that in mind, I can see why Christopher Tolkien is a bit dismayed that Middle-Earth is now chiefly associated with some entertaining, but loud, bombastic, and utterly unsubtle films from a director of great visual imagination but little story telling talent.

There are three problems I have with this entire ongoing saga.

1) JRR himself never meant for all his extended works to be made known to the public at large, much LESS publicized to any extent. It's been Chris Tolkien who has done that. For him to say on one hand "Oh noes, all this literary thrashing of mine father's worketh!" while on the other hand he's publishing something called "The children of Hurin" (from his father's work), that 12 volume "middle earth" series, and making up stuff to put into the Silmarillion so that it became acceptable to a publisher, seems like a load of double speak to me.

2) Sure, it's easy for Chris to sit there and go "Oh, I'd give up all the moneys if only it meant peace for my father's work!" because he's already sitting there, cushy and comfy in the money made from his father's work, and because his children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren will be reasonably cushy and comfy from said money. Especially after the fuckload of books they sold once the movies came out.

If said money wasn't there, how staunch a champion would he be in this regard? Because my guess is, not really all that staunch at all. The fact that he published the Silmarillion, and later other works from his father's notes, seems to indicate that that's really so. (or, for that matter, that he sued the movie company for profits.)

3) I fully understand his problems with the Hobbit movie. It's bullshit. A lot of that stuff was never in the book, and it is solely being added so Jackson can have his three movies of three hours each.

But wtf is his problem with the LOTR movies? Other than a few chronological differences (done for the sake of visual story-telling, as per the appendices of the movies), and a lot more focus on Arwen and Aragorn (which I will agree is a typical Hollywood move), the LOTR movies were a marvelous visual retelling of the book. He's making it out to be like the characters went from Hobbiton straight to Helm's Deep, straight to Minas Tirith, straight to Mordor.

Which is funny, because I could have sworn there's around 15 minutes in the Two towers in which Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas do nothing but just run over some fucking hills in a wide-angle chopper shot. And there's 30 minutes of Bilbo's introduction to the shire and his party. etc etc etc.

The movies stayed very true to the books, imo. Far better than previous graphical iterations of it, with maybe the exception of the Don Bluth animated version.

(And no, leaving out Tom Bombadil doesn't count. The whole Tom Bombadil thing is retarded from a story-telling perspective, and I have no idea how Tolkien's editor didn't tell him to cut it.)

So yeah, I'm still going to go with sour grapes.

Creston
 
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16. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2013, 13:14 sauron
 
Mind if I jump in this week? I'll take the Broncos, 49ers, Atlanta and the Patriots.

And congrats to Sapp and Strahan in particular - loved watching both of those guys play football.
 
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15. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2013, 12:46 Cutter
 
Oh, we made the right picks, Jiv. The teams just didn't do what they were supposed to.

ANYWAY...Denver, Green Bay, Atlanta, New England.
 
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14. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2013, 12:44 Scottish Martial Arts
 
The only reason LotR is still so successful is because of the movies and the ensuing games/toys/etc. Try to get any teenager to read the books nowadays and they'll be asleep by page 10.

I got the impression that he would gladly forgo the money and new found popularity of his father's writings if it meant that Middle-Earth hadn't been turned into "an action film for teenagers" as he put it in the interview. Tolkien was a philologist (of Old English, no less) -- that's not a field you go into because you have a great love of or desire for money and fame. From what I can gather, The Silmarillion, and its associated stories, was his chief interest and passion, but no one was willing to publish something that demands a background in the epic poetry of dead Classical and Medieval languages in order to be fully appreciated and understood. Hence, the Hobbit, and subsequently, and due to continued publisher resistance to The Silmarillion, The Lord of the Rings. One of Tolkien's first publications was a volume of poetry called Songs for the Philologists -- the title should make clear whom he envisioned as the audience for his fictional work. As such, I think it's a mistake to think that Tolkien's aim was the creation of a commercial product to generate a profit and everflowing revenue stream for himself and his heirs. Rather, it was the creation of a prose epic that would appeal to those who know Homer and Beowulf well (and hopefully in Greek and Old English) and that would give to England a legendary and mythical alternate history, in the style of the Norse and Ancient Greeks, that would be distinctly English. With that in mind, I can see why Christopher Tolkien is a bit dismayed that Middle-Earth is now chiefly associated with some entertaining, but loud, bombastic, and utterly unsubtle films from a director of great visual imagination but little story telling talent.
 
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13. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2013, 12:02 mag
 
Broncos, Packers, Seahawks, Pats.  
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12. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2013, 11:25 Jivaro
 
1-3, I told you I sucked at playoff picks... :/

New picks:
Broncos, Seahawks, Patriots, 49ers.

 
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11. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2013, 11:20 Ratty
 
And at the opposite end of the literary legacy spectrum is Frank Herbert's estate. His son Brian is a huge money-grubbing asshole who churns out the absolute worst pieces of shit books with a juvenile writing style not even close to the originals (or "McDune crap" as critics have labelled it). I read the first couple of sequels and couldn't even finish the second one. He claims to be working from extensive notes his father left just for him to use in writing new books - notes which nobody has ever seen. Zero respect for any kind of legacy.

Then there's Brandon Sanderson finishing up Jordan's Wheel of Time. He's doing a great job actually. His writing is indistinguishable from Jordan's and his books have been superior to several of the later ones Jordan phoned in (not that Jordan was any kind of Tolkien or Herbert, but I think his work is deserving of respect). And in that case we know Jordan worked with him and really did leave extensive notes which the author clearly respects.
 
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10. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2013, 11:09 xXBatmanXx
 
Congrats to the HoF nominations. Some are long overdue, some belong, and some are WTF. HUGE NOD to the LONG OVERDUE addition of CC.

Larry Allen, Jerome Bettis, Tim Brown, Cris Carter, Curley Culp, Edward DeBartolo Jr., Kevin Greene, Charles Haley, Art Modell, Jonathan Ogden, Bill Parcells, Andre Reed, Dave Robinson, Warren Sapp, Will Shields, Michael Strahan and Aeneas Williams.
 
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9. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 11, 2013, 11:04 Creston
 
Also, Son of J.R.R. Tolkien: How about you get yourself a nice tall glass of shut the fuck up?

Awww, they're devastating your father's vision with all these videogames and movies? Awwww.

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE SOLD THE FUCKING RIGHTS AWAY THEN. (Edit, I actually forgot that JRR himself did that, to fund his children's coke habit insure they'd be able to pay the ludicrous inheritance taxes. I could have sworn remembering that it was Chris who had sold the rights for the movies... Hmmm...)

In any case, it's still fucking sour grapes. The only reason LotR is still so successful is because of the movies and the ensuing games/toys/etc. Try to get any teenager to read the books nowadays and they'll be asleep by page 10.

Creston

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