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17. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 7, 2013, 07:24 Dades
 
Just use the Windows 8 drivers, it will work.

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16. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 7, 2013, 04:25 shihonage
 
I recently tried to install Windows 7 on a new HP laptop which came preinstalled with the nightmare that is Windows 8.

It is amazing, the number of walls I ran into (through BIOS, which made it a nightmare to boot from CD, through their replacement of MBR which hung Windows 7 install), the final one possibly being the worst. Just as I actually managed to install Windows 7, I discovered that HP provides no Windows 7 drivers for this laptop.

No USB/chipset driver, no wireless driver, nothing. I am sure that with scrupulous work and editing of .INF files, it may be possible to force those drivers to actually work on Win7, but the laptop wasn't mine and the person decided to simply return it.

Moral of the story: don't buy Windows 8 laptops with hopes of installing a real OS. Either find a Windows 7 laptop or bust.
 
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15. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 7, 2013, 04:08 Ant
 
EricFate wrote on Jan 7, 2013, 03:39:
Creston wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 01:27:
Microsoft gently reminds world that cheap Windows 8 ends soon.

World shrugs and continues to ignore Windows 8, and really any Microsoft product in general.

Balmer continues to stay employed.

Creston

I don't want it at a discount, I wouldn't want it for free, and I wouldn't even install it on one of my machines if they gave me a rebate check which exceeded the original purchase price.
What if they paid you?
 
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14. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 7, 2013, 03:39 EricFate
 
Creston wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 01:27:
Microsoft gently reminds world that cheap Windows 8 ends soon.

World shrugs and continues to ignore Windows 8, and really any Microsoft product in general.

Balmer continues to stay employed.

Creston

I don't want it at a discount, I wouldn't want it for free, and I wouldn't even install it on one of my machines if they gave me a rebate check which exceeded the original purchase price.
 
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13. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 6, 2013, 22:36 Ant
 
Creston wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 22:28:
Ant wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 13:10:
peteham wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 08:46:
I'd consider getting this Windows 8 upgrade for my laptop at this price (mainly for the slightly improved battery life), if it wasn't for the upgrade reportedly requiring the presence of an existing Win7 installation every time you want to do a full system wipe/reinstall. Granted, I'm not doing those nearly as often these days compared to the XP-or-earlier era, but even so. Having to FIRST install Win7 and then running the upgrade installer every single time, is too much hassle. So I'll just stick with 7.
Yep, that's upgrade. You need retail to do clean installs. OEM doesn't work well if you want to reuse it on new hardwares since it is only for installation for the same PC. DRM FTL.

The fucking irritating thing is that they used to allow you to just put in a CD of a previous valid OS, and then they would install the new OS clean, even if it was an upgrade. So if you had an XP upgrade CD, it would ask for "proof" of an existing OS, you'd put in a 98 or win2K CD, and it would go.

That apparently stopped right around Vista. When I installed my Win7 upgrade, I actually first had to install Windows XP. It sits there in a dual boot, never used, taking up a few gigs of space.

So even if I wanted to upgrade to 8, I'd first have to install XP, then upgrade to 7, then upgrade to 8? Fuck that noise, MS. Way to make your shit WORSE to use over the years.

Creston
Yep, MS is getting REALLY strict now. DRM, WGA, installation scenarios, etc. BAH!
 
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12. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 6, 2013, 22:28 Creston
 
Ant wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 13:10:
peteham wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 08:46:
I'd consider getting this Windows 8 upgrade for my laptop at this price (mainly for the slightly improved battery life), if it wasn't for the upgrade reportedly requiring the presence of an existing Win7 installation every time you want to do a full system wipe/reinstall. Granted, I'm not doing those nearly as often these days compared to the XP-or-earlier era, but even so. Having to FIRST install Win7 and then running the upgrade installer every single time, is too much hassle. So I'll just stick with 7.
Yep, that's upgrade. You need retail to do clean installs. OEM doesn't work well if you want to reuse it on new hardwares since it is only for installation for the same PC. DRM FTL.

The fucking irritating thing is that they used to allow you to just put in a CD of a previous valid OS, and then they would install the new OS clean, even if it was an upgrade. So if you had an XP upgrade CD, it would ask for "proof" of an existing OS, you'd put in a 98 or win2K CD, and it would go.

That apparently stopped right around Vista. When I installed my Win7 upgrade, I actually first had to install Windows XP. It sits there in a dual boot, never used, taking up a few gigs of space.

So even if I wanted to upgrade to 8, I'd first have to install XP, then upgrade to 7, then upgrade to 8? Fuck that noise, MS. Way to make your shit WORSE to use over the years.

Creston
 
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11. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 6, 2013, 13:10 Ant
 
peteham wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 08:46:
I'd consider getting this Windows 8 upgrade for my laptop at this price (mainly for the slightly improved battery life), if it wasn't for the upgrade reportedly requiring the presence of an existing Win7 installation every time you want to do a full system wipe/reinstall. Granted, I'm not doing those nearly as often these days compared to the XP-or-earlier era, but even so. Having to FIRST install Win7 and then running the upgrade installer every single time, is too much hassle. So I'll just stick with 7.
Yep, that's upgrade. You need retail to do clean installs. OEM doesn't work well if you want to reuse it on new hardwares since it is only for installation for the same PC. DRM FTL.
 
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10. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 6, 2013, 11:26 Dades
 
FloodAnxiety wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 01:52:
Steam Hardware Survey for December 2012 indicates usage of Windows 8 by Steam Users is already at 6.93% and rising much faster than any other OS. For Linux, only 1.51% of Steam Users (and that's graciously including "Other" in with Ubuntu.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

The Linux client was in beta and that's a huge gain for a small period of time compared to something like Windows.

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9. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 6, 2013, 08:46 peteham
 
I'd consider getting this Windows 8 upgrade for my laptop at this price (mainly for the slightly improved battery life), if it wasn't for the upgrade reportedly requiring the presence of an existing Win7 installation every time you want to do a full system wipe/reinstall. Granted, I'm not doing those nearly as often these days compared to the XP-or-earlier era, but even so. Having to FIRST install Win7 and then running the upgrade installer every single time, is too much hassle. So I'll just stick with 7.  
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8. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 6, 2013, 05:37 Julio
 
FloodAnxiety wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 01:52:
Steam Hardware Survey for December 2012 indicates usage of Windows 8 by Steam Users is already at 6.93% and rising much faster than any other OS. For Linux, only 1.51% of Steam Users (and that's graciously including "Other" in with Ubuntu.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

So a super heavily discounted OS can only get 7% of the market. That's pretty bad, Microsoft will have to stop support for XP and 7 by mid year to help out.
 
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7. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 6, 2013, 02:03 nin
 
FloodAnxiety wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 01:52:
Steam Hardware Survey for December 2012 indicates usage of Windows 8 by Steam Users is already at 6.93% and rising much faster than any other OS. For Linux, only 1.51% of Steam Users (and that's graciously including "Other" in with Ubuntu.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey


Yep, up 2%! Watch your ass, 7! In 24 months or so your days are numbered!

Oh wait, we'll be hearing about 9 by then...


 
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6. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 6, 2013, 01:52 FloodAnxiety
 
Steam Hardware Survey for December 2012 indicates usage of Windows 8 by Steam Users is already at 6.93% and rising much faster than any other OS. For Linux, only 1.51% of Steam Users (and that's graciously including "Other" in with Ubuntu.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
 
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5. W8 Jan 6, 2013, 01:36 Ant
 
Meh. I still wouldn't want it even if it was free. If I got paid to use it, then yeah sure.  
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4. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 6, 2013, 01:27 Creston
 
Microsoft gently reminds world that cheap Windows 8 ends soon.

World shrugs and continues to ignore Windows 8, and really any Microsoft product in general.

Balmer continues to stay employed.

Creston
 
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3. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 6, 2013, 00:22 eRe4s3r
 
Yeah but how many (good) new games are going to use or support Steam Linux? I just don't see it taking off this year.. but hey, they are getting close given how much MS seems to be willing to mess Windows gaming up.  
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2. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 5, 2013, 23:54 Ant
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Jan 5, 2013, 22:21:
Looks like this year won't be the year of the linux desktop for gaming either.. haha
Even with Steam with closed binary drivers?
 
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1. Re: Saturday Tech Bits Jan 5, 2013, 22:21 eRe4s3r
 
Looks like this year won't be the year of the linux desktop for gaming either.. haha  
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